A 5 yo killed a 2yo with a gun!

twinketta

There are lots of posts on MFP with people condoning guns mainly in countries that they can buy guns `legally` for example USA..but there are others.

Just reported in the news is a 5 year old that was bought a gun by the mother as a birthday gift. the little boy shot his 2 year old sister and killed her.

The mother said she did not know the gun was loaded??? :devil:

Is it really responsible parenting to gift a small child with a gun...or any child for that matter?

Here is the link if anyone wants to read it.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/boy-5-kills-sister-2-childrens-rifle-132847373.html#0v4NWTg

It is like giving the keys to the car to an adult that is drunk.

Why on earth would you give someone a possible lethal weapon when they are clearly not responsible??

ETA typo

catrinaHwechanged

It happens pretty often actually.

This is pretty interesting to look at:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html

escloflowneCHANGED

'Murica

nrod1988

sooo sad...

theskinnylist

It happens pretty often actually.

This is pretty interesting to look at:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html

Interesting article.... I like. The shocking part for me are the regions where these shootings take place.

Oh, and that 5 y/o shooting WOULD happen in KY. Horrible.

dumb_blondes_rock

I'm not on either side of it. I believe some people should have guns, and there are people that shouldn't. But what ever happened to the "12" year old rule??? I thought little boys got bb guns or whatever little gun at 12 or 13? A 5 year old doesn't have the common sense most of the time to know what killing a person really means

Rottnme

Bad parents are... ...bad parents.

bugaha1

You can engineer all kinds of safety devices for firearms, but you cant engineer the stupid out of people.

twinketta

It happens pretty often actually.

This is pretty interesting to look at:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html

I tried to look at the link but the page is no longer available?

chels0722

I was handed my first gun at age 2.

I was brought up knowing how to properly use, clean, shoot etc...

But the first thing I was taught was to always check to see if the gun was loaded.

You bet your a** I carry concealed, and I plan to instill the same principles in my children.

If not for them, for the safety of the people around them.

EDIT: Just wanted to edit to say that it is only bad parenting if children aren't supervised or taught correctly. So in this case, yes, extremely bad parenting. Knowledge is key to prevention. If that child had been given the correct tools and information with that gun as a gift, that accident could have been entirely prevented.

catrinaHwechanged

It happens pretty often actually.

This is pretty interesting to look at:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html

I tried to look at the link but the page is no longer available?

Hmmmm....it shows up just fine on my computer. IDK?

MelsAuntie

Tragic, but not anything to do with this site.

_kannnd

You can engineer all kinds of safety devices for firearms, but you cant engineer the stupid out of people.

THIS

TwinkieDong

It happens pretty often actually.

This is pretty interesting to look at:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html

the link is this http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/
add gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting. after the last /

Its a sad day that is for sure. The parent was stupid, but I guess that is Darwinism .

However all of these types of websites and statistics are for sensationalism. They should spend their time on swimming pools, as more people drown per year than are killed with guns. Or with automobiles. I wonder where household appliances, and cleaning chemicals....rate?

edit: cant spell today...

DandelionCupcakes

I was handed my first gun at age 2.

I was brought up knowing how to properly use, clean, shoot etc...

But the first thing I was taught was to always check to see if the gun was loaded.

You bet your a** I carry concealed, and I plan to instill the same principles in my children.

If not for them, for the safety of the people around them.

I think I might love you. Please don't shoot me.

melinda200208

Parents need to be RESPONSIBLE and lock up the gun and ammo separately. Make sure the gun has no ammo in it and HIDE the key. It is unfortunate parents are not responsible for keeping the guns locked up. If you have a teenager that lives in your house that has mental disabilities, lock your gun up!!! IT should always be locked up and key hidden. I just dont get it and it irritates me. I think it is ok for children to get handed down guns or get a gun for a gift. But BE RESPONSIBLE People! Common sense!

twinketta

I was handed my first gun at age 2.

I was brought up knowing how to properly use, clean, shoot etc...

But the first thing I was taught was to always check to see if the gun was loaded.

You bet your a** I carry concealed, and I plan to instill the same principles in my children.

If not for them, for the safety of the people around them.

You can not be serious?? Handed a gun at 2 years of age??? A lot of kids are not even potty trained, they can not read/write?

what did your parents expect you to do with a gun at age of 2 years old?

catrinaHwechanged

It happens pretty often actually.

This is pretty interesting to look at:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html

the link is this http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html

Its a sad day that is for sure. The parent was stupid, but I guess that is dwarism . However all of these types of websites and statistics are for sensationalism. They should spend their time on swimming pools, as more people drown per year than are killed with guns. Or with automobiles. I wonder where household appliances, and cleaning chemicals....rate?

They are definitely sensationalist. All news is really. It's still intriguing though.

corn63

I still condone gun purchasing for law abiding citizens. It's my right as an American.

And as someone said before: Bad parenting is bad parenting. The woman is obviously a moron. Her ignorance is the contributing factor to her 2yr old being shot.

fbmandy55

This has nothing to do with guns but with the stupidity of people and parents.

This week, a 1 year old baby lost it's foot because the parents put it on an ATV (4wheeler) with the 8 year old brother. Gonna blame the ATV or the parents for doing something that stupid?

twinketta

Tragic, but not anything to do with this site.

Which is why it is posted under chit chat, fun and games. It is not site related

Sherbog

And the law enforcement officers declared it an accident. Why are the parents not charged with murder.

Christizzzle

I saw this earlier and was surprised to learn that they had "childrens guns". I had no idea.

TwinkieDong

And the law enforcement officers declared it an accident. Why are the parents not charged with murder.

news often reports ignorantly. All to get the story out and be out first as breaking news. We do not know the details of the case.

TwinkieDong

I saw this earlier and was surprised to learn that they had "childrens guns". I had no idea.

yes they sell smaller rifles, and such. This is why I think more and more gun safety should be taught.

rodneyderrick

I didn't know the gun makers made .22 caliber rifles specifically for the kiddos. I found that disheartening. I have a conceal carry permit, but that doesn't mean I condone weapons in arms reach of children.

PriceK01

Tragic, but not anything to do with this site.

Agreed, I'm here to get fit, not discuss tragic deaths, poor parenting, or gun control.

fbmandy55

I saw this earlier and was surprised to learn that they had "childrens guns". I had no idea.

yes they sell smaller rifles, and such. This is why I think more and more gun safety should be taught.

Yep. my son has had a little 'cricket' since he was 2 or 3. He is not allowed to shoot it until he is 7 and has completed hunter's education class. Just like my siblings and I all did.

chels0722

I was handed my first gun at age 2.

I was brought up knowing how to properly use, clean, shoot etc...

But the first thing I was taught was to always check to see if the gun was loaded.

You bet your a** I carry concealed, and I plan to instill the same principles in my children.

If not for them, for the safety of the people around them.

You can not be serious?? Handed a gun at 2 years of age??? A lot of kids are not even potty trained, they can not read/write?

what did your parents expect you to do with a gun at age of 2 years old?

I am serious. They believed that in a gun bearing state like MT it was imperitive that I know how to properly handle a weapon if I were to ever come across one by accident.

They weren't teaching me how to be a sniper or olympic level shot. They were trying to prevent an unneccesary accident.

My dad made special rubber bullets and casings and made sure I grew up comfortable with the fact that guns existed. He made sure that I knew how to completely disarm and unload any gun, and when I got older I learned how to use it.

I am so grateful for the knowledge he gave me. Luckily I was never faced with ann unfortunate circumstance with guns, but if I had been, I would have known how to safely handle the situation.

MassiveDelta

I was handed my first gun at age 2.

I was brought up knowing how to properly use, clean, shoot etc...

But the first thing I was taught was to always check to see if the gun was loaded.

You bet your a** I carry concealed, and I plan to instill the same principles in my children.

If not for them, for the safety of the people around them.

EDIT: Just wanted to edit to say that it is only bad parenting if children aren't supervised or taught correctly. So in this case, yes, extremely bad parenting. Knowledge is key to prevention. If that child had been given the correct tools and information with that gun as a gift, that accident could have been entirely prevented.

Exactly... Im training my teen daughters right now. Not just gun safety but carrying safety and concealed and open.

twinketta

Maybe I am a crazy parent, but I bought my 5 year old books and board games and spent time playing them. My 2 year old I played building bricks and stuff to encourage him with hand/eye co ordination.

I didn`t leave either child unsupervised at any point, they were always with an adult, so why would I need to provide them with a a gun?

I am not trying to provoke an argument, I am just asking why a responsible parent would gift a small child a gun?