Husband wants to juice!!! - I prefer he did not!!

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  • samf36
    samf36 Posts: 369 Member
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    If he is an adult he can choose what he want to consume for food.
  • m4ttcheek
    m4ttcheek Posts: 229 Member
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    Open your mind when it comes to alternative diets. There is nothing wrong with juicing. If he wants to do it, that is his choice.

    I think the best bet is to be closed minded to all of them. You can read up about a thousand "diets" and a balanced, calorie controlled diet will be better.
  • chasetwins
    chasetwins Posts: 702 Member
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    What you prefer is not relevent, you do not make his choices. Give him information that you feel is relevent to your concerns and then back off. He will make his own decision.

    While this is true - he is trying to convince me to change my thoughts on it (not very successfully) - I told him if he wants to do it..go ahead..makes my life easier since currently I am planning, weighing etc all his food. But...do it right and follow the plan. Last time he just grabbed fruits / veggies he liked and only drank that. Correct me if I am wrong but you have to incorporate all kinds of things to get at least something healthy out of it.

    I just wanted everyone's thoughts on it - since I am so closed minded to it. If it is a really bad idea I needed to know Why so I have more to say when he says.."it is not a fad diet..watch the movie". I am all set on watching a movie about dieting LOL But in my mind...other than me getting him to agree to a normal dinner he is not getting enough protein.

    He wants to start at a gym...ok awesome..but will you have enough energy source from juicing to do this?? He wants my support - and I do try (I swear) I hear him out...but I am still not convinced.
  • chasetwins
    chasetwins Posts: 702 Member
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    Open your mind when it comes to alternative diets. There is nothing wrong with juicing. If he wants to do it, that is his choice.

    I think the best bet is to be closed minded to all of them. You can read up about a thousand "diets" and a balanced, calorie controlled diet will be better.

    Precisely how I feel!
  • chasetwins
    chasetwins Posts: 702 Member
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    If he is an adult he can choose what he want to consume for food.

    tee hee this would be true...IF he did the grocery shopping ;) Mind you..yes he is an adult..a spoiled one!
  • MercenaryNoetic26
    MercenaryNoetic26 Posts: 2,747 Member
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    I bought a krups juicer like 13 yrs ago... it collects dust. I love juice but gave it up because without the fiber, I have no use for it. But thats just my preference/2¢
  • chasetwins
    chasetwins Posts: 702 Member
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    Yea...the Dr. Oz dude just had a show yesterday on it..or was it the day before yesterday....

    Honestly, the problem I have with juicing in general (unless you are using it as a supplement method and not a meal replacement) is that you take away everything about the food that you body burns calories to digest in your stomach. You lose the enzymes created in your mouth as you chew (for pre-digestion), and while it is true that your absorption "could" be quicker, I haven't seen any real evidence that your absorption would be "better" for the minerals contained within the food.

    My wife wanted to try it after watching the Oz show the other day too...I simply told her "Hey, you have a hard time staying within your MFP counts, if you try to juice you are going to be really hungry".

    I think there could be some benefits to very short term juicing, but I'm not entirely convinced that the benefits would be worth it.

    OK the point Dr Oz was recommending such a thing screams BOGUS diet immediately to me!! Maybe pointing out that he recommended it will open his eyes (he sees him as a fraud too!) LOL
  • m4ttcheek
    m4ttcheek Posts: 229 Member
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    I bought a krups juicer like 13 yrs ago... it collects dust. I love juice but gave it up because without the fiber, I have no use for it. But thats just my preference/2¢

    I had one once. It took an age to clean, so found it's way into the bin.
  • sozisraw
    sozisraw Posts: 418 Member
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    I am glad I am currently single and can eat what I want when I want without interference these days.
    I am into juicing for a couple of months now. I have never successfully only had juices all day ever, even at my
    best I have consumed salads, sprouted peas and beans and seed bars , nuts, and thick smoothies.
    I would let him do what he likes and see for himself the health benefits and what he can manage.
    My aim is to be raw vegan and I had to get back on here because its amazing the amount of calories you can consume,
    especially with a healthy appetite from fitness.

    As those into juicing say : Nobody goes into a frenzy over people eating junk food, ask them how they are going to live and
    where are they going to get there nutrients from, but juice a large quantity of vegetable and fruits, and people are freaked out!
  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
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    I think you're spot on.

    You really can't control what he does though so just be patient. It's luster is bound to wear off.
  • MercenaryNoetic26
    MercenaryNoetic26 Posts: 2,747 Member
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    I bought a krups juicer like 13 yrs ago... it collects dust. I love juice but gave it up because without the fiber, I have no use for it. But thats just my preference/2¢

    I had one once. It took an age to clean, so found it's way into the bin.

    I'm gonna sell it. It takes up space. It was dumb to buy it when all I wanted was carrot juice. Impulse purchase. They make such a mess and it's such waste of fiber. Yes and pain in the *kitten* to clean. Much prefer to blend frozen fruit into a protein shake.
  • EricMurano
    EricMurano Posts: 825 Member
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    The reason Joe Cross juiced his food was because:

    1. He had a disease that he believed was caused by a lack of certain micronutrients (vitamins and minerals)
    2. He had to eat a stack of fruit and vegetables to get these micronutrients
    3. He decided that it was easier to juice the fruit and veg and drink it. It was too much for him to eat.
    4. It was a challenge for him. He needed to kick the junk food habit. It was as close to cold turkey as you can get. You can quit smoking but you can never quit taking in nutrients.

    Note that he still took in the required amount of amount of energy from the juice. He was missing out on fibre which didn't effect digestion because he wasn't eating solids.

    If your husband is going to do this he has to know what he's doing. He has to research the concept and be sure he's not going to harm himself.
  • conniemaxwell5
    conniemaxwell5 Posts: 943 Member
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    I'll share my personal experience and my opinion. I went on a juice fast for 1 week to break my sugar habit, then went to a normal, controlled eating plan that kept me on track. I consumed 1200-1400 calories a day just from juice when I was on the "fast." Juicing continues to be a part of my eating habits because I use vegetables I wouldn't ordinarily eat much of (kale, beets, etc) so I benefit from those nutrients more.Juicing seems to reduce my cravings (may be mental, but whatever works!). I can tell a difference in how I feel when I juice and when I don't. My current calorie goal is 1447 net and I am steadily losing weight.

    He should start by calculating his TDEE and what his calorie intake should be for weight loss and shoot for that goal regardless of what he's eating or drinking. This is the truly healthy and sustainable weight loss method in my opinion, and sets the better example for your kids.
  • chasetwins
    chasetwins Posts: 702 Member
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    I am glad I am currently single and can eat what I want when I want without interference these days.
    I am into juicing for a couple of months now. I have never successfully only had juices all day ever, even at my
    best I have consumed salads, sprouted peas and beans and seed bars , nuts, and thick smoothies.
    I would let him do what he likes and see for himself the health benefits and what he can manage.
    My aim is to be raw vegan and I had to get back on here because its amazing the amount of calories you can consume,
    especially with a healthy appetite from fitness.

    As those into juicing say : Nobody goes into a frenzy over people eating junk food, ask them how they are going to live and
    where are they going to get there nutrients from, but juice a large quantity of vegetable and fruits, and people are freaked out!

    Here is my problem - I think he is doing it to drop weight fast. He has been having problems with his back and thinks his weight is to blame. He is already losing counting calories but knows he lost more that one week he tried the juicing. So my thought (fear) is that he is not doing it for the "healthy" reasons but more of a quick fix. Then when he goes back to eating food...we are back to square one.

    I am not freaking out believe me...not my style. But trying to convince him to lose the weight in a manner that he can continue for the rest of his life so he does not have to start all over in 6 months. In my mind...like I said pure juicing is just a quick fix. Convincing him to eat a sensible dinner in addition to juicing took me a bit of pressure to convince him. Mind you we have 2 - 8 year old girls. i do not under any circumstance want them to have unhealthy relationships with food so I am careful how they perceive food. Seeing their Daddy (who they copy quite often) drink his meals = unhealthy thoughts later on in life. So I got him to agree to that. Right now he says he won't on the weekend - but if he drops weight he may be intrigued to push it further. Being single without kids is one thing...being married with small children (female mind you and one already with weight issues..) is another.

    Not to mention - protein...how much protein can he get with the food he chooses to juice?? - Losing muscle is not an option.
  • acogg
    acogg Posts: 1,871 Member
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    Isn't chewing with molar teeth pretty much the same as juicing? If food is easier to swallow with juicing, I can't see what difference it makes. Isn't soup the same as juicing?
  • chasetwins
    chasetwins Posts: 702 Member
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    The reason Joe Cross juiced his food was because:

    1. He had a disease that he believed was caused by a lack of certain micronutrients (vitamins and minerals)
    2. He had to eat a stack of fruit and vegetables to get these micronutrients
    3. He decided that it was easier to juice the fruit and veg and drink it. It was too much for him to eat.
    4. It was a challenge for him. He needed to kick the junk food habit. It was as close to cold turkey as you can get. You can quit smoking but you can never quit taking in nutrients.

    Note that he still took in the required amount of amount of energy from the juice. He was missing out on fibre which didn't effect digestion because he wasn't eating solids.

    If your husband is going to do this he has to know what he's doing. He has to research the concept and be sure he's not going to harm himself.

    Thank you ! I will be sure to tell him this..all of it especially your last sentence!
  • chasetwins
    chasetwins Posts: 702 Member
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    I think you're spot on.

    You really can't control what he does though so just be patient. It's luster is bound to wear off.

    Thank you :) I am thinking it will too lol
  • BeachGingerOnTheRocks
    BeachGingerOnTheRocks Posts: 3,927 Member
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    You have to let him fail on his own. Which he will. Just when he does, be a very supportive person and don't say "I told you so." He's got to figure this out for himself. If he's on here and pays attention to the forums and what people are really saying, he'll start to get it.
  • monjacq1964
    monjacq1964 Posts: 291 Member
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    i agree that juicing is a fad. But, that being said, oddly enough, your husband is a grown up, and will do what he wants to do.
  • droneofvelvet
    droneofvelvet Posts: 290 Member
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    I think juicing can be great, but on the other hand he will probably give up after a couple of days so I wouldn't worry about it.