bad eating with decent results?

My main concern in reading this was protein and then sodium, I pretty much eat around my protein not then fill in with what ever I want to eat, I do eat a good bit of vegetables several times a week, but if I feel like I'm slacking on micros I take my vitamins for a couple of days.
If your just wanting to lose weight, a moderate deficient with or without exercise will do it assuming there are no health issues preventing it, but if you want to get healthier/stronger/maintain or gain lean tissue protein is very important. My protein goal is greater than 100grams per day, that's my mental goal, I usually get close if not surpass it since I've started paying attention to it. Also I would recommend drinking a good bit of water to flush out excess sodium.
Overall my answer is yes I think you can lose weight, but I don't know how well you'll be feeling or what you will be doing to your health in general and I think adding exercise is good for everyone and you'll probably at least be better off than you would be without the exercise.
Bottom line.. Protein=yum ; )

Thankyou, you didnt sound at all nasty lol
I have protein shake after big workouts, I chose cornflakes as it is high in protein. I drink two sport bottles of water a day, i am better off exercising as changing eating habbits has only gotten me this far.
As you can see in my profile pic, it can be achieved, i have proven this, i just lost my 30 minute walk a day and went backwards. When i became serious about losing the rest I then was stunted and it refusing to budge.

I must have been editing as you were replying! I have the backslide after summer's over every year, I've always been heavier in the winter months usually cut calories excessively in the summer while increasing my exercise(from summer activities-I'm such a summer baby), which is why I'm here! I want my previous summer weight all the time! Plus a bit toner, but I've never been a dieter I'm eating more now but getting my protein and I'm a resistance training junky lol.

I'll never criticise someone who eats loads of crap (but oh so tasty) food. As someone who had a similar diet for years and never gained a lb from it, I should warn you, your body will start to pack in on you in the next ten or so years and then you'll find it bloody impossible to lose weight when it goes on like never before - oh and you'll likely be sick all the time.

I have a whole host of health problems that affect my metabolism and I'm sad to have to admit that my diet growing up and into adulthood is likely to be a huge causative factor. I was never above a size UK12 until I had a child 3 years ago and the shock of pregnancy on a malnourished (but not skinny) body really took its toll. I'm now an 18-20 in UK clothing and I now suffer loads of nutritional deficiencies (believe me they are no fun and now unrelated to dietary intake) and a dodgy gut. Oh and virtually no long term weightloss - even on a medically supervised diet. I have to take 10 pills daily just to get by, not counting the daily vitamin supplements I need to take too.

I started taking veg hidden in things like soup, if you can do the same, I'd suggest trying that.

I had reservations about replying to this as I know how people can leap on you and give you hell for not singing the party song on mfp. You need to do what works for you but from someone who is now suffering as a result of a tasty but crap diet, please try to add some good stuff in. Visiting hospitals every week for different doctors/departments/tests is no fun (and plays havoc with employers). Getting lectures every time I visit them, about my *past* diet is also humiliating and patronising.

I may have been slimmer but I certainly wasnt healthier.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do!

While you can lose weight eating junk food so long as you're maintaining a calorie deficit, weight is not the whole picture. You can be at a healthy weight and still be unhealthy and feel like crap. It seems odd to me that you can so easily dislike so many entire food groups (vegetables, fruit, meats). Are you familiar and comfortable with cooking? I've known many people who told me they were just picky eaters and it turned out that they just didn't like their own cooking, haha. Sometimes technique makes all the difference; perhaps if you're not too skilled in the kitchen, a cooking class might help you learn to make some tasty foods with these ingredients.

I know that I wasn't even aware of how terrible I felt when I was living on Doritos, fast food, Coke, and alcohol until I stopped doing it. I remember just feeling hot, all the time. I would wake up with horrible leg cramps every morning. Introducing more nutritious foods (and taking a daily multivitamin when I was starting) made me feel loads better. So don't just look at your weight; look at the big picture of how your food makes you feel.

When I was in my 20's I could eat super bad...(and as long as i exercised) i was ok.

Once i hit my 30's though...it didn't work. Exercise wasn't working so well. ALot of people say it's just cals in vs. cals out but I found certain foods would bloat me more than others, i.e. BREADS! In my 20's they did not...

So just keep that in mind.

enjoy eating bad with decent results. It happened with me.

But be prepared for when you are older and you gotta change.

Ok firstly I am not here to judge and so I wont. All I am going to say is that this site is for those of us who want to get fit and healthy first and lose weight second. I personally need to do both and so I read a lot of these posts mainly for inspiration and information to help my journey. It sounds like you do not want advice or friendly criticism, just people to support your eating habits. But the majority of the members here wont support them because they are kinda counterproductive and the opposite of what this site stands for. Not eating vegetables or fruits is unhealthy and I appreciate that you have tried. I have not see one post that says that you are lazy. If anything I am far less fit than you it seems. But it also seems that you are on a defensive, like you know that you are doing wrong but don't want to admit it. I personally can see that you have tried and so you really do not need to get defensive or prove yourself to anyone here. There is a support network if you are willing to listen to advice and cheer people on for doing well, (not for being the same as you.) A lot of these posts that you have criticised have made some negative comments about your lifestyle, but they have also offered you helpful advice in which you have seemed to ignored. Instead of being so defensive why not read the comments that are offering you help and advice, those words of understanding?

Now for my advice (if you wish to listen) I do think you should keep trying to eat healthier food and perhaps try taking some multivitamins that will give you the vitamins and minerals that your body is lacking through your diet. I do think the suggestion to see a Psychiatrist may be a good one because there could be an underlying reason why you cannot eat fruit or vegetables and I wish you all the luck with your journey. x

It *can* be done... but if you stick around here long enough you WILL start eating better. I was pretty much in the same spot as you, and I too cannot STAND the taste of most vegetables (they all seem to taste like dirt to me). All I did when I started was to just eat less of the things I was eating before, and got off my *kitten* and MOVED. I did cut Coke out of my life - not entirely, mind you. I may have a sip or two of Coke Zero once every few weeks... but just enough to remind me that I really don't like it any more! :laugh:

But coming to this site every day HAS changed my eating habits a bit. I still eat pizza every week, have an occasional cheeseburger, and enjoy my sweets (mostly homemade, because I can control what goes into them). However, I also have learned to look for foods that give me more nutrition for my calories - more "bang for the buck" as the phrase goes. I've learned that I actually PREFER having an apple for a morning snack instead of cookies, and that afternoon cup of Greek yogurt is far more tasty than a bag of chips and keeps me full until dinner.

The keys here are MODERATION and PATIENCE. A lot of people on this site would have you believe that their way of eating is the only one true way, and you're a blasphemer if you think otherwise (yeah, it's a bit like a religion to some people). YOU need to find a long-term solution that will work for YOU, and the only way you can do that is to work with your taste buds to find things that you like that are better for you. Dropping all the foods you love at once is nothing but a recipe for disaster, so don't set yourself up for failure. Do some nutritional research. Set yourself a goal to try something new each week, and work it into your diet. Make sure that you are still hitting your macros. Before you know it, you'll be losing the weight you want, and getting healthier in the process.

"It's not a diet - it's a lifestyle change?" Trite, but true.

Best of luck! :flowerforyou:

If you don't want feedback, don't post things on a PUBLIC forum.

You're going to run nutritional deficits in the long term. Weak bones, hair loss, bad skin. You can be skinny and eat lacking foods, but you cannot be healthy long term with a diet like you've described. I'm glad you lost weight, now I hope you slowly shift your priority to having a healthy body. When you're older you're going to wish you'd gotten help getting over your food issues.

Ok firstly I am not here to judge and so I wont. All I am going to say is that this site is for those of us who want to get fit and healthy first and lose weight second. I personally need to do both and so I read a lot of these posts mainly for inspiration and information to help my journey. It sounds like you do not want advice or friendly criticism, just people to support your eating habits. But the majority of the members here wont support them because they are kinda counterproductive and the opposite of what this site stands for. Not eating vegetables or fruits is unhealthy and I appreciate that you have tried. I have not see one post that says that you are lazy. If anything I am far less fit than you it seems. But it also seems that you are on a defensive, like you know that you are doing wrong but don't want to admit it. I personally can see that you have tried and so you really do not need to get defensive or prove yourself to anyone here. There is a support network if you are willing to listen to advice and cheer people on for doing well, (not for being the same as you.) A lot of these posts that you have criticised have made some negative comments about your lifestyle, but they have also offered you helpful advice in which you have seemed to ignored. Instead of being so defensive why not read the comments that are offering you help and advice, those words of understanding?

Now for my advice (if you wish to listen) I do think you should keep trying to eat healthier food and perhaps try taking some multivitamins that will give you the vitamins and minerals that your body is lacking through your diet. I do think the suggestion to see a Psychiatrist may be a good one because there could be an underlying reason why you cannot eat fruit or vegetables and I wish you all the luck with your journey. x

This was very well put.

So your on a weight loss forum, with the majority of people on here trying to either cut down on or give up processed junk food, and you want to find people who will support your mission to loose weight whilst still eating crap? You may struggle there...I'm not entirely sure I understand what you are looking for, or what your goals are either? Either way I wish you look with your endeavors x

Wasn't mean to upset you, but your comments just seem so out of touch with why you're on here. Are you on here to lose weight, regardless of the effect that it will have on you and your body? If yes then stop reading here because it seems like you're just looking for someone to approve of a poor diet and I don't think you'll find so much support for that. However if you are interested in your WHOLE body, not just what the scales say then:
Firstly - you're not going to FEEL any better just because you've eaten some vitamins. You can't FEEL what's going on inside your body - it just all works better when the right building block go in (can you feel fat being deposited/used up? No, of course not so why vitamins?) Vitamins and minerals protect your body over years, preventing things like cancer and other nasty diseases that creep up over time. Long term protection.
Secondly, you are never going to achieve easy weight loss if you eat so many carbs. Your body NEVER has to rely on your fat reserves because there's ALWAYS a ready supply of glucose to use as fuel. Reduce the carbs (bread, potatoes, milk etc) to some extent and your body will burn more fat.
Thirdly (and this isn't mean to insult or similar) I think you have an issue with food that needs addressing - you seem to have a very unhealthy relationship with food. Very few people I know honestly 'love' eating vegetables and given the choice would probably avoid (incl. me). BUT you need to see them as a means to an end. You want to lose weight? Then eat the RIGHT foods, not the ones that you're body is craving thanks to the glucose peaks and troughs that you're creating with the carbs.
Finally, someone once said to me (and it stuck) "You need to fall out of love with food and just use it as the tool that it's designed for" i.e. stop all the calorie counting and constantly thinking about food 24/7. It's that that's the killer and that makes you crave food. Get it into your head that it's just there to do a job, stop spending all day planning and tracking what you fancy for dinner. Stop thinking about it! Use it as a means to survive. 3 meals only (no snacks during the day - food is doing a job and you only need it 3 times per day no matter what you think you'd prefer. If you get hungry then eat more filling foods e.g. fish, meat etc during meals), fewer carbs, more fruit/veg, keep up your exercise.

There is a story about the person who eats non-healthy foods, joined a gym and exercises there twice a week.

In her post at the Houston Chronicle website she reported that after 8 months she lost one pound. Here is the link:

http://blog.chron.com/goodmombadmom/2011/03/i-lost-weight-and-you-can-too/#comments

I'll tell you what I've done.
I'm a picky eater. No salads, no carrots, no veggies except canned corn. No fruits except fruit juice

I started off here with foods I like, which INCLUDED Mcdonalds and wendys and junk food and pop.
Then little by little, I subconsciously started to change. More water less junk.
I had 2 salads in two days.

Normally I wouldn't eat a half a salad in a year.

The important thing is that you start seeing what you're eating, once you cut out the junk, the healthy food does taste better.Except broccoli.
I will probably never eat broccoli

I also never exercised at first either.
Now I still don't exercise as much as I should or eat 100% correct... there's cake calling for me in the kitchen right now actually >.> But I haven't touched it yet. And that's the main thing. You learn about being conscious about these desicions

I lost my first hundred pounds or so just swapping out the soda for water, cutting back on the chips and candy, and walking every day. I guess my situation's a little different; I love to cook, I enjoy real food, I'll try anything once, and I am not very picky about eating things I don't necessarily like if I know they're nourishing.

If you burn off more calories than you take in, you will lose weight. It's simple math. The problem with eating unhealthy food is that it's loaded with unnecessary calories and very unlikely to satisfy you - this will make it very difficult to reduce your calorie count and still feel satisfied.

http://toobbox.com/blog/eat-mcdonalds-for-30-days-and-get-ripped/
^This sort of proves you can eat whatever you want and be fit if you manage your calories and exercise well. There is no way around burning more calories than you consume, but it's really the only rule you have to abide by.

It goes without saying, though, that 1800 calories of wholesome food is far more satisfying than 1800 calories of grease and starch.

among the many reasons that I try to eat healthier foods, is that a healthy balanced meal actually satisfies me for longer, so I am less likely to overeat. If I had chips and soda, I'd be wanting more chips and soda, or some other snack, soon, because I didn't get the nutrients I needed. If I eat the same number of calories, but I make sure to get some protein and healthy fats, I can go hours before being hungry, or even having the munchies.

I also agree with the person who said once you start to reduce the processed sugars and high sodium foods, natural foods (like fruits and veggies) start to taste better. I've always been a fan of fruits and veggies (thanks mom!) but now, I find them to be even more delicious. Maybe you can find a way to prepare them, at first, that satisfies your "junk food" cravings.