The wisdom of the young
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Intellect is one thingWe all mature at different levels and times in our lives!
The following study was envisioned by a 16-year-old.
That Organics are Healthier than Conventional Foods
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0052988
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I don't have any advice, although I'm apparently old enough to give it. I'm just wondering at what age you become mature enough to pick fights with 18 year olds on the internet? Does that level of maturity level kick in at 38 or is 40 the minimum?
When did I ever claim to be mature??
Haha. I rest my case.
About what? Your case was about intelligence and laziness, not maturity.
Who cares what my case is about? like in politics...exploiting a politician's dirty affair makes him less in the eyes of the people-regardless of the fact that its not related to politics. You just said you're not mature...even if it has nothing to do with the argument, your argument loses validity
Not really. Blowbama got voted in again didn't he??
But I thought this was a weight loss site, not a poly science group!!
Because he gives money to the lazy people of our country, and majority of the country is lazy...if you really want to get into that.
Ohhh...very nicely done!!
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Yay! We finally agree on something....the other guy, however, seems to have his balls in a knot
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There are some incredibly stupid 40 year olds that post here.....
...says the woman who hates the stupidity of some posts as much as I do. And I quote from your profile: "...without having to go through the bull*hit you find on the main forums..."0 -
Would you like me to edit that post? I don't want to blow your cover.
It's me, silverkittycat.
Nah. I don't care. You are probably one of three who remembers the BearTiger.
Four.
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just cuz u were a dumbass doesnt make me a dumbass
No, the fact that you construct a sentence the way you do makes you a dumbass.
I can construct a sentence just as well as you can. Because I can get my point across in fewer words, I choose not to. Nobody wants to read long, proper sentences anymore. Stick to the times, and get to the point.
You're in for a rude awakening when you join the real world. Professionals absolutely want to read long, proper sentences. Thank you for proving my original point.
But this is not a professional environment; it's a casual one. She knows the difference.0 -
just cuz u were a dumbass doesnt make me a dumbass
No, the fact that you construct a sentence the way you do makes you a dumbass.
I can construct a sentence just as well as you can. Because I can get my point across in fewer words, I choose not to. Nobody wants to read long, proper sentences anymore. Stick to the times, and get to the point.
This is a sad commentary on the laziness of todays youth
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Which is why if I catch my 15yr old daughter using text speak on her cell or anywhere else, to myself, or to her friends...she loses it for a week.
Period.
I feel bad for your daughter....
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I am 24. I agree that I shouldn't have to answer to some 40 year old lady's questions about TOM. Yet, I've been doing so for quite some time on here.0
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just cuz u were a dumbass doesnt make me a dumbass
No, the fact that you construct a sentence the way you do makes you a dumbass.
I can construct a sentence just as well as you can. Because I can get my point across in fewer words, I choose not to. Nobody wants to read long, proper sentences anymore. Stick to the times, and get to the point.
You're in for a rude awakening when you join the real world. Professionals absolutely want to read long, proper sentences. Thank you for proving my original point.
We're not in a professional setting right now. Part of being a good communicator is discerning what kind of diction is appropriate for different environments.
Absolutely true. There is a difference between formal and informal communication. I DO NOT speak nor write to my friends and family the same way I communicate with my boss. A simple text to my sister will not look like a business letter, for God's sake! Chill out, OP! (There needs to be a rolling eyes smiley for this thread.)0 -
Thank you!!! Another responsible parent who cares about the slow death of the English language and the way kids of today utilise it!
Not a parent, but an ESL teacher, and I got in a pretty heated argument with a "friend" on here because I was tired of his abuse of the language. He proceeded to question my intelligence, my knowledge of English, and my ability to teach it all because I asked him to please spell out his words. I'm not perfect by any stretch, but the slow death of my language makes me sad.0 -
Does that mean that I'm four months away from being allowed to give advice?
I don't know whether or not you were intending to be patronizing, but it certainly came across that way. I'm 22 years old, I spent two years in the military, and traveled across the majority of the country. Afterwards, I married and had two kids. Now, I'm a year away from my bachelor's degree. I have plenty of advice to give.
Yes, I understand you said that MOST people don't have the right to give advice in the 18-22 age group, but the fact that you put such strict age parameters on your original post could be considered offensive.
Personally, I only give advice about what I've personally experienced and what I've learned from experts. I don't want to be a danger to anyone.0 -
I pity folks who demand the same attention to eloquent writing in informal situations as formal. Are all forms of etiquette like that for them? Do they shake hands and politely introduce themselves to family members upon every meeting? Sir/Ma'm after every random encounter in the streets? A soliloquy of poetry and prose for each question or musing that comes across their mind?
How exhausting. And socially awkward. It would make getting along in today's world an uncomfortable experience, both for the person displaying that behavior and for those receiving it.
And for the young not knowing anything - the young sometimes have experiences that others, god willing and with a hearty amount of good decisions and a little luck - will never have to know.0 -
I pity folks who demand the same attention to eloquent writing in informal situations as formal. Are all forms of etiquette like that for them? Do they shake hands and politely introduce themselves to family members upon every meeting? Sir/Ma'm after every random encounter in the streets? A soliloquy of poetry and prose for each question or musing that comes across their mind?
How exhausting. And socially awkward. It would make getting along in today's world an uncomfortable experience, both for the person displaying that behavior and for those receiving it.
And for the young not knowing anything - the young sometimes have experiences that others, god willing and with a hearty amount of good decisions and a little luck - will never have to know.
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There are some incredibly stupid 40 year olds that post here.....
...says the woman who hates the stupidity of some posts as much as I do. And I quote from your profile: "...without having to go through the bull*hit you find on the main forums..."
What has your response got to do with my comment? My profile does not say "...without having to go through the bull*hit you find on the main forums from 18 - 22 year olds..." does it?0 -
My family was always on my case for correcting my (6 year old) daughter's grammar from a very young age, but she speaks more intelligently than some adults I know.Thank you!!! Another responsible parent who cares about the slow death of the English language and the way kids of today utilise it!
Not a parent, but an ESL teacher, and I got in a pretty heated argument with a "friend" on here because I was tired of his abuse of the language. He proceeded to question my intelligence, my knowledge of English, and my ability to teach it all because I asked him to please spell out his words. I'm not perfect by any stretch, but the slow death of my language makes me sad.
I had a job several years ago as a writer for a company, and everything was to be written in STE or SE (Simplified English). I was given a dictionary of basically 500 words that I could use (technical words were the exception to the rule), and it was a challenge to modify over 20 years of my English usage. Everything was written this way so it could be easily translated into different languages.
My English is far from perfect, but I can't stand texting lingo. I don't even acknowledge text messages from my friends if they're sent to me in such a fashion.0 -
My family was always on my case for correcting my (6 year old) daughter's grammar from a very young age, but she speaks more intelligently than some adults I know.Thank you!!! Another responsible parent who cares about the slow death of the English language and the way kids of today utilise it!
Not a parent, but an ESL teacher, and I got in a pretty heated argument with a "friend" on here because I was tired of his abuse of the language. He proceeded to question my intelligence, my knowledge of English, and my ability to teach it all because I asked him to please spell out his words. I'm not perfect by any stretch, but the slow death of my language makes me sad.
I had a job several years ago as a writer for a company, and everything was to be written in STE or SE (Simplified English). I was given a dictionary of basically 500 words that I could use (technical words were the exception to the rule), and it was a challenge to modify over 20 years of my English usage. Everything was written this way so it could be easily translated into different languages.
My English is far from perfect, but I can't stand texting lingo. I don't even acknowledge text messages from my friends if they're sent to me in such a fashion.
I tend to be very informal in my communication unless the situation dictates formality, but I at least like to read things that somewhat resemble the English language.
It doesn't always bother me, and I let a lot of people get away with it, but when it's horrible - like with this person I was talking about - that's when it grates on me enough to say something.0 -
While I will absolutely agree that very few, if any, people are as wise at 20 as they are at 50, your criticism, OP, is both over and under inclusive. The issue is that there are quite a few people who just have no clue and are giving advice. It is up to the receivers of that advice, however, to discern the good from the bad. That critical reasoning ability, or the lack thereof, is why some get their information from Dr. Oz and others from pubmed, to use but one example. And that said, there are at least a handful of people on here that are in their 20s who are much wiser than many others in their 50s and 60s.0
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There are some incredibly stupid 40 year olds that post here.....
...says the woman who hates the stupidity of some posts as much as I do. And I quote from your profile: "...without having to go through the bull*hit you find on the main forums..."
What has your response got to do with my comment? My profile does not say "...without having to go through the bull*hit you find on the main forums from 18 - 22 year olds..." does it?
I'm wondering too. That made no sense. Sara may get frustrated at some of the things that get posted, but she doesn't automatically assume that all "idiotic posts" are made by those in a certain age range0 -
I pity folks who demand the same attention to eloquent writing in informal situations as formal. Are all forms of etiquette like that for them? Do they shake hands and politely introduce themselves to family members upon every meeting? Sir/Ma'm after every random encounter in the streets? A soliloquy of poetry and prose for each question or musing that comes across their mind?
How exhausting. And socially awkward. It would make getting along in today's world an uncomfortable both for the person displaying that behavior and for those receiving it.
And for the young not knowing anything - the young sometimes have experiences that others, god willing and with a hearty amount of good decisions and a little luck - will never have to know.
Formal/business.
Informal/casual.
Lazy butchering?
There's more than two categories here miss.
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My family was always on my case for correcting my (6 year old) daughter's grammar from a very young age, but she speaks more intelligently than some adults I know.Thank you!!! Another responsible parent who cares about the slow death of the English language and the way kids of today utilise it!
Not a parent, but an ESL teacher, and I got in a pretty heated argument with a "friend" on here because I was tired of his abuse of the language. He proceeded to question my intelligence, my knowledge of English, and my ability to teach it all because I asked him to please spell out his words. I'm not perfect by any stretch, but the slow death of my language makes me sad.
I had a job several years ago as a writer for a company, and everything was to be written in STE or SE (Simplified English). I was given a dictionary of basically 500 words that I could use (technical words were the exception to the rule), and it was a challenge to modify over 20 years of my English usage. Everything was written this way so it could be easily translated into different languages.
My English is far from perfect, but I can't stand texting lingo. I don't even acknowledge text messages from my friends if they're sent to me in such a fashion.
I tend to be very informal in my communication unless the situation dictates formality, but I at least like to read things that somewhat resemble the English language.
It doesn't always bother me, and I let a lot of people get away with it, but when it's horrible - like with this person I was talking about - that's when it grates on me enough to say something.
Requiring standard English, free from argot and other linguistic dalliances in an informal setting such as a forum just highlights a lack of fluency of the written form. Slang, text speak and all the modern language ruptures are part of the transience of language and thought; it's a living structure with its own fluidity that we can either playfully embrace or staidly criticize.
The constant use of weak language does point out an inability to either refine thought or communicate it but no more or less than having a long broomstick up the linguistic posterior oriffice. Be flexible, it's just easier.
Edit: oh, there are idiots of every age.0 -
I pity folks who demand the same attention to eloquent writing in informal situations as formal. Are all forms of etiquette like that for them? Do they shake hands and politely introduce themselves to family members upon every meeting? Sir/Ma'm after every random encounter in the streets? A soliloquy of poetry and prose for each question or musing that comes across their mind?
How exhausting. And socially awkward. It would make getting along in today's world an uncomfortable both for the person displaying that behavior and for those receiving it.
And for the young not knowing anything - the young sometimes have experiences that others, god willing and with a hearty amount of good decisions and a little luck - will never have to know.
Formal/business.
Informal/casual.
Lazy butchering?
There's more than two categories here miss.
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Don't get me wrong - I have a knee jerk reaction when my sister posts "I so sick of da **** n drama dat goez on in my life." But she posts it on FB, where I share an ungodly amount of cat and demotivational posters. It's not like she's getting a grade on it. The same for her texting.
(I'm perfectly able to speak and write well. I rather love it, as a matter of fact. I find comfort in the written word. But spell out every single word in full on a phone with a keyboard half the size of my hand and buttons a quarter the size of my pinkie? Hell no. Practicality - it also has its place.)0 -
I guess my point didn't come across very clear, as I didn't spell it out for those who choose not to read between the lines. Habits, whether they are good are bad, become more difficult to break the longer one chooses to exercise such behaviors. For instance, I swear like a sailor at work, and it's made it very difficult for me to not speak in such a fashion at home, around my kid, at school, around my family, etc. because I've done it for so long.Requiring standard English, free from argot and other linguistic dalliances in an informal setting such as a forum just highlights a lack of fluency of the written form. Slang, text speak and all the modern language ruptures are part of the transience of language and thought; it's a living structure with its own fluidity that we can either playfully embrace or staidly criticize.
The constant use of weak language does point out an inability to either refine thought or communicate it but no more or less than having a long broomstick up the linguistic posterior oriffice. Be flexible, it's just easier.
Edit: oh, there are idiots of every age.
Another thing is that not everyone here is aware of all the the slang used by others, or the [ridiculous] acronyms someone fabricated; I can't tell you how many times a day I have to GTS.
Then there's the people who will put 5 ellipses in their post instead of a period or semicolon, which, in turn, elongates their post. But I guess it's okay because they took 1 letter out of 5 different words in their post, or they left out the object or the subjunctive in several of their sentences.
I shouldn't have to dumb myself down because others choose not to exhibit intelligence in their writing. Society should have higher standards than that. While I understand that this is just an internet forum, but the more accepted it becomes in our every day life, the more our society becomes accepting for a flagrant disregard for improper use of the English language all together.0 -
I...like...to....use....ellipsis.....
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For ....some reason....this reminds me...of CSI: .....MiamiI...like...to....use....ellipsis.....
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This is the age of information. I'm going to take advice from someone in the 18 - 22 year old range who seems to have their head on straight before someone in their 40s who feels that surviving another couple of decades on account of being born earlier makes them a sage in all things. I've seen plenty of people in their 30s and 40s recommend silliness like juice cleanses and laxatives to lose weight. Dr. Phil is 62.
You have a personal responsibility to take any advice you are given with a grain of salt. Critical thinking and common sense are a personal imperative and should you choose not to employ them, it's at your own peril.0 -
I guess since I'm 23, I'm out of that age range and am qualified to be giving such advice
ETA: I had a college degree in Nutrition Science at 22. Not sure if that makes me an exception or still not qualified to be giving advice to the older folks.0 -
(I'm perfectly able to speak and write well. I rather love it, as a matter of fact. I find comfort in the written word. But spell out every single word in full on a phone with a keyboard half the size of my hand and buttons a quarter the size of my pinkie? Hell no. Practicality - it also has its place.)
Perhaps it does! But at the same time...I'm relatively sure my fingers would be larger than yours, not to mention my hand...and I still manage to do it lol. At home, at work, and even on the bike you see pictured in my ticker (I built a tank mount for it so I could more easily control my music, but it also allows for texting).
Understand!...I'm not bashing things like 'lol' or other basic acronyms that have grown to convey emotion through text...I'm talking about pure laziness lol.
90% of my forum posts are from my s3...feel free to browse and you'll see what I mean. 0 -
I am on my cell nine times out of ten, I do have typos but usually due to auto correct. I am more lazy with grammar and spelling on my phone. I admit that. Now what's this have to do with offering advice, youth, and a fitness site? :drinker:0
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I'll admit that I fall right in the middle of that category and I give advice on things I believe I understand, but if someone is asking for advice, why is it wrong to give it to them, regardless of age? There's nothing wrong with receiving different types of advice, and if the person asking is sensible, they will think carefully about everything they're told.0
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I think that no matter what the age no one should be answering or asking medical questions on this forum. If you aren't a doctor or a nurse with medical training, then you are just giving answers based on what your experience is. As far as parental and relationship advice, a young adult might not be the person giving advice either. But then this isn't the best place for that kind of question either. I would guess that younger adults know a bit more about current nutrition and exercise, because it is always changing. Why not realize where the information is coming from, and take it a grain of salt.0
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