boss is behaving unethically.
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I worked at a crappy hotel for a whopping 2 months one summer, and a big reason was because I discovered my boss was literally hiding things during corporate inspections-- including things like the mold in the laundry area and the constantly re-frozen and re-thawed pitiful breakfast selections-- but mainly, the fact that he was letting people "rent" hotel rooms weekly or monthly and not telling the corporate office, therefore pocketing 100% of the money from those transactions and profiting without company consent. (It's a very large economy hotel chain, but I will not say which one.)
When I submitted my 2 weeks' notice, I wrote in there that I was uncomfortable with the workplace procedures. He called me into his office and said, "Do you think you can scare me? I have a very good lawyer and I have never been proven guilty of anything in my life."
I quit on the spot, walked out and never looked back.
TL;DR get out while you can, or be prepared to go down on a sinking ship.0 -
I've left two jobs because I didn't agree with the ethics. However, I've been lucky enough to have the financial support / alternative employment opportunities to be able to do that. If you are uncomfortable with what you are doing, you should start looking around for a new job.
If they are doing things that are illegal, you should consult with an attorney to see what you should do when you leave to cut ties and relieve yourself of future liability.0 -
I really need some views on the matter.
After working on some projects in various sectors, I've seen some questionable working ethics (that can be interpreted as illegal perhaps)
Of course this affected my fitness since I'd be worrying the whole time if I'd be affected with the situation.
My question is, would you stay with your job if your boss is behaving unethically? If you choose to stay, why; if you choose not to say, why.
Hope I can get some input.
YOU S-O-B! I SWEAR, IF YOU BLOW ME IN, YOU'LL NEVER WORK IN THIS TOWN AGAIN!
^^^^ Bahahahaha!!!0 -
If you feel really strongly, you could blow the whistle. Many companies have hotlines for anonymously reporting these kinds of things. But, I would start looking for a change in job.0
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Are Human lives on stake? as in they are using cheap cement on a building or a bridge? Cause stuff like that you have to report asap to clear yourself from the potential harm/death.
Is it money? they are taking a slice of the pie that they don't deserve? This case is based on you and how you live your life. If it's too shady then start job hunting report him after you secure a safety net for self AKA another job.
Are small children or animals being abused? Did you walk in the shower and your boss was giving it to a kid? if this was the case and you had to ask you probably are dead inside and should buy a gun and practice Russian roulette with a fully loaded gun.
In the end you make the call but remember the longer you stay in the situation the more you become part of it.0 -
Definitely need more details to give you the advice you are looking for!0
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If it is truly illegal I would leave immediately. I realize that you may need your job for bills etc. but besides effecting your health staying may somehow make you somewhat of an accomplice or if found out it could get you in trouble for not reporting it.
I would need to have a job to support myself but I would take ANY job (until something better comes along) in place of working for a place that may be doing things "unethical" and possibly illegal.
Take care and I wish you the best of luck in whatever decision you make.0 -
"Of course" it affected your fitness? Sounds like you're just looking for a reason to post the question on this site.
Not everything here is about fitness. Did you see the girl who wants to be asked to Spring Fling?
Just own it.
omg-give me a break! Finding it hard just to be nice? Or are you just using this post as an excuse to be your rude self? Geez!
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"Of course" it affected your fitness? Sounds like you're just looking for a reason to post the question on this site.
Not everything here is about fitness. Did you see the girl who wants to be asked to Spring Fling?
Just own it.
omg-give me a break! Finding it hard just to be nice? Or are you just using this post as an excuse to be your rude self? Geez!
I said it was fine that it's not about fitness and fine to be honest about that.
It would be helpful if you could explain how it is rude to state that someone should be honest about their intentions.0 -
I had a problem, but it wasn't with my boss. It was with another coworker.
Sending me mail (how he got my address is unknown to me), buying me lavish gifts... I was 19 at the time, he was 57. I kept everything as evidence and we actually have cameras at work and they caught him trying to get close to me while on duty (was trying to hug me, but I'm sorry, I didn't ask for it!)
Needless to say he was fired. It took me a year of fighting with the company to believe me. The 1st HR manager told me to stop lying and making up stories. Once she left, I went to the new HR manager. She believed me (I guess I wasn't the first employee he was trying to make nice with).
He was fired on the spot. Without much detail on yours, it's hard to say if it's unethical and illegal (two different things). My advice - start looking around for another job. but don't quit, unless it is impacting your health drastically. You don't want to quit unless you have to, you won't get unemployment. And we all have bills and things, unless your significant other makes enough money, then you can shop around for a job for a bit.
Again, without details, I can't really tell you what to do or give good advice.0 -
I was told by my business law professor that everyone has a price and will cross that ethical line for that price. Make sure your price is high enough you can get out of the country.
I do know that certain fields such as accounting or attorneys or auditors have a legal obligation to report such unethical behavior. It is also my understanding that whistleblowing is supposed to remain anonymous. If that happens, I do not know. But I would definitely be (A) searching for a new job, (B) requesting written instructions from a supervisor to perform what could be determined illegal, (C) checking into unemployment laws regarding quitting a job due to work environment conditions.0 -
"Of course" it affected your fitness? Sounds like you're just looking for a reason to post the question on this site.
Not everything here is about fitness. Did you see the girl who wants to be asked to Spring Fling?
Just own it.
omg-give me a break! Finding it hard just to be nice? Or are you just using this post as an excuse to be your rude self? Geez!
The fact that you interpreted that as rude is a little sad. Bluntness != Rudeness.0 -
Keep your head down. Don't do anything unethical, and either transfer out of the unit your in, or look for something else. Document everything, and once your out of there or close to it take it to HR and leave with your head held high. You don't own his or her bad behavior, don't use it as a scapegoat to derail your workouts or eating. Good luck!0
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In the end you make the call but remember the longer you stay in the situation the more you become part of it.
This ^^ And also
This ^^I was told by my business law professor that everyone has a price and will cross that ethical line for that price. Make sure your price is high enough you can get out of the country.
I have left several jobs and refused a couple too because of my personal ethics. I guess it just depends whats happening. Everyone's threshold is different regarding what they will put up with when it comes to un-ethical behavior so in the end if it is bothering you then take all steps to CYA (cover your *kitten*) and get out.0 -
1) Document EVERYTHING. Keep copies outside of work.
2) Go to HR/Legal and share your concerns. Document those conversations, confirming the documentation with the other party.
3) Search for new job. Do NOT use your boss' unethical behavior as your "reason for seeking a new position" when you are interviewing.
4) I understand how conflict like this can impact your fitness; can you turn it to fueling your fitness instead?0 -
I think it depends on how unethical. Is he stealing paperclips or stealing millions of dollars. Obviously it could be neither, but is it a really big deal of are you giving more thought to this than is wise?0
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I've been in this situation at previous jobs, boss paying me cash to cover for him and taking money out of the company to pay for personal things like lunches and such. Best thing to do is keep a record of everything so you have a running tally of anything that makes you feel uncomfortable. If he is indited or whatever you can always plead ignorance or have this record to help clear your name, saying you were unsure about what was best to do.
I stayed in my job because I needed the money and just got so apathetic that it didn't bother me [bad attitude to have and I'm glad I got out of it!] So if you need to stay in it until you find a new one, just document it everything you can and if something happens you can always be honest and tell your boss that you have a record of his unethical behavior that you will release to his boss without hesitation.0 -
As a lawyer, I will say that you should get yourself an employment lawyer, pronto.0
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Sniches get stitches....0
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4) I understand how conflict like this can impact your fitness;
I really appreciate this. Thank you very much.0 -
One word: Document! Get yourself a work journal and document every conversation, observation, and keep it in the event that you need it.0
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Check the applicable whistle blower laws and see if you can retire on the reward. If not, suck it up and find another job.0
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kill him/her, unless they are hot. If so, sex them THEN kill them.0
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No I would not. I've been around a long time and depending on the nature of the unethical behavior would determine my decision of course but if I felt it was aggregious I would seek new employment immediately. If there is an HR department and you really feel that the boss crossed the company ethical line, I would report it. that's just me but I despise people who think the rules don't apply to them. Good luck!0
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Lawyers are the biggest crooks out there. The profession itself should be unethical.As a lawyer, I couldn't stay if my boss were behaving unethically. Ultimately, that would likely come down on my license as well.
Without knowing more specifics though it's hard for people to tell you. Usually if your gut tells you something is off it probably is.
Since I'm practically unethical, I would gather as much evidence as possible and blackmail the crap out of him.
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I had that same issue a few years ago and I had to quit. I work in the legal field an unethical behavior that borders on illegal behavior is not something you want attached to your name. You just have to decide what you can risk...0
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A long time ago, I started a new job and was in training class with several guys, who were nice guys, but were young and immature. When we moved from the training room to the "production floor" phase of training, they were checking out and "rating" some of the women based on looks. I asked them to please not do that around me (nicely, not like an evil witch) and from that point on they did not. A few weeks later, they were all fired for sexual harassment because it was reported by someone else. I was pulled into HR as a witness and almost lost my job because I was aware of the situation but didn't report it myself. The only thing that saved my job was the fact that after I asked them not to do that around me, they didn't, so I could honestly swear that I was not aware that it was ongoing.
The point to that story is that when the crap hits the fan, people who are aware will usually get hit with it also. I would either report it and handle the storm, or find a new job.0 -
It really depends on the behavior you're referring to. I really don't care what other people do as long as it doesn't affect me.
and with that attitude, that's how 6 million Jews died during the Holocaust. . . .0 -
It really depends on the behavior you're referring to. I really don't care what other people do as long as it doesn't affect me.
and with that attitude, that's how 6 million Jews died during the Holocaust. . . .
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