STOP with the 1200 calorie posts ~ rant

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  • Quote from post above:

    Same things with the stupid posts in which people assert that every woman, despite her genetics and goals, will not increase in size through strength training.



    You won't increase size through strength training alone as a female. It takes far far more than just strength training as a woman to increase in size. On the main part we are trying to dispel the myth that weight training will make women 'bulky'. It's a ridiculous myth that should of died out years ago.
  • chatogal
    chatogal Posts: 436 Member
    But MFP has given me 1200 based on my current weight and losing 1 lb a week.

    Also, Weight Watchers, which is pretty healthy and supports a conservative rate of weight loss, is also about 1200 for my weight and height.

    Wouldn't a net 1200 calories be adequate and healthy, especially if I also eat exercise calories?
    yes it is....as long as you are making healthy choices with your food 1200 can work very well for lots of people and not everyone wants to become a gym bunny now or for the rest if their lives. Each to their own say I :-)
  • But MFP has given me 1200 based on my current weight and losing 1 lb a week.

    Also, Weight Watchers, which is pretty healthy and supports a conservative rate of weight loss, is also about 1200 for my weight and height.

    Wouldn't a net 1200 calories be adequate and healthy, especially if I also eat exercise calories?
    yes it is....as long as you are making healthy choices with your food 1200 can work very well for lots of people and not everyone wants to become a gym bunny now or for the rest if their lives. Each to their own say I :-)

    But if you maybe did decide to try using the gym you wouldn't have to try and live on 1200 cals? Just a thought. I was a little chubbster this time last year. Hated the gym, tried to lose on 1200, couldn't live on it at all. I changed from an unfit lazy lump to how I am now. I know I am younger than you before you say it...but I have a lady on my FL, similar age to you. She eats around 1500 a day and weight lifts. She is a fantastic example that age doesn't have to be a factor. Any factor in your life can be changed, its just a mental game.
  • Fozzi43
    Fozzi43 Posts: 2,984 Member
    If MFP gives you 1200 calories to eat to lose weight..what are you supposed to do when you've reached your goal..1200 won't be fun to live on forever as you don't get many more calories to eat on maintaince.
  • peachfigs
    peachfigs Posts: 831 Member
    Every time I click on the message board it's full of things like ''I'M GAINING ON 1200 CALORIES????'' ''NOT LOSING ON 1200???'' etc. Stop and actually READ what people are replying to these posts before making one. You aren't a special snowflake. I understand some people lose better on 1200 calories, but if you find yourself reading 2 or more posts that are relevant to you and your problem with eating 1200 calories, maybe actually TAKE IN what people are replying.

    Alas, have a good weekend everyone! haha :-)

    Don't you thinking adding this post was probably just clutter as well? Almost any discussion on the 1200 calorie issue has been done to death.

    And by the way, the "you're not a special snowflake" comment is not even funny anymore. If you guys are going to quote a movie, please at least quote a good one.
  • peachfigs
    peachfigs Posts: 831 Member
    If MFP gives you 1200 calories to eat to lose weight..what are you supposed to do when you've reached your goal..1200 won't be fun to live on forever as you don't get many more calories to eat on maintaince.

    That applies to any calorie deficit you're eating, not just 1200.
  • babydiego87
    babydiego87 Posts: 905 Member
    If MFP gives you 1200 calories to eat to lose weight..what are you supposed to do when you've reached your goal..1200 won't be fun to live on forever as you don't get many more calories to eat on maintaince.
    do you even know what you're talking about? for a petite woman, 1500 calories is perfectly fine to maintain. isnt the goal to not eat like a cow any more? if you cant do that on 1500, idk what to tell you. factor in exercise and eating back a little bit more...where is the problem here?
  • If MFP gives you 1200 calories to eat to lose weight..what are you supposed to do when you've reached your goal..1200 won't be fun to live on forever as you don't get many more calories to eat on maintaince.
    do you even know what you're talking about? for a petite woman, 1500 calories is perfectly fine to maintain. isnt the goal to not eat like a cow any more? if you cant do that on 1500, idk what to tell you. factor in exercise and eating back a little bit more...where is the problem here?

    Who the hell maintains on 1500? Seriously? Are you like 4 ft tall and never move?
  • babydiego87
    babydiego87 Posts: 905 Member
    If MFP gives you 1200 calories to eat to lose weight..what are you supposed to do when you've reached your goal..1200 won't be fun to live on forever as you don't get many more calories to eat on maintaince.
    do you even know what you're talking about? for a petite woman, 1500 calories is perfectly fine to maintain. isnt the goal to not eat like a cow any more? if you cant do that on 1500, idk what to tell you. factor in exercise and eating back a little bit more...where is the problem here?

    Who the hell maintains on 1500? Seriously? Are you like 4 ft tall and never move?
    so are you telling me the famed scoobys wrong then? because thats what it tells me.
  • If MFP gives you 1200 calories to eat to lose weight..what are you supposed to do when you've reached your goal..1200 won't be fun to live on forever as you don't get many more calories to eat on maintaince.
    do you even know what you're talking about? for a petite woman, 1500 calories is perfectly fine to maintain. isnt the goal to not eat like a cow any more? if you cant do that on 1500, idk what to tell you. factor in exercise and eating back a little bit more...where is the problem here?

    Who the hell maintains on 1500? Seriously? Are you like 4 ft tall and never move?
    so are you telling me the famed scoobys wrong then? because thats what it tells me.

    I don't know if he is right or wrong...I use a fitbit.
  • babydiego87
    babydiego87 Posts: 905 Member
    If I have 3 meals that come to 400 calories each, that's 1200 calories. That means I have 300 calories for treats or snacks. Are you REALLY trying to tell me that's so difficult? :laugh: wow good luck to you, clearly this whole 'lifestyle' thing isn't working out for you.
  • peachfigs
    peachfigs Posts: 831 Member
    I'd also like to point out that someone who eats healthy, clean foods will struggle to meet a higher calorie amount anyway. There are hardly any calories in fruits and vegetables, but a very high amount of essential nutrients.

    Since when is the calorie content of the food more important than the nutrient density?

    Isn't a 1,200 calorie diet of clean, nutritious foods more efficient than eating 1,800+ and including rubbish like pop tarts and ice cream?

    A lot of you have the definition of "starving" all wrong.
  • If I have 3 meals that come to 400 calories each, that's 1200 calories. That means I have 300 calories for treats or snacks. Are you REALLY trying to tell me that's so difficult? :laugh: wow good luck to you, clearly this whole 'lifestyle' thing isn't working out for you.

    Are you addressing me?
  • chatogal
    chatogal Posts: 436 Member
    I'd also like to point out that someone who eats healthy, clean foods will struggle to meet a higher calorie amount anyway. There are hardly any calories in fruits and vegetables, but a very high amount of essential nutrients.

    Since when is the calorie content of the food more important than the nutrient density?

    Isn't a 1,200 calorie diet of clean, nutritious foods more efficient than eating 1,800+ and including rubbish like pop tarts and ice cream?

    A lot of you have the definition of "starving" all wrong.

    love this :-) Was beginning to think there no sensible people in these forums...wtg :-)
  • I'd also like to point out that someone who eats healthy, clean foods will struggle to meet a higher calorie amount anyway. There are hardly any calories in fruits and vegetables, but a very high amount of essential nutrients.

    Since when is the calorie content of the food more important than the nutrient density?

    Isn't a 1,200 calorie diet of clean, nutritious foods more efficient than eating 1,800+ and including rubbish like pop tarts and ice cream?

    A lot of you have the definition of "starving" all wrong.

    I guarantee you my diet is pretty clean and I don't struggle to eat over 1200 at all. But yes, I must be doing it all wrong...clearly it isn't working for me.
  • peachfigs
    peachfigs Posts: 831 Member
    I'd also like to point out that someone who eats healthy, clean foods will struggle to meet a higher calorie amount anyway. There are hardly any calories in fruits and vegetables, but a very high amount of essential nutrients.

    Since when is the calorie content of the food more important than the nutrient density?

    Isn't a 1,200 calorie diet of clean, nutritious foods more efficient than eating 1,800+ and including rubbish like pop tarts and ice cream?

    A lot of you have the definition of "starving" all wrong.

    I guarantee you my diet is as pretty clean and I dont struggle to eat over 1200 at all. But yes, I must be doing it all wrong...clearly it isn't working for me.

    Actually it sounds like it is working for you, and that's wonderful. I'm not judging your diet or your lifestyle. Unfortunately, I'm having to constantly defend my own.
  • toutmonpossible
    toutmonpossible Posts: 1,580 Member
    I'm 5'4 and sedentary. I have physical limitations that cause a lot of pain. I'm hoping to start using my recumbent bike soon, starting at 5-10 minutes as recommended, along with my physical therapy routine of stretching and strengthening. Anyhow, I'm 206 pounds, and wanted to lose a pound per week, which landed me at 1260 calories.

    My doctor actually told me to stick with 600 calories, so it's more than she recommends! I do plan to eat calories back and start adding in my exercise calories once I start. I was 1400 until i lost 11 pounds and MFP asked me to re-enter my info.. And YES, I have read the 1200 posts to learn and have learned from them.

    You're really going ignore the advice of a medical professional who has examined you and knows your medical history in favor of some people who like jawbone on the web? If your doctor told you to go on a diet that restricted, there's probably a reason.
  • Vailara
    Vailara Posts: 2,467 Member
    If MFP gives you 1200 calories to eat to lose weight..what are you supposed to do when you've reached your goal..1200 won't be fun to live on forever as you don't get many more calories to eat on maintaince.

    That applies to any calorie deficit you're eating, not just 1200.

    Yes, isn't that partly why maintenance is so difficult? My goal weight (i.e. my "normal" weight before I gained) sedentary maintenance calories are around 1300. To be honest, I don't know if I'm going to be able to do that and have been thinking of setting my goal much higher. Obviously, all of us who have been obese, are going to have to get used to a maintenance level of calories at goal weight, which is going to be much less than a maintenance level of calories at obese weight. I don't know if the actual number makes much difference. Is it just as hard for somebody to maintain on 2000 calories, if they were previously eating 3000 calories, as it would be for somebody to maintain on 1400 calories, who was previously eating 2000?
  • toutmonpossible
    toutmonpossible Posts: 1,580 Member
    I absolutely agree with you, it's like now that people have lost some weight they've gained some guru status and the right to judge newbies! I find the whole "snowflake" comment quite nasty.

    It's actually the self-appointed gurus who haven't succeeded in losing weight or who are on their 20th attempt who bug me. They tend to scream the loudest and with the most ignorance.
  • chatogal
    chatogal Posts: 436 Member
    But MFP has given me 1200 based on my current weight and losing 1 lb a week.

    Also, Weight Watchers, which is pretty healthy and supports a conservative rate of weight loss, is also about 1200 for my weight and height.

    Wouldn't a net 1200 calories be adequate and healthy, especially if I also eat exercise calories?
    yes it is....as long as you are making healthy choices with your food 1200 can work very well for lots of people and not everyone wants to become a gym bunny now or for the rest if their lives. Each to their own say I :-)

    But if you maybe did decide to try using the gym you wouldn't have to try and live on 1200 cals? Just a thought. I was a little chubbster this time last year. Hated the gym, tried to lose on 1200, couldn't live on it at all. I changed from an unfit lazy lump to how I am now. I know I am younger than you before you say it...but I have a lady on my FL, similar age to you. She eats around 1500 a day and weight lifts. She is a fantastic example that age doesn't have to be a factor. Any factor in your life can be changed, its just a mental game.

    lots of ways of becoming fit or maintaining fitness without the use of a gym and probably far more sustainable over a life than using a gym, such as walking, jogging, cycling, gardening, housework, playing tennis, hockey, netball, basketball, skipping...heck anything that gets you moving, plus you are outside getting fresh air, stoking up on sunlight and much needed vitamin d :-) Anyway, as I said, each to their own and mine is DEFINETLY not gym orientated, but is health orientated :-)
  • lilmissymoo90
    lilmissymoo90 Posts: 324 Member
    Every time I click on the message board it's full of things like ''I'M GAINING ON 1200 CALORIES????'' ''NOT LOSING ON 1200???'' etc. Stop and actually READ what people are replying to these posts before making one. You aren't a special snowflake. I understand some people lose better on 1200 calories, but if you find yourself reading 2 or more posts that are relevant to you and your problem with eating 1200 calories, maybe actually TAKE IN what people are replying.

    Alas, have a good weekend everyone! haha :-)

    I empathize with those folks. They put their data in the website, the website tells them to eat 1200, and they exercise herculean-bordering-on-anorexic self-control and yet see no results. It's tragic. :-(


    why cant people just let others get on with it ive been eating 1200 and im fine infact ive lost a good lot of weight im not hungry ect people who are eating 1200 and are gaining obv that doesnt work for them and they think more calories is more gain which is why they make the posts .
  • Meh...I have no idea why I am even here reading this thread. Hamster wheel effect. Round and round it goes. The 1200 people bash the eat more people, the eat more people respond. On and on it goes. Waste of time. Bored of the silly debating now. It serves no purpose, everyone thinks they are right ultimately. Who cares really at the end of the day? Just do what you do...blar blar blar..
  • peachfigs
    peachfigs Posts: 831 Member
    Meh...I have no idea why I am even here reading this thread. Hamster wheel effect. Round and round it goes. The 1200 people bash the eat more people, the eat more people respond. On and on it goes. Waste of time. Bored of the silly debating now. It serves no purpose, everyone thinks they are right ultimately. Who cares really at the end of the day? Just do what you do...blar blar blar..

    Absolutely agree. These threads are so boring and pointless no matter what side you're coming from. Not sure why I even got sucked into this again.

    I suggest we all do something more productive like micro manage our OWN lives instead of everyone else's. :smokin:
  • mscolleen2003
    mscolleen2003 Posts: 126 Member
    In my humble opinion;

    I am 54 years old and have lived on a diet my entire life. This last year I stumbled on to EatMoretoweighless on facebook (it's also on here) https://www.facebook.com/EM2WL?fref=ts For the first time in my life I don't get on a scale. I eat 1800 to 2200 calories per day (depending on how much exercise I am getting) and I work out. It has been the hardest thing I have ever done because it goes against everything that I have lived. But folks, I feel better, I have more energy, I sleep better and I'm not always freaked out about the scale. It is going to be a long road for me, but I am going to walk this road to health. I feel sorry for these people, we as a society have been trained to starve to death and be a slave to the scale since kindergarten when that nurse first weighed us in front of the entire class.

    Wise up folks, the less you eat, the harder it will be to keep it off. Eat healthy and move, teach your body to burn what you eat.

    One more thought, It was easier for me to quit smoking then it was to give up jumping on and off the scale and praying to be even a half of a pound lighter.
  • Meh...I have no idea why I am even here reading this thread. Hamster wheel effect. Round and round it goes. The 1200 people bash the eat more people, the eat more people respond. On and on it goes. Waste of time. Bored of the silly debating now. It serves no purpose, everyone thinks they are right ultimately. Who cares really at the end of the day? Just do what you do...blar blar blar..

    Absolutely agree. These threads are so boring and pointless no matter what side you're coming from. Not sure why I even got sucked into this again.

    I suggest we all do something more productive like micro manage our OWN lives instead of everyone else's. :smokin:

    Indeed. Well put. :flowerforyou:
  • Ophidion
    Ophidion Posts: 2,065 Member
    Agreed people should actually take the time to read reply's and make the effort to look for previous post that are relevant...but who gives a *kitten* if someone post a subject again, I would hazard a guess that there is no gun being held to your head making you read the posts. Just ignore them, problem solved.
  • lilmissymoo90
    lilmissymoo90 Posts: 324 Member
    Meh...I have no idea why I am even here reading this thread. Hamster wheel effect. Round and round it goes. The 1200 people bash the eat more people, the eat more people respond. On and on it goes. Waste of time. Bored of the silly debating now. It serves no purpose, everyone thinks they are right ultimately. Who cares really at the end of the day? Just do what you do...blar blar blar..

    i dont bash anyone i eat 1200 i have friends who eat alot more whatever works for them i eat vegan and i eat alot i only eat brown rice brown bread ect but not very often and i find it hard to get the 1200 cals as it is i dont know how people eat 1200 a day of junk when i started i ate badly and when your eating bad food i found it hard to stick to 1200 i think quality is better than quantity and if im hungry i do go over 1200 but usually at weekends when im tv munching lol
  • I will eat 1200 calories for breakfast today. This thread has inspired me :glasses:
  • lilmissymoo90
    lilmissymoo90 Posts: 324 Member
    I will eat 1200 calories for breakfast today. This thread has inspired me :glasses:

    i bet that will be an awesome breakfast =D my husband eats about 4000 cals a day .....
  • I agree that people should look through the recent pages of the board before posting a thread they think has been posted before, but there's really no need to be SO judgmental. If the fact that people need help and advice when they're starting their diet or healthy lifestyle annoys you, ignore those posts, don't go through all of the effort just to make people who have posted topics like this feel like crap.

    The first time I came to this site, I left and stopped using it because I didn't find the people helpful or willing to give me the support I was craving, I'd hate to think that others get disheartened and leave just because they're worried they'll 'annoy' people by posting something unoriginal. Give some people a break, it's hard to start a new healthy lifestyle without any experience (I know!) and the MFP boards should be a place that being judged isn't an issue...this isn't a popularity contest, it's here for help.

    And finally, EVERYONE is different, so we're all bloody special snowflakes!
    Hmpht.