Detoxinating the liver?

spikefoot

Your friend is making stuff up.

If you tried to do this I bet your eating routine would become very messed up.

How about just trying to drink insane amounts of water for 2 weeks along with reasonably healthy food?

MyChocolateDiet

I don't know what "detoxinating" is, but it does not sound like fun.

that's right. you show those toxins.

Jonesie1984

Seems legit.

KANGOOJUMPS

whiskey works.

sullus

Detox.. totally unnecessary. The liver itself is our bodies detox system.

Generally when people say "detox the liver" they actually mean give the liver a break by not giving it so much crap to process.

I think I"m going to detox my lungs.. they seem to be tired of breathing for me.. they have been doing it for 28 years now.. oh wait, it's their JOB!!! Livers don't need days off anymore than a heart or a lung. This is totally ridiculous.

If you want to ease the workload of the liver eat less crap. You don't need to "fast"

Conspiracy rants aside .. ^this. As a former really heavy drinker (in both of the ways you could interpret that), combined with blood iron that was waaaaay too high, my liver was a complete mess. Fatty, Swolen, painfully sensitive .. My Primary Care Doctor, Endocrinologist, and Dean Wormer were pretty much in agreement: Fat, Drunk, and Stupid is no way to go through life.

almost 80 lbs, regular exercise, and irregular drinking, and the labs I just got back say I'm normal.

Well that my liver is doing its thing "within normal tolerances".

lacurandera1

Jonesie1984

Detox.. totally unnecessary. The liver itself is our bodies detox system.

Generally when people say "detox the liver" they actually mean give the liver a break by not giving it so much crap to process.

I think I"m going to detox my lungs.. they seem to be tired of breathing for me.. they have been doing it for 28 years now.. oh wait, it's their JOB!!! Livers don't need days off anymore than a heart or a lung. This is totally ridiculous.

If you want to ease the workload of the liver eat less crap. You don't need to "fast"

Conspiracy rants aside .. ^this. As a former really heavy drinker (in both of the ways you could interpret that), combined with blood iron that was waaaaay too high, my liver was a complete mess. Fatty, Swolen, painfully sensitive .. My Primary Care Doctor, Endocrinologist, and Dean Wormer were pretty much in agreement: Fat, Drunk, and Stupid is no way to go through life.

almost 80 lbs, regular exercise, and irregular drinking, and the labs I just got back say I'm normal.

Well that my liver is doing its thing "within normal tolerances".

Liver was fatty because you weighed more.. losing 10 lbs dramatically reduced the amount of fat encapsulating the liver.. kinda know it.. tell my patients it all the time. It has nothing to do with cleansing but losing weight and the body choosing to metabolize it off the liver first.. that's physiology for ya.

http://www.liverdoctor.com/liver/fatty-liver

they actually discourage people from "fad" diets.. recommendation.. gradual reduction of body weight ..

Now liver abuse by excessive drinking (of alcohol) can be reduced by drinking less or no alcohol but it has nothing to do with fasting 1-2 days a week.. what you did was actively put less harmful toxins through the bodies system not detox it.

MyChocolateDiet

Detoxing the liver is like washing the soap.

thread winner.



ETA: I just suddenly got the strange urge to go wash all my sink soaps. Wha?:noway: :huh:

NYCNika

MY DH had bad cholesterol. He was skinny and he was not eating badly. So it was more likely to be genetic.

And still, he managed to bring it down by over 100 points!

How? By tracking his saturated fat (no more than 12 grams per day EVERY day) and running hard for minimum half hour 3-4 times a week (EVERY week) for years.

It takes hard work to bring down cholesterol when you are already skinny and not eat badly. But it can still be done.

BamsieEkhaya

I might totally be out of my mind here to even suggest such changes but....

cut *kitten*/junk && foods HIGH in cholesterol out of your diet (make it a lifestyle NOT fad diet)

drink PLENTY of water and cut out any alcohol (just saying)

Eat food LOW in cholesterol and/or that could help reduce your cholesterol

AND work out !!

(obvs not a genius but hey-ho biology student alert!)

jonnythan

MY DH had bad cholesterol. He was skinny and he was not eating badly. So it was more likely to be genetic.

And still, he managed to bring it down by over 100 points!

How? By tracking his saturated fat (no more than 12 grams per day EVERY day) and running hard for minimum half hour 3-4 times a week (EVERY week) for years.

It takes hard work to bring down cholesterol when you are already skinny and not eat badly. But it can still be done.

I bolded the part that actually brought his cholesterol down, btw. Probably had zero to do with his saturated fat intake and everything to do with lack of exercise.

Sarauk2sf

I might totally be out of my mind here to even suggest such changes but....

cut *kitten*/junk && foods HIGH in cholesterol out of your diet (make it a lifestyle NOT fad diet)

drink PLENTY of water and cut out any alcohol (just saying)

Eat food LOW in cholesterol and/or that could help reduce your cholesterol

AND work out !!

(obvs not a genius but hey-ho biology student alert!)

Not really.

TR0berts

I might totally be out of my mind here to even suggest such changes but....

cut *kitten*/junk && foods HIGH in cholesterol out of your diet (make it a lifestyle NOT fad diet)

drink PLENTY of water and cut out any alcohol (just saying)

Eat food LOW in cholesterol and/or that could help reduce your cholesterol

AND work out !!

(obvs not a genius but hey-ho biology student alert!)

Dietary cholesterol != blood cholesterol.

jonnythan

What's a DH, anyway? Do women have designated hitters now?

sullus

Detox.. totally unnecessary. The liver itself is our bodies detox system.

Generally when people say "detox the liver" they actually mean give the liver a break by not giving it so much crap to process.

I think I"m going to detox my lungs.. they seem to be tired of breathing for me.. they have been doing it for 28 years now.. oh wait, it's their JOB!!! Livers don't need days off anymore than a heart or a lung. This is totally ridiculous.

If you want to ease the workload of the liver eat less crap. You don't need to "fast"

Conspiracy rants aside .. ^this. As a former really heavy drinker (in both of the ways you could interpret that), combined with blood iron that was waaaaay too high, my liver was a complete mess. Fatty, Swolen, painfully sensitive .. My Primary Care Doctor, Endocrinologist, and Dean Wormer were pretty much in agreement: Fat, Drunk, and Stupid is no way to go through life.

almost 80 lbs, regular exercise, and irregular drinking, and the labs I just got back say I'm normal.

Well that my liver is doing its thing "within normal tolerances".

Liver was fatty because you weighed more.. losing 10 lbs dramatically reduced the amount of fat encapsulating the liver.. kinda know it.. tell my patients it all the time. It has nothing to do with cleansing but losing weight and the body choosing to metabolize it off the liver first.. that's physiology for ya.

http://www.liverdoctor.com/liver/fatty-liver

they actually discourage people from "fad" diets.. recommendation.. gradual reduction of body weight ..

Now liver abuse by excessive drinking (of alcohol) can be reduced by drinking less or no alcohol but it has nothing to do with fasting 1-2 days a week.. what you did was actively put less harmful toxins through the bodies system not detox it.

The Iron was a serious contributor to the liver tests being off as well. And the drinking. And the fat.

God I miss fried clams.

NYCNika

MY DH had bad cholesterol. He was skinny and he was not eating badly. So it was more likely to be genetic.

And still, he managed to bring it down by over 100 points!

How? By tracking his saturated fat (no more than 12 grams per day EVERY day) and running hard for minimum half hour 3-4 times a week (EVERY week) for years.

It takes hard work to bring down cholesterol when you are already skinny and not eat badly. But it can still be done.

I bolded the part that actually brought his cholesterol down, btw. Probably had zero to do with his saturated fat intake and everything to do with lack of exercise.

He was not inactive before and has been running always, just not as religiously. And btw, they still don't know if this is more influenced by diet or by exercise. DH reads all the scientific articles on the subject and there is no firm conclusion.

jonnythan

Detox.. totally unnecessary. The liver itself is our bodies detox system.

Generally when people say "detox the liver" they actually mean give the liver a break by not giving it so much crap to process.

I think I"m going to detox my lungs.. they seem to be tired of breathing for me.. they have been doing it for 28 years now.. oh wait, it's their JOB!!! Livers don't need days off anymore than a heart or a lung. This is totally ridiculous.

If you want to ease the workload of the liver eat less crap. You don't need to "fast"

Conspiracy rants aside .. ^this. As a former really heavy drinker (in both of the ways you could interpret that), combined with blood iron that was waaaaay too high, my liver was a complete mess. Fatty, Swolen, painfully sensitive .. My Primary Care Doctor, Endocrinologist, and Dean Wormer were pretty much in agreement: Fat, Drunk, and Stupid is no way to go through life.

almost 80 lbs, regular exercise, and irregular drinking, and the labs I just got back say I'm normal.

Well that my liver is doing its thing "within normal tolerances".

Liver was fatty because you weighed more.. losing 10 lbs dramatically reduced the amount of fat encapsulating the liver.. kinda know it.. tell my patients it all the time. It has nothing to do with cleansing but losing weight and the body choosing to metabolize it off the liver first.. that's physiology for ya.

http://www.liverdoctor.com/liver/fatty-liver

they actually discourage people from "fad" diets.. recommendation.. gradual reduction of body weight ..

Now liver abuse by excessive drinking (of alcohol) can be reduced by drinking less or no alcohol but it has nothing to do with fasting 1-2 days a week.. what you did was actively put less harmful toxins through the bodies system not detox it.

The Iron was a serious contributor to the liver tests being off as well. And the drinking. And the fat.

God I miss fried clams.

You should eat some.

jonnythan

MY DH had bad cholesterol. He was skinny and he was not eating badly. So it was more likely to be genetic.

And still, he managed to bring it down by over 100 points!

How? By tracking his saturated fat (no more than 12 grams per day EVERY day) and running hard for minimum half hour 3-4 times a week (EVERY week) for years.

It takes hard work to bring down cholesterol when you are already skinny and not eat badly. But it can still be done.

I bolded the part that actually brought his cholesterol down, btw. Probably had zero to do with his saturated fat intake and everything to do with lack of exercise.

He was not inactive before and has been running always, just not as religiously. And btw, they still don't know if this is more influenced by diet or by exercise. DH reads all the scientific articles on the subject and there is no firm conclusion.

The world of medicine moves slowly, especially when moving away from former bedrock principles.

However, it's becoming more and more clear that dietary fat and cholesterol have very little impact on serum cholesterol levels, especially as compared to lifestyle.

sullus

God I miss fried clams.

You should eat some.

The clams are an Iron thing, not a fat thing. Not an area I prefer to push.

Jonesie1984

Detox.. totally unnecessary. The liver itself is our bodies detox system.

Generally when people say "detox the liver" they actually mean give the liver a break by not giving it so much crap to process.

I think I"m going to detox my lungs.. they seem to be tired of breathing for me.. they have been doing it for 28 years now.. oh wait, it's their JOB!!! Livers don't need days off anymore than a heart or a lung. This is totally ridiculous.

If you want to ease the workload of the liver eat less crap. You don't need to "fast"

Conspiracy rants aside .. ^this. As a former really heavy drinker (in both of the ways you could interpret that), combined with blood iron that was waaaaay too high, my liver was a complete mess. Fatty, Swolen, painfully sensitive .. My Primary Care Doctor, Endocrinologist, and Dean Wormer were pretty much in agreement: Fat, Drunk, and Stupid is no way to go through life.

almost 80 lbs, regular exercise, and irregular drinking, and the labs I just got back say I'm normal.

Well that my liver is doing its thing "within normal tolerances".

Liver was fatty because you weighed more.. losing 10 lbs dramatically reduced the amount of fat encapsulating the liver.. kinda know it.. tell my patients it all the time. It has nothing to do with cleansing but losing weight and the body choosing to metabolize it off the liver first.. that's physiology for ya.

http://www.liverdoctor.com/liver/fatty-liver

they actually discourage people from "fad" diets.. recommendation.. gradual reduction of body weight ..

Now liver abuse by excessive drinking (of alcohol) can be reduced by drinking less or no alcohol but it has nothing to do with fasting 1-2 days a week.. what you did was actively put less harmful toxins through the bodies system not detox it.

The Iron was a serious contributor to the liver tests being off as well. And the drinking. And the fat.

God I miss fried clams.

And you are missing out.. but it sounds like you made healthy changes and they resulted in better health. Doesn't sound like a cleanse though which is very reasonable.


** just saw the part about the iron.. now that you're normal you could probably go back to eating them in moderation since you have reduced the other factors.. of course, something to chat with a doc about but every now in then prob wont kill ya.