50 shades of grey!

You know, anyone who has a snide or nasty remark to make about the books people read should just keep it to themselves. Most books are meant to entertain and that is probably what 50 Shades did for most people. Some of us may not like what you read but you don't see us bashing you. You are of course entitled to your opinion but man, you could be a little nicer about it. Okay, so you didn't like the book. We got it. LOL

"bashing you"? Please don't take my post personally. I'm not bashing "you", I'm giving out my opinion in a public forum. I love reading and literature and in my opinion the book is trash and this has absolutely nothing to do with you, your likes, your enjoyment of the book..etc etc.

You will find that a lot of people have purchased the book to see what the fuss was about, but for every positive review, there is one person who hated it.

It's a bit like marmite. I love it, but if you hate it, please feel free to say it tastes of poo, it has nothing to do with me and it won't affect my enjoyment of it on hot buttered toast!

(except I really should stay clear of the butter right now haha).

^Took the words right out of my mouth.

Also, yes, books are meant to entertain, but books--like TV shows, video games, and movies--also have a profound affect on the human mind. Writers have the right to publish whatever they want, but personally, I also believe in narrative integrity. A book can still be entertaining--in fact, I'd wager it would be more entertaining--if the proper research is executed and more effort is put into a plausible premise. If that had been done, you probably wouldn't be hearing my complaints. The reality of the matter, however, is that 50 Shades does not present a plausible premise, and then follows that up with a relationship full of unsafe practices--things that the BDSM community as a whole has firmly stated would never happen in a sane and consensual BDSM relationship--and then establishes that as "normal". If James called it as it was, okay. If she meant it as irony, okay. But she meant neither of those things. She's just a bad writer, and it's easy to open fire on such a weak narrative when the prose itself is riddled with such cringe-worthy phrases as "My inner goddess is doing the merengue with some salsa moves."

Feel free to bash what I read. I won't take it personally. I'd like to think that most of my reading material is more easily defensible than 50 Shades of Grey, but I suppose you never know. :flowerforyou:

I enjoyed the books, some of the repetition was tiresome, but I did like the content and was entertained. If you are someone that picks every book you read apart then you wouldn't like these books. But if you can look past the writing style and just enjoy the content I think it was pretty entertaining. Obviously it isn't that horrible since it is selling so well and they are looking to make it into a movie.

Just because the masses are buying it doesn't mean it's not horrible. Especially since it's a self-perpetuating cycle: people keep buying it because people keep talking about it. The number of sales it makes says nothing about its quality.

You know, anyone who has a snide or nasty remark to make about the books people read should just keep it to themselves. Most books are meant to entertain and that is probably what 50 Shades did for most people. Some of us may not like what you read but you don't see us bashing you. You are of course entitled to your opinion but man, you could be a little nicer about it. Okay, so you didn't like the book. We got it. LOL

"bashing you"? Please don't take my post personally. I'm not bashing "you", I'm giving out my opinion in a public forum. I love reading and literature and in my opinion the book is trash and this has absolutely nothing to do with you, your likes, your enjoyment of the book..etc etc.

You will find that a lot of people have purchased the book to see what the fuss was about, but for every positive review, there is one person who hated it.

It's a bit like marmite. I love it, but if you hate it, please feel free to say it tastes of poo, it has nothing to do with me and it won't affect my enjoyment of it on hot buttered toast!

(except I really should stay clear of the butter right now haha).

^Took the words right out of my mouth.

Also, yes, books are meant to entertain, but books--like TV shows, video games, and movies--also have a profound affect on the human mind. Writers have the right to publish whatever they want, but personally, I also believe in narrative integrity. A book can still be entertaining--in fact, I'd wager it would be more entertaining--if the proper research is executed and more effort is put into a plausible premise. If that had been done, you probably wouldn't be hearing my complaints. The reality of the matter, however, is that 50 Shades does not present a plausible premise, and then follows that up with a relationship full of unsafe practices--things that the BDSM community as a whole has firmly stated would never happen in a sane and consensual BDSM relationship--and then establishes that as "normal". If James called it as it was, okay. If she meant it as irony, okay. But she meant neither of those things. She's just a bad writer, and it's easy to open fire on such a weak narrative when the prose itself is riddled with such cringe-worthy phrases as "My inner goddess is doing the merengue with some salsa moves."

Feel free to bash what I read. I won't take it personally. I'd like to think that most of my reading material is more easily defensible than 50 Shades of Grey, but I suppose you never know. :flowerforyou:

I enjoyed the books, some of the repetition was tiresome, but I did like the content and was entertained. If you are someone that picks every book you read apart then you wouldn't like these books. But if you can look past the writing style and just enjoy the content I think it was pretty entertaining. Obviously it isn't that horrible since it is selling so well and they are looking to make it into a movie.

Just because the masses are buying it doesn't mean it's not horrible. Especially since it's a self-perpetuating cycle: people keep buying it because people keep talking about it. The number of sales it makes says nothing about its quality.

I love the entire series! Mmmm Christian Grey

edited to say:

I'm not saying it's a piece of literary art, but it is pretty great erotica/romance in my opinion

It made me touch myself "down there".

"bites lip*

I love the entire series! Mmmm Christian Grey

edited to say:

I'm not saying it's a piece of literary art, but it is pretty great erotica/romance in my opinion

So abusiv relationships,the kind women go to shelters to get away from turns you on? Im not even talking about the really really bad writing,im talking about the fact that he stalks her,tells her what to eat,controls pretty much her whole life. Can you please tell me how that has anything to do with romance?

The Sleeping Beauty series by A.N. Roquelaire (Anne Rice) very smutty

^^^^^^ What she said....I read those about 10 years ago. Kinda like 50 shades, but a little more hard core.

I love the entire series! Mmmm Christian Grey

edited to say:

I'm not saying it's a piece of literary art, but it is pretty great erotica/romance in my opinion

So abusiv relationships,the kind women go to shelters to get away from turns you on? Im not even talking about the really really bad writing,im talking about the fact that he stalks her,tells her what to eat,controls pretty much her whole life. Can you please tell me how that has anything to do with romance?

It's about Dom/sub relationships, which in his other ones the girls sign a contract. They have the option of not signing it, and have the option to put their hard limits in as well. Which is something she did, about the food and a few other things. She also lets him know that while she cares for him, she doesn't want to be beaten harshly and is into learning and playing, just on a lesser level than he's used to. Which is he comes to turn with, even though it's his sexual desire to do so.

I like kink in the bedroom, I find no problem with it at all if there are open lines of communication. An abusive relationship and a kink relationship are two very different things. And there are parts I wasn't to keen on (the tampon part was a little disgusting for my tastes), but I realize everyone has different tastes and so should you.