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  • ScottysSpeedShop
    ScottysSpeedShop Posts: 47 Member
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    Hi. Just checking in to see how everyone is doing this evening.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
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    Hi. Just checking in to see how everyone is doing this evening.

    I think some of us are feeling a little passive aggressive, dontcha think?
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    I haven't seen anything yet that credibly refutes the suggestion made in like the second or third post.
    You guys need more Twinkies. Lots more.

    What post are you talking about?

    Hey! Get in line. I asked first.
    For clarity, to which guys are you referring by "[y]ou guys"?

    I would also love to know this.

    After Jof finds out of course. He was in line before me.

    As usual, we probably won't get an answer. Was apparently just another cheap shot fired at a group of people...but since this particular target is the "mean people", it's completely different and totally fine...

    ...because hypocrisy.
  • candicane32081
    candicane32081 Posts: 132 Member
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    This is by far the most exciting message board I have ever seen! And to think, I was gonna miss Jerry Springer for this. I am definately getting rid of cable!:tongue:
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
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    This is by far the most exciting message board I have ever seen! And to think, I was gonna miss Jerry Springer for this. I am definately getting rid of cable!:tongue:

    I'd hold off on that. It can be entertaining but it gets pretty repetitive. At least keep your Netflix. :)
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,229 Member
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    Meh.

    I could deconstruct the CICO model if I wanted to using PubMed abstracts. In an area of such inherent uncertainty as nutrition and fitness I am always wary of people who pontificate with absolutely certainty on most areas within it.

    One of the brightest minds in fitness in my view is Matt Perryman and he has this to say:
    The problem to me isn’t the fact that science is used as a tool, but rather the reverence for, and certainty given to, the findings of published research with no further context. There’s an awful lot of confidence there for an awfully shaky set of assumptions, especially given the realities of exercise science and nutritional research. This is not to say that the research is useless — far from it — but more often than not it becomes fodder for a rider looking to justify the elephant’s intuitive choice. Constructing a story out of Pubmed abstracts is not a particularly compelling case.

    Personally speaking I’m less confident than ever that looking at published research can provide all the answers; and likewise, I’m much less willing to be so vocal in pushing arguments which have so much inherent uncertainty (and when I can’t be sure of eliminating my own biases).

    link: http://www.myosynthesis.com/two-minds-flame-war

    Here I go debating with you again, but....

    While I agree that science is never absolutely certain, I personally feel more certain about putting my faith in a study that follows the scientific model and has been strenuously reviewed than in research that is not properly performed and is generally unexplained. Most of the research I see used on this site is not scientific and generally anecdotal at best.

    The human body, for all intents and purposes, is designed to perform one way. As with any statistically motivated research, there is always instances that occur outside the confines of normal context. To better interpret the results of the research, these abnormalities are thrown out. That does not mean that what is not true for the minority is not true for the majority. Exceptions to the rule does not invalidate the rule.
  • craigmandu
    craigmandu Posts: 976 Member
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    Interesting set of replies...both to this thread and the orignal.

    You guys went to awful great lengths to do what? Someone posted a link...it happens all the time. The first retaliation post that listed actual studies that concluded the original link was incorrect was all that was needed to show the "community" that the link posted had inaccuracies in it, and was not complete in nature.

    The other 3 pages were just crap. People bandwagoning in an attempt to do what exactly?

    Kind of like this thread. Guy posts a "butt-hurt", all that is needed is to link the original post...not 6 pages of grandstanding.
  • RhineDHP
    RhineDHP Posts: 1,025 Member
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    Interesting set of replies...both to this thread and the orignal.

    You guys went to awful great lengths to do what? Someone posted a link...it happens all the time. The first retaliation post that listed actual studies that concluded the original link was incorrect was all that was needed to show the "community" that the link posted had inaccuracies in it, and was not complete in nature.

    The other 3 pages were just crap. People bandwagoning in an attempt to do what exactly?

    Kind of like this thread. Guy posts a "butt-hurt", all that is needed is to link the original post...not 6 pages of grandstanding.

    Welcome to the forums.

    Scratch that, welcome to interwebz.
  • BurtHuttz
    BurtHuttz Posts: 3,653 Member
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    Guy posts a "butt-hurt", all that is needed is to link the original post...not 6 pages of grandstanding.

    You rang?


    GOD DAMNIT!!!!
  • craigmandu
    craigmandu Posts: 976 Member
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    Interesting set of replies...both to this thread and the orignal.

    You guys went to awful great lengths to do what? Someone posted a link...it happens all the time. The first retaliation post that listed actual studies that concluded the original link was incorrect was all that was needed to show the "community" that the link posted had inaccuracies in it, and was not complete in nature.

    The other 3 pages were just crap. People bandwagoning in an attempt to do what exactly?

    Kind of like this thread. Guy posts a "butt-hurt", all that is needed is to link the original post...not 6 pages of grandstanding.

    Welcome to the forums.

    Scratch that, welcome to interwebz.

    I like the success stories boards better....
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    Interesting set of replies...both to this thread and the orignal.

    You guys went to awful great lengths to do what? Someone posted a link...it happens all the time. The first retaliation post that listed actual studies that concluded the original link was incorrect was all that was needed to show the "community" that the link posted had inaccuracies in it, and was not complete in nature.

    The other 3 pages were just crap. People bandwagoning in an attempt to do what exactly?

    Kind of like this thread. Guy posts a "butt-hurt", all that is needed is to link the original post...not 6 pages of grandstanding.

    Your post, however...totally different and not like that at all, right?
  • craigmandu
    craigmandu Posts: 976 Member
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    Your post, however...totally different and not like that at all, right?

    Damnit, I shouldn't have posted at all....YOU WILL NOT LURE ME INTO THIS!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    i guess there is an original thread that I am missing ..

    but this *kitten* sounds good ..so count me in ..!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    Interesting set of replies...both to this thread and the orignal.

    You guys went to awful great lengths to do what? Someone posted a link...it happens all the time. The first retaliation post that listed actual studies that concluded the original link was incorrect was all that was needed to show the "community" that the link posted had inaccuracies in it, and was not complete in nature.

    The other 3 pages were just crap. People bandwagoning in an attempt to do what exactly?

    Kind of like this thread. Guy posts a "butt-hurt", all that is needed is to link the original post...not 6 pages of grandstanding.

    Welcome to the forums.

    Scratch that, welcome to interwebz.

    I like the motivation and success stories boards better....

    wait isn't this the motivational thread?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    Not everybody on the site is trying to lose weight. I would say we're fighting *for* health.
    Some of us aren't fighting at all. We're here for the hookers and blow.

    don't forget the porn stars and molly....wooo!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    You're on the Internet, people. Stop assuming any single one of you is more "knowledgeable" than any other. Virtually not a ONE of us is experts and most of us don't even have access to the full subscription databases that would be required to read any independent research. Even a flipping doctor on here would say he/she can't tell you SQUAT about you without examining you so it's all CONJECTURE.

    We're all idiots. All of you on a high horse jump off and go outside or do something besides recieve gratification for use of this forum. All of you getting offended recognize these people on the Internet don't matter and being offended is a waste of your time. Everyone who can present their OPINION (that's what it is, an OPINION not fact) in a nice, friendly way and accept that others have different OPINIONS continue to use this site as it is intended.

    Uhm, wait. You are saying that because this is the internet, no one is more knowledgeable than anyone else, and that no one here has expertise. That is a flawed assertion, and this isn't an opinion, it's a fact.

    didn't you know ..there are no idiots on the internet...only geniuses...
  • recesq
    recesq Posts: 154 Member
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    The fact you learned is that there is no fact....how very zen buddhist.
    And how very correct.
  • mjkpe
    mjkpe Posts: 98 Member
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    The title of this section is Motivation and Support. If you can't do that then please be quiet! No I did not read all this "information".
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    i read the original thread and you pretty much posted an article from the internet that was not really based on anything and was not even accurate as to what it pertained to contain....

    No one bashed you ..I mean some people had some fun with it ..but if you are going to start a thread then grow some big boy pants and deal with it....If you are going to post stuff that is not backed up and has been debunked then people are going to call you out..
  • GenF32
    GenF32 Posts: 184 Member
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    I forgot to add:

    People here are called rude and nasty by people who post bad information and get all offended when it gets pointed out . As is the case here.

    The "rude and nasty" people on this site deserve a medal for the work they do. If it weren't for them you'd all be listening to Dr. Oz, spending a fortune on body wraps and wondering why you're still not losing any weight.

    You mean.... Dr Oz isn't always right??!! :embarassed: :embarassed: Well, dip me in fat and call me a chip!

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