artificially sweetened soda gives you diabetes

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  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
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    I will have to say since cutting out not only diet soda and all food with artificial sweetners I don't walk around feeling like I am starving all the time;
    Makes sense, what with the whole point of them being to allow you to eat similar food with less calories :).
  • TheWiseCat
    TheWiseCat Posts: 297
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    1/10 troll status.
  • missmegan831
    missmegan831 Posts: 824 Member
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    Just stopping in to say I havent drank ANY SODA in over 7 yrs and last November was told I was Type II Diabetic so I think its all a myth... drink what you want in moderation and make good lifestyle changes.
  • seamatt
    seamatt Posts: 199 Member
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    Cool story bro
  • bacitracin
    bacitracin Posts: 921 Member
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    on a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone is zero. Even if we achieved a way to reduce aging to 0, we'd all still get cancer eventually due to free radical damage.

    So have a Coke. You're gonna die anyway. Might as well do it before you catch the 'beetus. Heck, have one for me too, I'm gonna live to be 240.
  • lizlkbg
    lizlkbg Posts: 566
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    Genetics can predisposition you for diabetes...we should just rip out our pancreas and call it a day?

    but that doesn't mean diabetes has to manifest. you can lower the likelihood of that happening by how well you take care of yourself

    Type 2, yep.
    Type 1, nope.
    Distinguish.
  • triciab79
    triciab79 Posts: 1,713 Member
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    I have been drinking Diet Coke since I was 18 and I mean huge quantities of the stuff. I had sugar test done back when I was over 200lbs and I was at almost no risk of type 2 diabetes even without diet changes. Your study is just more junk "science" and you are no better than the people who were "pushing" diet soda on you. Now if you will excuse me I am going to go have another glass of the stuff in your honor.
  • Afura
    Afura Posts: 2,054 Member
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    I know a lot of people think this one is trolling, but I had read it before on a paleo forum where they had a similar topic. I'm not saying artificially sweetened soda is what gives you diabetes (dang do I have a hard time not spelling it diabeetus) but that artificial sugars can cause it, no matter what form they're in (sodas, yogurt, snack bars, etc), though I'd guess soda gets the rap as that's where it's consumed in the greatest quantities in one sitting (assumption at least). I don't ingest artificial sweetners because they seem to give me a migraine (if anything, the less sweet stuff, the better), because sugar and their artificial friends, act like sugar, aparently.

    This was an interesting long term study done (though from 2009 ) - http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/704432 (ENDO 2009: Use of Artificial Sweeteners Linked to 2-Fold Increase in Diabetes)
    Also - Artifical Sweetners May Be Worse Than Sugar for Diabetics - http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/08/09/artificial-sweeteners-worse-than-sugar.aspx
    Related studies point to the illusion of the artificial - http://www.uthscsa.edu/hscnews/singleformat2.asp?newID=3861
    And for this year - 'Diet' drinks associated with increased risk of Type II Diabetes - http://english.inserm.fr/press-area/diet-drinks-associated-with-increased-risk-of-type-ii-diabetes
  • lobo_a_gogo
    lobo_a_gogo Posts: 265 Member
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    I'm glad to see you guys can joke around about this stuff but diabetes is very serious problem in America

    Quoth "SirBonerFart"

    Your name is so hilarious that anything you say becomes hilarious. I'm sorry that I can't take any of this seriously.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
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    Just stopping in to say I havent drank ANY SODA in over 7 yrs and last November was told I was Type II Diabetic so I think its all a myth... drink what you want in moderation and make good lifestyle changes.

    but i'll bet you ate at a caloric surplus including a lot of refined white carbs, amiright?

    same thing.
  • veganstein
    veganstein Posts: 33 Member
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    They will pry my 3 daily cans of Diet Pepsi out of my cold, dead hands! Seriously, I will cut a *****.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    Just stopping in to say I havent drank ANY SODA in over 7 yrs and last November was told I was Type II Diabetic so I think its all a myth... drink what you want in moderation and make good lifestyle changes.

    but i'll bet you ate at a caloric surplus including a lot of refined white carbs, amiright?

    same thing.

    Sugars or evil white carbs don't cause diabetus. This has been debunked. The association to sugary drinks is primarily due to their caloric density and the ease at consuming a lot of extra calories through the beverage hence leading to obesity.

    http://www.diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/causes/#type2
    http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/causes/Causes_of_Diabetes_508.pdf

    For those who typically don't read sources:

    Risk Factors for Type 2 Diabetes
    People who develop type 2 diabetes are more likely to have the following characteristics:

    •age 45 or older
    •overweight or obese
    •physically inactive
    •parent or sibling with diabetes
    •family background that is African American, Alaska Native, American Indian, Asian American, Hispanic/ Latino, or Pacific Islander American
    •history of giving birth to a baby weighing more than 9 pounds
    •history of gestational diabetes
    •high blood pressure—140/90 or above—or being treated for high blood pressure
    •high-density lipoprotein (HDL), or good, cholesterol below 35 milligrams per deciliter (mg/dL), or a triglyceride level above 250 mg/dL
    •polycystic ovary syndrome, also called PCOS
    •prediabetes—an A1C level of 5.7 to 6.4 percent; a fasting plasma glucose test result of 100–125 mg/dL, called impaired fasting glucose; or a 2-hour oral glucose tolerance test result of 140–199, called impaired glucose tolerance
    •acanthosis nigricans, a condition associated with insulin resistance, characterized by a dark, velvety rash around the neck or armpits
    •history of CVD


    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/diabetes/DS01121/DSECTION=risk-factors

    http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/diabetes-myths/#x
  • AllonsYtotheTardis
    AllonsYtotheTardis Posts: 16,947 Member
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    coca cola is made up of multiple ingredients, many of which are made up of synthetic chemicals and it is not found in nature.

    clear?

    I thought Coke was brown?
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
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    Just stopping in to say I havent drank ANY SODA in over 7 yrs and last November was told I was Type II Diabetic so I think its all a myth... drink what you want in moderation and make good lifestyle changes.

    but i'll bet you ate at a caloric surplus including a lot of refined white carbs, amiright?

    same thing.

    Sugars or evil white carbs don't cause diabetus. This has been debunked. The association to sugary drinks is primarily due to their caloric density and the ease at consuming a lot of extra calories through the beverage hence leading to obesity.

    http://www.diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/causes/#type2
    http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/causes/Causes_of_Diabetes_508.pdf

    For those who typically don't read sources:

    Risk Factors for Type 2 Diabetes
    People who develop type 2 diabetes are more likely to have the following characteristics:

    •age 45 or older
    •overweight or obese
    •physically inactive
    •parent or sibling with diabetes
    •family background that is African American, Alaska Native, American Indian, Asian American, Hispanic/ Latino, or Pacific Islander American
    •history of giving birth to a baby weighing more than 9 pounds
    •history of gestational diabetes
    •high blood pressure—140/90 or above—or being treated for high blood pressure
    •high-density lipoprotein (HDL), or good, cholesterol below 35 milligrams per deciliter (mg/dL), or a triglyceride level above 250 mg/dL
    •polycystic ovary syndrome, also called PCOS
    •prediabetes—an A1C level of 5.7 to 6.4 percent; a fasting plasma glucose test result of 100–125 mg/dL, called impaired fasting glucose; or a 2-hour oral glucose tolerance test result of 140–199, called impaired glucose tolerance
    •acanthosis nigricans, a condition associated with insulin resistance, characterized by a dark, velvety rash around the neck or armpits
    •history of CVD


    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/diabetes/DS01121/DSECTION=risk-factors

    http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/diabetes-myths/#x

    yup. caloric surplus = obesity = higher risk for diabetes
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    Just stopping in to say I havent drank ANY SODA in over 7 yrs and last November was told I was Type II Diabetic so I think its all a myth... drink what you want in moderation and make good lifestyle changes.

    but i'll bet you ate at a caloric surplus including a lot of refined white carbs, amiright?

    same thing.

    Sugars or evil white carbs don't cause diabetus. This has been debunked. The association to sugary drinks is primarily due to their caloric density and the ease at consuming a lot of extra calories through the beverage hence leading to obesity.

    http://www.diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/causes/#type2
    http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/causes/Causes_of_Diabetes_508.pdf

    For those who typically don't read sources:

    Risk Factors for Type 2 Diabetes
    People who develop type 2 diabetes are more likely to have the following characteristics:

    •age 45 or older
    •overweight or obese
    •physically inactive
    •parent or sibling with diabetes
    •family background that is African American, Alaska Native, American Indian, Asian American, Hispanic/ Latino, or Pacific Islander American
    •history of giving birth to a baby weighing more than 9 pounds
    •history of gestational diabetes
    •high blood pressure—140/90 or above—or being treated for high blood pressure
    •high-density lipoprotein (HDL), or good, cholesterol below 35 milligrams per deciliter (mg/dL), or a triglyceride level above 250 mg/dL
    •polycystic ovary syndrome, also called PCOS
    •prediabetes—an A1C level of 5.7 to 6.4 percent; a fasting plasma glucose test result of 100–125 mg/dL, called impaired fasting glucose; or a 2-hour oral glucose tolerance test result of 140–199, called impaired glucose tolerance
    •acanthosis nigricans, a condition associated with insulin resistance, characterized by a dark, velvety rash around the neck or armpits
    •history of CVD


    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/diabetes/DS01121/DSECTION=risk-factors

    http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/diabetes-myths/#x

    yup. caloric surplus = obesity = higher risk for diabetes

    Where do "white carbs" come into that?
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
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    Just stopping in to say I havent drank ANY SODA in over 7 yrs and last November was told I was Type II Diabetic so I think its all a myth... drink what you want in moderation and make good lifestyle changes.

    but i'll bet you ate at a caloric surplus including a lot of refined white carbs, amiright?

    same thing.

    Sugars or evil white carbs don't cause diabetus. This has been debunked. The association to sugary drinks is primarily due to their caloric density and the ease at consuming a lot of extra calories through the beverage hence leading to obesity.

    http://www.diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/causes/#type2
    http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/causes/Causes_of_Diabetes_508.pdf

    For those who typically don't read sources:

    Risk Factors for Type 2 Diabetes
    People who develop type 2 diabetes are more likely to have the following characteristics:

    •age 45 or older
    •overweight or obese
    •physically inactive
    •parent or sibling with diabetes
    •family background that is African American, Alaska Native, American Indian, Asian American, Hispanic/ Latino, or Pacific Islander American
    •history of giving birth to a baby weighing more than 9 pounds
    •history of gestational diabetes
    •high blood pressure—140/90 or above—or being treated for high blood pressure
    •high-density lipoprotein (HDL), or good, cholesterol below 35 milligrams per deciliter (mg/dL), or a triglyceride level above 250 mg/dL
    •polycystic ovary syndrome, also called PCOS
    •prediabetes—an A1C level of 5.7 to 6.4 percent; a fasting plasma glucose test result of 100–125 mg/dL, called impaired fasting glucose; or a 2-hour oral glucose tolerance test result of 140–199, called impaired glucose tolerance
    •acanthosis nigricans, a condition associated with insulin resistance, characterized by a dark, velvety rash around the neck or armpits
    •history of CVD


    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/diabetes/DS01121/DSECTION=risk-factors

    http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/diabetes-myths/#x

    yup. caloric surplus = obesity = higher risk for diabetes

    Where do "white carbs" come into that?

    people who eat a lot of "white carbs" are more likely to eat at a surplus and are therefore more likely to have a higher risk of diabetes
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    people who eat a lot of "white carbs" are more likely to eat at a surplus and are therefore more likely to have a higher risk of diabetes

    I see
  • coal_chamber
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    Reading this as I drink a Diet Coke.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
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    people who eat a lot of "white carbs" are more likely to eat at a surplus and are therefore more likely to have a higher risk of diabetes

    I see

    i'm glad.
  • FredDoyle
    FredDoyle Posts: 2,273 Member
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    people who eat a lot of "white carbs" are more likely to eat at a surplus and are therefore more likely to have a higher risk of diabetes

    I see

    i'm glad.
    Coach logic.