Why high dietary fat %? Are we trying to kill each other?

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  • michellekicks
    michellekicks Posts: 3,624 Member
    i eat 55% fat.

    dietary fat has no impact on body fat unless you're eating at a caloric surplus. fat is also great for long term energy whereas carbs are better for short term energy. I like long term energy. :)

    55% fat, 25% carbs 20% protein

    You are trying to gain weight - not lose. And you consume a ridiculously high calorie level that would require more fat due to density. I specifically said this is bad advice for those who are eating at a deficit and trying to support good health.

    Would you suggest to your "clients" that they consume more fat and less protein and carbs than their body needs? Because that's what's happening here every day.

    that's a great point, and one worth addressing

    if you're eating at a deficit, it's MORE important to hit your micronutrient levels than it is to hit any particular fat macro. Absolutely. That's why using percentages is silly on the whole. Protein requirements are essentially static, and only change with your lean body mass. I personally feel that you can't reach your micro nutrient goals very well unless you're hitting at least 100g of carbs through mainly fruits and veggies (that's an opinion, I know there are a lot of Keto fans out there - I'm not one of them).

    but once you know how much protein you need, and how many carbs your body feels good on and needs to hit nutrient levels, the rest can absolutely be taken up by fat if you so desire. It will NOT cause you any harm, as long as you avoid trans fats and stick to as many good fats as possible (coconut, avocado, olive, animal fats, etc)

    so even in a deficit, you can have a "high fat" diet and see incredible results, and do so in a healthy way.

    The problem wit Adkins was people take it to an extreme and do NO carb diets and thus are missing out on huge chunks of micronutrients the body needs to function.

    I love how you addressed this. Thank you! :flowerforyou:
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    i eat 55% fat.

    dietary fat has no impact on body fat unless you're eating at a caloric surplus. fat is also great for long term energy whereas carbs are better for short term energy. I like long term energy. :)

    55% fat, 25% carbs 20% protein

    You are trying to gain weight - not lose. And you consume a ridiculously high calorie level that would require more fat due to density. I specifically said this is bad advice for those who are eating at a deficit and trying to support good health.

    Would you suggest to your "clients" that they consume more fat and less protein and carbs than their body needs? Because that's what's happening here every day.

    that's a great point, and one worth addressing

    if you're eating at a deficit, it's MORE important to hit your micronutrient levels than it is to hit any particular fat macro. Absolutely. That's why using percentages is silly on the whole. Protein requirements are essentially static, and only change with your lean body mass. I personally feel that you can't reach your micro nutrient goals very well unless you're hitting at least 100g of carbs through mainly fruits and veggies (that's an opinion, I know there are a lot of Keto fans out there - I'm not one of them).

    but once you know how much protein you need, and how many carbs your body feels good on and needs to hit nutrient levels, the rest can absolutely be taken up by fat if you so desire. It will NOT cause you any harm, as long as you avoid trans fats and stick to as many good fats as possible (coconut, avocado, olive, animal fats, etc)

    so even in a deficit, you can have a "high fat" diet and see incredible results, and do so in a healthy way.

    The problem wit Adkins was people take it to an extreme and do NO carb diets and thus are missing out on huge chunks of micronutrients the body needs to function.

    I love how you addressed this. Thank you! :flowerforyou:

    First of all its Atkins, not Adkins............and if people took or take that plan to the extreme, IT IS NOT THE ATKINS LIFESTYLE PLAN. THEY ARE DOING THEIR OWN THING AND SHOULDN'T BLAME IT ON ATKINS.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    i eat 55% fat.

    dietary fat has no impact on body fat unless you're eating at a caloric surplus. fat is also great for long term energy whereas carbs are better for short term energy. I like long term energy. :)

    55% fat, 25% carbs 20% protein

    You are trying to gain weight - not lose. And you consume a ridiculously high calorie level that would require more fat due to density. I specifically said this is bad advice for those who are eating at a deficit and trying to support good health.

    Would you suggest to your "clients" that they consume more fat and less protein and carbs than their body needs? Because that's what's happening here every day.

    that's a great point, and one worth addressing

    if you're eating at a deficit, it's MORE important to hit your micronutrient levels than it is to hit any particular fat macro. Absolutely. That's why using percentages is silly on the whole. Protein requirements are essentially static, and only change with your lean body mass. I personally feel that you can't reach your micro nutrient goals very well unless you're hitting at least 100g of carbs through mainly fruits and veggies (that's an opinion, I know there are a lot of Keto fans out there - I'm not one of them).

    but once you know how much protein you need, and how many carbs your body feels good on and needs to hit nutrient levels, the rest can absolutely be taken up by fat if you so desire. It will NOT cause you any harm, as long as you avoid trans fats and stick to as many good fats as possible (coconut, avocado, olive, animal fats, etc)

    so even in a deficit, you can have a "high fat" diet and see incredible results, and do so in a healthy way.

    The problem wit Adkins was people take it to an extreme and do NO carb diets and thus are missing out on huge chunks of micronutrients the body needs to function.

    I love how you addressed this. Thank you! :flowerforyou:

    First of all its Atkins, not Adkins............and if people took or take that plan to the extreme, IT IS NOT THE ATKINS LIFESTYLE PLAN. THEY ARE DOING THEIR OWN THING AND SHOULDN'T BLAME IT ON ATKINS.

    i also misspelled "with"
  • michellekicks
    michellekicks Posts: 3,624 Member
    i eat 55% fat.

    dietary fat has no impact on body fat unless you're eating at a caloric surplus. fat is also great for long term energy whereas carbs are better for short term energy. I like long term energy. :)

    55% fat, 25% carbs 20% protein

    You are trying to gain weight - not lose. And you consume a ridiculously high calorie level that would require more fat due to density. I specifically said this is bad advice for those who are eating at a deficit and trying to support good health.

    Would you suggest to your "clients" that they consume more fat and less protein and carbs than their body needs? Because that's what's happening here every day.

    that's a great point, and one worth addressing

    if you're eating at a deficit, it's MORE important to hit your micronutrient levels than it is to hit any particular fat macro. Absolutely. That's why using percentages is silly on the whole. Protein requirements are essentially static, and only change with your lean body mass. I personally feel that you can't reach your micro nutrient goals very well unless you're hitting at least 100g of carbs through mainly fruits and veggies (that's an opinion, I know there are a lot of Keto fans out there - I'm not one of them).

    but once you know how much protein you need, and how many carbs your body feels good on and needs to hit nutrient levels, the rest can absolutely be taken up by fat if you so desire. It will NOT cause you any harm, as long as you avoid trans fats and stick to as many good fats as possible (coconut, avocado, olive, animal fats, etc)

    so even in a deficit, you can have a "high fat" diet and see incredible results, and do so in a healthy way.

    The problem wit Adkins was people take it to an extreme and do NO carb diets and thus are missing out on huge chunks of micronutrients the body needs to function.

    I love how you addressed this. Thank you! :flowerforyou:

    First of all its Atkins, not Adkins............and if people took or take that plan to the extreme, IT IS NOT THE ATKINS LIFESTYLE PLAN. THEY ARE DOING THEIR OWN THING AND SHOULDN'T BLAME IT ON ATKINS.

    Why are you yelling at me? I wasn't talking to you.