artificially sweetened soda gives you diabetes

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  • lizlkbg
    lizlkbg Posts: 566
    Correlation ≠ causation
  • lizlkbg
    lizlkbg Posts: 566
    I've seen more reliable experiments conducted at a children's science fair.

    :flowerforyou:
  • TX_Aggie_Dad
    TX_Aggie_Dad Posts: 173
    I think there is merit to trying to stick with putting primarily "natural" items in your body. If I can find the natural soda spring in the mountains somewhere, I'm drinking that whether it is diet or regular. :wink:
  • k8blujay2
    k8blujay2 Posts: 4,941 Member
    Now unless all of the diabetes specialists that my workplace has unleashed on us this year are totally wrong, I'm pretty sure that diabetes is caused by the gut, pancreas, and liver not working properly... As the gut produces the hormone GLP-1, which tells the pancreas how much insulin to produce, which in turn tells the liver how much sugars to produce (simplified cliff notes version from our seminars).... Pretty sure this can happen when not ever drinking diet soda too...
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  • Cadori
    Cadori Posts: 4,810 Member
    Associated, not causal. BIG difference. People who drink diet sodas are probably already overweight (known risk factor for diabetes) and also may have a family history.

    I need to leave now, I just hate it when someone makes a statement like the OP and expects us all to be sheep and just blindly believe it.

    Um, his username is SirBonerFart. Not casting troll stones, but typically with a user name like that...
  • k8blujay2
    k8blujay2 Posts: 4,941 Member
    I will not drink any soda (diet or otherwise) even if there is no link to any Diabetes type (I or II).

    That chemical stuff is bad for my body, my health and my wallet.

    To each its own

    "That chemical stuff" -- WTF? Do you ignore that chemical stuff H2O? or N2O2ArCO2NeHeCH4KrH2Xe

    :drinker: We must ban all chemicals!!!
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    Associated, not causal. BIG difference. People who drink diet sodas are probably already overweight (known risk factor for diabetes) and also may have a family history.

    I need to leave now, I just hate it when someone makes a statement like the OP and expects us all to be sheep and just blindly believe it.

    Um, his username is SirBonerFart. Not casting troll stones, but typically with a user name like that...


    Yeah, this guy is a confirmed troll. I highly doubt he believes what he posted.
  • alychil820
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  • richardheath
    richardheath Posts: 1,276 Member
    Now unless all of the diabetes specialists that my workplace has unleashed on us this year are totally wrong, I'm pretty sure that diabetes is caused by the gut, pancreas, and liver not working properly... As the gut produces the hormone GLP-1, which tells the pancreas how much insulin to produce, which in turn tells the liver how much sugars to produce (simplified cliff notes version from our seminars).... Pretty sure this can happen when not ever drinking diet soda too...

    I think there are so many factors that can lead to diabetes that epidemiological ones like this are bound to pull up something.

    And yeah - I very rarely drank soda (and never diet), was not that overweight for that long, and still managed to get prediabetes.
  • donyellemoniquex3
    donyellemoniquex3 Posts: 2,384 Member
    Everything kills you
    Everything gives you cancer
    Everthing gives you diabetes

    GET OVER IT !
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  • shimmygirl411
    shimmygirl411 Posts: 100 Member
    Agreed.......correlation does not mean causation.
  • Cadori
    Cadori Posts: 4,810 Member
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  • ducky715
    ducky715 Posts: 38
    Everything kills you
    Everything gives you cancer
    Everthing gives you diabetes

    GET OVER IT !

    This. Honestly, anything can kill you. People have made it through generations surrounded by chemicals/ consuming them so I think we'll be okay.
  • Lyerin
    Lyerin Posts: 818 Member
    I'm glad to see you guys can joke around about this stuff but diabetes is very serious problem in America

    I'm glad that you are glad. Man, we are just so glad!
  • Alison12121
    Alison12121 Posts: 198 Member
    Actually, the study doesn't say that artificially sweetened beverages give you diabetes. It says that there is an association between the artificially sweetened beverages and diabetes, and that other factors they didn't control for in the study may be involved in causing diabetes. I wouldn't be surprised if a later study proves it, but association doesn't mean that causation.

    To quote, they "cannot rule out that factors other than [artificially sweetened beverage] consumption that we did not control for are responsible for the association with diabetes, and randomized trials are required to prove a causal link between [artificially sweetened beverage] consumption and type 2 diabetes."

    Anyway, I agree with you that the artificial stuff isn't good for you, and I try to stay away from it. The FDA can say it's safe all they want, but my body just doesn't like them. Some of the artificial sweeteners give me headaches and make me nauseous, so they're definitely not good for me.
  • aakaakaak
    aakaakaak Posts: 1,240 Member
    I've seen more reliable experiments conducted at a children's science fair.

    To be fair, there are students out there getting world recognition for some of their science projects. Unfortunately, the only news link I can find right now is the student in Florida who got expelled for accidentally making a "bottle bomb".
  • haroon_awan
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  • ilmb87
    ilmb87 Posts: 216 Member
    Everything kills you
    Everything gives you cancer
    Everthing gives you diabetes

    GET OVER IT !

    LOL. Pretty much this. (I don't drink soft drinks anyway, except MAYBE a few times a year.)
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
    to quote from the study
    Both SSB(sugar-sweetened beverages) consumption and ASB(artificially sweetened beverages) consumption were associated with increased T2D(type 2 diabetes) risk.

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2013/01/30/ajcn.112.050997


    Maybe this will finally stop all you saboteurs who try to push diet soda on us

    Yes, and to quote the results of the recent InterAct study which have recently been published and which has been well designed:
    After further adjustment for energy intake and BMI, the association of sugar-sweetened soft drinks with type 2 diabetes persisted (HR 1.18, 95% CI 1.06, 1.32), but the association of artificially sweetened soft drinks became statistically not significant (HR 1.11, 95% CI 0.95, 1.31).

    In other words be careful of sugar sweetened drinks (fruit juices / full sugar sodas / power drinks) but not so much for AS...

    Full text: http://static.rasset.ie/documents/news/diabetes-sugary-drink.pdf
  • Cadori
    Cadori Posts: 4,810 Member
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  • saxmaniac
    saxmaniac Posts: 1,133 Member
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  • pobalita
    pobalita Posts: 741 Member
    I will not drink any soda (diet or otherwise) even if there is no link to any Diabetes type (I or II).

    That chemical stuff is bad for my body, my health and my wallet.

    To each its own

    this^^ I picked up a can one day and saw that every ingredient other than water was a man-made chemical. No more for me.
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    ImtheOnethatsCool Posts: 212 Member
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  • Pixi_Rex
    Pixi_Rex Posts: 1,676 Member
    Actually no... I drank 13 diet sodas ones day while sitting on my feet and I have yet to rue the day...

    But I am pretty sure it had something to do with sitting on my feet.. any other way and I probably would have gotten the diabetes.
  • pspetralia
    pspetralia Posts: 963 Member
    Now unless all of the diabetes specialists that my workplace has unleashed on us this year are totally wrong, I'm pretty sure that diabetes is caused by the gut, pancreas, and liver not working properly... As the gut produces the hormone GLP-1, which tells the pancreas how much insulin to produce, which in turn tells the liver how much sugars to produce (simplified cliff notes version from our seminars).... Pretty sure this can happen when not ever drinking diet soda too...

    QFT!! Lots of foods have been touted as the food to give you diabetes....doesn't make it so. There are many contributing factors people!!!
  • RllyGudTweetr
    RllyGudTweetr Posts: 2,019 Member
    I will not drink any soda (diet or otherwise) even if there is no link to any Diabetes type (I or II).

    That chemical stuff is bad for my body, my health and my wallet.

    To each its own

    this^^ I picked up a can one day and saw that every ingredient other than water was a man-made chemical. No more for me.
    Would you drink a liquid composed of H2O, C6H12O6, C6H8O7, with other trace chemicals naturally occuring?
  • blytheandbonnie
    blytheandbonnie Posts: 3,275 Member
    nevermind

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