"American" food

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  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
    don't start having a go at Angel delight.

    Here's what's in an American aisle in Britain http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/browse/default.aspx?N=4294697392&Ne=4294793660
    I've never seen most of that in the shops here, lol. On page 1, the only thing I recognised was the Quaker Oats. So weird.
  • debrag12
    debrag12 Posts: 1,071 Member
    don't start having a go at Angel delight.

    Here's what's in an American aisle in Britain http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/browse/default.aspx?N=4294697392&Ne=4294793660
    I've never seen most of that in the shops here, lol. On page 1, the only thing I recognised was the Quaker Oats. So weird.

    neither have I, only ever online
  • BeachGingerOnTheRocks
    BeachGingerOnTheRocks Posts: 3,927 Member
    I just got back from the grocery store, and I happen to live in an area of the state where there are a lot of Brits. The food in the British section of the grocery store :sick: . Except for the Indian food selections that are imported from the UK, of course.
    What kind of stuff do you even see in a "British" aisle? All I can think of that is wholly British and not an import from a colony, are proper mustard, marmite, Earl Grey tea and Sausage Rolls.

    The British aisle has mostly digestive biscuits, marmite, some canned potted meat looking stuff, some jarred meat looking stuff, 33 kinds of mustard, something pickled, a ton of Indian curry sauces (that are pretty decent), several kinds of horseradish sauce, spotted **** that's on a counter so full of preservatives, another kind of pudding without raisins, and a bunch of crackers.

    The point is, if all you know of American food is the crap you see in your grocery store, or the fast food joints that the rest of the world seems to love, then you have no idea what American food even is. Obviously I don't think Brits live off marmite smeared on digestive biscuits with some curry sauce thrown in for good measure, but that's what the impression is based on what's imported.

    ETA: Maybe I should have said Spotted Richard. Ugh.
  • pcastagner
    pcastagner Posts: 1,606 Member
    I just got back from the grocery store, and I happen to live in an area of the state where there are a lot of Brits. The food in the British section of the grocery store :sick: . Except for the Indian food selections that are imported from the UK, of course.
    What kind of stuff do you even see in a "British" aisle? All I can think of that is wholly British and not an import from a colony, are proper mustard, marmite, Earl Grey tea and Sausage Rolls.

    Treacle, spotted dïck
  • laurenz2501
    laurenz2501 Posts: 839 Member
    I'm from Germany and we invented apple pie! But you see brats more often than hotdogs here.

    I thought so too but....


    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1862315,00.html

    Apparently most fruit pies hail from England. Hm.
  • WhaddoWino
    WhaddoWino Posts: 146 Member
    I'm an American who previously lived in Europe, currently lives in the Middle East, and will soon live in South East Asia.

    I will be back in the US in a few weeks and the American food I can't wait to eat includes:
    Barbecue! Baby back ribs, pulled, pork, and beef brisket
    Beautiful fresh BLUEBERRIES
    Bing cherries
    Sweet Silver Queen corn
    Heirloom tomatoes fresh off the vine
    Maryland crabs
    Northern California oysters
    A great Philly cheese steak
    Ice cold micro-brewed IPA
    and....
    Single vineyard wines from California and Oregon!
  • BeachGingerOnTheRocks
    BeachGingerOnTheRocks Posts: 3,927 Member
    Hershey's candy can't be sold here as chocolate as it has too little cocoa in it. It also tastes and smells like sick to us.
    Having traveled to Europe and tasted REAL chocolate, I have to agree. Nothing like Belgium chocolates, Ritter Sport, and other European chocolates. I would blow a whole day's worth of calories on some good quality chocolate. But not a Hershey bar.

    All of these chocolates are available in most US grocery stores. Plus Endangered Species, Scharfenburger, Perugina, etc., etc.

    Most of the worlds best chocolates now come from San Francisco. American chocolates win all sorts of awards. Anyone ever heard of Vosges? That's from Chicago, and it's among the world's best.
  • keem88
    keem88 Posts: 1,689 Member
    i think it is interesting to see how different cultures can sort of blend, and how something that is the same food can be prepared differently elsewhere.
    i am from american, born and raised in new york. there are a lot of diverse foods here, but i think that i would agree on smores definitely being an american thing! also the cheap regular hotdogs too, we seem to eat them all year round here (well, i don't i'm a vegetarian lol but i know other people do), espeically because they are quick and cheap, and kids usually love them. it's interesting to see the different "hot dogs" in other countries (those prolly taste better too!)
  • debrag12
    debrag12 Posts: 1,071 Member
    Hershey's candy can't be sold here as chocolate as it has too little cocoa in it. It also tastes and smells like sick to us.
    Having traveled to Europe and tasted REAL chocolate, I have to agree. Nothing like Belgium chocolates, Ritter Sport, and other European chocolates. I would blow a whole day's worth of calories on some good quality chocolate. But not a Hershey bar.

    All of these chocolates are available in most US grocery stores. Plus Endangered Species, Scharfenburger, Perugina, etc., etc.

    Most of the worlds best chocolates now come from San Francisco. American chocolates win all sorts of awards. Anyone ever heard of Vosges? That's from Chicago, and it's among the world's best.

    never heard of Vosges, reminds me of a shampoo
  • keem88
    keem88 Posts: 1,689 Member
    Hershey's candy can't be sold here as chocolate as it has too little cocoa in it. It also tastes and smells like sick to us.
    Having traveled to Europe and tasted REAL chocolate, I have to agree. Nothing like Belgium chocolates, Ritter Sport, and other European chocolates. I would blow a whole day's worth of calories on some good quality chocolate. But not a Hershey bar.

    All of these chocolates are available in most US grocery stores. Plus Endangered Species, Scharfenburger, Perugina, etc., etc.

    Most of the worlds best chocolates now come from San Francisco. American chocolates win all sorts of awards. Anyone ever heard of Vosges? That's from Chicago, and it's among the world's best.

    i think the hersheys goes along with other foods that are similar, just not as good. like comparing a cheap store brand hot dog to something like a brat or all beef sausage/hot dog. obviously there are different quality ones, and also different ways to make them based on how much it costs the manufacturer. there are a lot of other good chocolates here though (in new york anyway), and hershey or the store brand usually is the cheaper "milk chocolate" to purchase, but there are definitely better ones out there, a lot which are made here in the us
  • Lupercalia
    Lupercalia Posts: 1,857 Member
    don't start having a go at Angel delight.

    Here's what's in an American aisle in Britain http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/browse/default.aspx?N=4294697392&Ne=4294793660

    I haven't even seen most of that stuff in the US. But I suppose one would have to be looking for it. I recognise a lot of the candy, as I spent lots of time in the candy aisle....:blushing:
  • claritarejoice
    claritarejoice Posts: 461 Member
    An international person here now living in the US: one thing I think of as American is midwestern food. Casserole to me is American. Jello salad. Fried cheese balls are big in Wisconsin I heard. Scalloped potatoes, sheperd's pie. Buffalo wings are definitely American because they were invented by the Anchor Bar in Buffalo New York in 1964. Peanut butter is pretty American - when I've lived overseas everyone wanted peanut butter from the US.

    To me, some food that is thought of as Southern seems to have roots in African food, which is cool. Blackeyed peas, collard greens, grits, okra, and other things are similar to West African foods - introduced to the US by slaves.

    That American food aisle in the British store is hilarious. Lots of pop tarts and candy, jello and peanut butter - makes sense.
  • pcastagner
    pcastagner Posts: 1,606 Member
    Hershey's candy can't be sold here as chocolate as it has too little cocoa in it. It also tastes and smells like sick to us.
    Having traveled to Europe and tasted REAL chocolate, I have to agree. Nothing like Belgium chocolates, Ritter Sport, and other European chocolates. I would blow a whole day's worth of calories on some good quality chocolate. But not a Hershey bar.

    All of these chocolates are available in most US grocery stores. Plus Endangered Species, Scharfenburger, Perugina, etc., etc.

    Most of the worlds best chocolates now come from San Francisco. American chocolates win all sorts of awards. Anyone ever heard of Vosges? That's from Chicago, and it's among the world's best.

    i think the hersheys goes along with other foods that are similar, just not as good. like comparing a cheap store brand hot dog to something like a brat or all beef sausage/hot dog. obviously there are different quality ones, and also different ways to make them based on how much it costs the manufacturer. there are a lot of other good chocolates here though (in new york anyway), and hershey or the store brand usually is the cheaper "milk chocolate" to purchase, but there are definitely better ones out there, a lot which are made here in the us

    New York has the BEST hot dogs, and they are easy to find. All those "papaya" places have them, with good mustard, decent kraut, and that hot onion stuff. They are manufactured by sabrett and have a natural casing. A proper dog snaps when you bite into it.

    It's pretty close to a "wiener", but has more spices.

    The ones from grays papaya are actually superior to the ones you get from Coney Island
  • Deipneus
    Deipneus Posts: 1,854 Member
    Just curious...

    So, being the US we always hear phrases like "As American as apple pie" and I just saw a Ballpark Frank commercial where dude said "you don't get more American than Ball Park franks!"
    It's an interesting question. I'm American and "American as apple pie" is just an ancient saying that is no longer true, like calling baseball "America's pastime" which it hasn't been for many decades. I can't remember the last time I had apple pie, or a hot dog for that matter.
  • Ms_Chai
    Ms_Chai Posts: 86 Member
    don't start having a go at Angel delight.

    Here's what's in an American aisle in Britain http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/browse/default.aspx?N=4294697392&Ne=4294793660
    I've never seen most of that in the shops here, lol. On page 1, the only thing I recognised was the Quaker Oats. So weird.

    So, considering that, maybe the British view of "American" food may not be all that accurate either. What the average person actually eats in his/her home here in the US is not as disgusting or pathetic as some people seem to believe.
  • BrittanyNBuchanan
    BrittanyNBuchanan Posts: 68 Member
    I'm an American and I don't eat any of the crap found in fast food places. The smell of those places turns my stomach. Most of my meals are home cooked from scratch based on old family recipes and recipes from all around the world. I like fresh, healthy food with interesting flavors. You don't find that in the pre-packaged garbage aisles in the grocery stores. It certainly takes more effort, but isn't really any more expensive. When I think of American food, I don't think of McDonald's - that's factory food. I think of homecooked things like barbequed chicken and grilled corn on the cob. :flowerforyou:

    Oh thank you! I thought I was the only one who avoids McDonalds. I can't stand the stuff. I cook three meals a day, at home. Everyday. And F.Y.I. to all the Brits, not every American likes "hot dogs". If I eat something like that, it's a brat from the Germany "economy".
  • debrag12
    debrag12 Posts: 1,071 Member
    An international person here now living in the US: one thing I think of as American is midwestern food. Casserole to me is American. Jello salad. Fried cheese balls are big in Wisconsin I heard. Scalloped potatoes, sheperd's pie. Buffalo wings are definitely American because they were invented by the Anchor Bar in Buffalo New York in 1964.

    To me, some food that is thought of as Southern seems to have roots in African food, which is cool. Blackeyed peas, collard greens, grits, okra, and other things are similar to West African foods - introduced to the US by slaves.

    shepherds/cottage pie comes from Ireland,
  • debrag12
    debrag12 Posts: 1,071 Member
    Yes I think of fast food but also 'soul' food
  • chatogal
    chatogal Posts: 436 Member
    kraft dinner!!! Now THAT is American...oh and rootbeer :-)
  • BrittanyNBuchanan
    BrittanyNBuchanan Posts: 68 Member
    When I first read the OP , especially the part about the advertiser claiming nothing was more American I thought it was quite amusing that what was declared American was a food which literally translated means "from Frankfurt" ie Germany.

    Then I though about it a little more and though it was fitting as a reminder that American as a nationality is not a homogeneous entity since the native population is a minority.

    Putting aside fast food, my understanding of home cooked American food is that its regional variations are less to do with what grows in the area than with the origin of the people who settled in the area in the first place. So some areas will have a cuisine which resembles that of Eastern Europe, others have a more Mediterranean feel, others have a distinctively Northern Europe style, some have some French or African influences (gumbo anybody?).

    My question to the American posters would be, are there any native dishes which are considered "as American as apple pie" since it's not a cuisine I am familiar with at all?

    There are some foods that we(my family) consider "tribal", but they never have a name. We are what people call Native American, and we eat a lot with the tribe. But that is us, everywhere else? Who knows?
  • jen_zz
    jen_zz Posts: 1,011 Member
    This thread is interesting.

    I am from Hong Kong and lived in the US (Los Angeles) and UK (London) and Switzerland (Zurich) throughout my life.

    What I find very American is S'mores (no idea what that was until I got to my first bonfire (also new to me) during freshman year!)

    Mac and cheese is also very American, especially the neon yellow processed kind that seem to be the college student staple.

    My fav "American" thing is Pumpkin Pie!! Never heard of it until my first Thanksgiving dinner with my American college roommate. That stuff is AMAZING.

    Went to Texas / Florida and had grits and tater tots etc very "Southern" American to me.


    Back here in HK when you say apple pies people think of the McDonalds' apple pies. People aren't really into hot dogs here, might eat one in the cinema though.
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    don't start having a go at Angel delight.

    Here's what's in an American aisle in Britain http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/browse/default.aspx?N=4294697392&Ne=4294793660
    I've never seen most of that in the shops here, lol. On page 1, the only thing I recognised was the Quaker Oats. So weird.

    Being an American in America I don't know much on that list aside from Quaker and the original Lucky Charms cereal (I ate as a child). ETA: I do know poptarts but haven't had those since I was a child.

    I grew up with brats, lutefisk, lefse etc. Midwestern staples like meat and potatoes. Burgers and corn on the grill. Potato soup. Cheese. Now where I live I can't find good cheese or brats (or brat buns at all) or lefse but I can find all kinds of great Mexican foods and Greek/Mediterranean places. It really depends on where you are in America. It varies so much by region. When i cook at home I make all kinds of stuff from meat and potatoes to Asian influenced to Mediterranean. I like a little bit of everything.
  • debrag12
    debrag12 Posts: 1,071 Member
    now grits are a horrible American thing sorry
  • scookiemonster
    scookiemonster Posts: 175 Member
    don't start having a go at Angel delight.

    Here's what's in an American aisle in Britain http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/browse/default.aspx?N=4294697392&Ne=4294793660
    I've never seen most of that in the shops here, lol. On page 1, the only thing I recognised was the Quaker Oats. So weird.

    So, considering that, maybe the British view of "American" food may not be all that accurate either. What the average person actually eats in his/her home here in the US is not as disgusting or pathetic as some people seem to believe.

    Yes, exactly. Just as anything we get here from your country is going to be a processed, packaged version, the same is true for anything you're getting that's called "American." As in any other country, the real food that represents our culture is the food that is lovingly made from fresh ingredients, not the **** you get in a box at the supermarket or from McDonald's.

    Of course it's possible to eat healthy here. Of course you can get food here that's flavorful and fresh and healthy and crafted with genuine love and care. In the time I've spent in Europe, I've even some delicious, fresh food, but I've eaten things here at home that are just as good. It's just different, which is what makes eating when you travel so much fun.

    I think it's also important to remember that the US is a gigantic country, and that food varies hugely from region to region. Travel from New York to Maine to North Carolina to Texas to California and you'll get vastly different (and equally delicious) foods in each place. The idea that one item or type of food represents the food in this country as a whole is extremely limiting.

    It's definitely a "don't knock it until you've tried it" kind of situation. I suppose some of the foods people have listed here are things we only really do here in the US - peanut butter and jelly, s'mores, etc... but those are things that mostly are eaten by children or as a treat. Try them some time - they're good - but it's not what I think of when I think of American food. I think of the regional specialties that are never as good anywhere else as they are when you sit down at a table in a place where it's made fresh and sourced locally.
  • runlilyrun
    runlilyrun Posts: 140
    I'm from Germany and we invented apple pie! But you see brats more often than hotdogs here.

    I thought so too but....


    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1862315,00.html

    Apparently most fruit pies hail from England. Hm.

    I think you invented your Apfelstrudel which is different to what I'd call an apple pie. (I love them both though!!!)
  • pcastagner
    pcastagner Posts: 1,606 Member
    now grits are a horrible American thing sorry

    You're obviously eating them wrong.
  • pandorakick
    pandorakick Posts: 901 Member
    I'm from Germany and we invented apple pie! But you see brats more often than hotdogs here.
    I'm from the Netherlands and pretty sure apple pie was invented by the Dutch :wink:
  • debrag12
    debrag12 Posts: 1,071 Member
    now grits are a horrible American thing sorry

    You're obviously eating them wrong.

    I had them for breakfast in a diner, we don't have to all like them.
  • caterpillardreams
    caterpillardreams Posts: 476 Member
    Didn't realize this thread was a american food bashing thread, are the Brits in any position to criticize, really now!


    Exactly
    I mean we are not perfect by any means, but wow, when people get a chance to bash America they find something and run with it.
    Whatever, I love my country and I am proud.

    I love Apple Pie, I love Hot Dogs, I love Food, and what is cool is we can get all kinds of food here,

    I am first generation American so I grew up eating mostly Spanish food,
    I think America is different for everyone depending where you live and where you grew up. I grew up in The Bronx and Manhattan where everywhere I went was Spanish food, I did not grow up eating Apple pie.

    And Mcdonalds is Not a restaurant its a fast food place. People just make things up/
  • MelsAuntie
    MelsAuntie Posts: 2,833 Member
    US food has to have a brand name and is generally yellow or beige - that's an impression from the UK.

    Apple (and other) fruit pies probably went to America from the UK or Europe back in the day. I doubt it was a Native American thing. I have no more idea what a s'more is than a sophomore. Sounds like a genetic mutation or a body shape.

    Hershey's candy can't be sold here as chocolate as it has too little cocoa in it. It also tastes and smells like sick to us.

    We now have Subway, but nobody knows WTF a "sub" is - to us it's an underwater warship. While Subway may be about the healthiest thing you can find in Florida it's about the opposite here.

    McDonalds is the most obvious manifestation of "American Food", I went to the first (and then only) McD nr Leicester Sq in London in about 1978, but now they're everywhere.

    Hot dogs are here, but aren't especially popular. We have whole streets of fried chicken joints waiting to serve greasy yellow food to people falling out of vertical drinking establishments in the town centres, but we can't really blame them on the US even if some of them put "Southern" in their name and have Stars & Stripes emblems.

    Finally, I always laugh to myself when I hear McDonalds or KFC described as a "restaurant" LOL. Here a restaurant is a place that serves propoer food, what US might call "fine dining". McDonalds is a burger joint. Cheap food is sold in a cafe or "greasy spoon".

    A s'more ( as in, give me s'more) is two graham crackers stacked with Hersheys chocolate and marshmallows. I think they're disgusting. Especially toasted over a campfire until it melts into an overly sweet gooey mess.