Cardio Does Not Burn Muscle Mass

Cristofori44
Cristofori44 Posts: 201
in Fitness and Exercise
"Cardio does not burn muscle mass, crash diets and bad nutrition burn muscle mass!"
http://scoobysworkshop.com/does-cardio-burn-muscle/

"The reason that cardio has gotten a bad reputation for burning muscle is that most often, people couple drastic diets with cardio in their effort to “cut” after “bulking” – its why I hate the whole bulking and cutting mentality. ) Its the drastic caloric reduction that is responsible for the muscle loss, not the cardio! "

http://fitnessblackandwhite.com/does-cardio-burn-muscle-or-fat/
"As long as you get enough protein … maybe not even as much as you think you need, do some sort of strength training and don’t run 43 miles everyday for two months you really don’t need to worry about cardio burning muscle."

Incidentally, the above study showed a 7 percent decline in leg muscle mass for runners on ultra-long race that was 2,777 miles over two months. As most of us won't be doing that, I don't think we have to worry about loss of muscle mass from a 3-5 mile clip once or twice a week. http://www2.rsna.org/timssnet/media/pressreleases/pr_target.cfm?ID=506
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  • Gilbrod
    Gilbrod Posts: 1,216 Member
    :drinker: Alright. Here we go. I got a front row seat too...

    In all honesty, I don't really read many things. I just go with what's been working. I run, then lift and eat at a deficit. Life has been good so far. Good luck on your quest!
  • CyberEd312
    CyberEd312 Posts: 3,536 Member
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    Mean no offense, just love this Gif and it beats typing bump to come back and read later... lol Best of Luck
  • jackieatx
    jackieatx Posts: 578 Member
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    Mean no offense, just love this Gif and it beats typing bump to come back and read later... lol Best of Luck

    That's a great gif and holy crap you've lost a ton of weight!

    I guess I should say something pertaining to the topic at hand.. I hate cardio
  • Jynus
    Jynus Posts: 519 Member
    "As long as you get enough protein … maybe not even as much as you think you need, do some sort of strength training and don’t run 43 miles everyday for two months you really don’t need to worry about cardio burning muscle."
    Holy ****, stop the ****ing presses, if you do strength training you'll retain muscle mass?!?

    Here's the issue. If you're in caloric deficit, you'll shed tissue thats NOT IN USE more than tissue that is being used. If you're only doing cardio, you'll shed type II fibre. Hence skinny fat. If you're doing exercises that utilize all types of muscle fibre, you will be more inclined to lose body fat. This is not news, or should surprise anyone.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Lol scooby
  • drmerc
    drmerc Posts: 2,603 Member
    Lol scooby

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  • BrianSharpe
    BrianSharpe Posts: 9,248 Member
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    BTW - I'm not disagreeing with you (I'm a runner & haven't wasted away) it's just that this topic has been done ad nauseum and is very divisive
  • Cristofori44
    Cristofori44 Posts: 201
    Have to love the people who jump in without citing any sources. Especially the ones who write "f---k" and "lol" in an attempt to add legitimacy to their point of view :)
  • 1SlimShaylee
    1SlimShaylee Posts: 204
    let the games begin!!
  • Cristofori44
    Cristofori44 Posts: 201
    I see some people learned how to insert images and gifs into a thread.

    You guys must be super-creative and technical geniuses :)
  • Determinednoob
    Determinednoob Posts: 2,001 Member
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  • wareagle8706
    wareagle8706 Posts: 1,090 Member
    I see some people learned how to insert images and gifs into a thread.

    You guys must be super-creative and technical geniuses :)

    Wait why are we insulting people when no one has said anything to insult or disagree with you? Are you just trying to start an arguement? I think on this website they call that trolling.....
  • channa007
    channa007 Posts: 419 Member
    Have to love the people who jump in without citing any sources. Especially the ones who write "f---k" and "lol" in an attempt to add legitimacy to their point of view :)

    What's humorous is that your source doesn't have any sources cited either. Just dictionary terminology links.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Have to love the people who jump in without citing any sources. Especially the ones who write "f---k" and "lol" in an attempt to add legitimacy to their point of view :)

    And scooby qualifies as a legit "source"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66boOY4xXGU
  • dr3wman
    dr3wman Posts: 205
    I wouldn't suggest taking advice from scooby
  • Cristofori44
    Cristofori44 Posts: 201
    Have to love the people who jump in without citing any sources. Especially the ones who write "f---k" and "lol" in an attempt to add legitimacy to their point of view :)

    What's humorous is that your source doesn't have any sources cited either. Just dictionary terminology links.

    Are you able to read and follow links, or not?

    http://www2.rsna.org/timssnet/media/pressreleases/pr_target.cfm?ID=506
    "Due to the exceptional setting of this study, we could acquire huge amounts of unique data regarding how endurance running affects the body's muscle and body fat," said Uwe Schütz, M.D., a specialist in orthopedics and trauma surgery in the Department of Diagnostic and Interventional Radiology at the University Hospital of Ulm in Germany. "Much of what we have learned so far can also be applied to the average runner."
  • Jynus
    Jynus Posts: 519 Member
    I wouldn't suggest taking advice from scooby
    I would suggest he's more qualified than vast majority of people to give advice.
  • Cristofori44
    Cristofori44 Posts: 201
    Have to love the people who jump in without citing any sources. Especially the ones who write "f---k" and "lol" in an attempt to add legitimacy to their point of view :)

    And scooby qualifies as a legit "source"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66boOY4xXGU

    Another guy who can't seem to follow a link. Spend more time with the books, bro:

    http://www2.rsna.org/timssnet/media/pressreleases/pr_target.cfm?ID=506
  • chivalryder
    chivalryder Posts: 4,391 Member
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  • YogaNikki
    YogaNikki Posts: 284 Member
    deadhorse.jpg

    BTW - I'm not disagreeing with you (I'm a runner & haven't wasted away) it's just that this topic has been done ad nauseum and is very divisive

    True story.
  • dr3wman
    dr3wman Posts: 205
    I wouldn't suggest taking advice from scooby
    I would suggest he's more qualified than vast majority of people to give advice.

    Im more qualified then a vast majority of people on changing my brake pads...doesn't mean you want me underneath your car.
  • drmerc
    drmerc Posts: 2,603 Member
    Have to love the people who jump in without citing any sources. Especially the ones who write "f---k" and "lol" in an attempt to add legitimacy to their point of view :)

    And scooby qualifies as a legit "source"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66boOY4xXGU

    Another guy who can't seem to follow a link. Spend more time with the books, bro:

    http://www2.rsna.org/timssnet/media/pressreleases/pr_target.cfm?ID=506

    Nice press release bro, where's the study?
  • wareagle8706
    wareagle8706 Posts: 1,090 Member
    Let's say it like this....

    Cardio burns muscle mass when there is not enough energy in the body (carbs) and all of the ATP stores have been depleted. Your body then begins to use amino acids (proteins your muscle) to convert to ATP to use for energy.

    So... yes cardio does burn muscle mass if you do so much of it with too little energy (carbs) in your body.

    You can't make a blanket statement about something like that. You will get eaten alive on this website for something like that.

    Plus, I've never seen this Scooby website before but... if he calls himself Scooby... I would have a difficult time finding him credible. Then again I have a hard time finding people with normal names credible when they just make stuff up and put it on a website....
  • channa007
    channa007 Posts: 419 Member
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  • Cristofori44
    Cristofori44 Posts: 201
    Have to love the people who jump in without citing any sources. Especially the ones who write "f---k" and "lol" in an attempt to add legitimacy to their point of view :)

    And scooby qualifies as a legit "source"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66boOY4xXGU

    Another guy who can't seem to follow a link. Spend more time with the books, bro:

    http://www2.rsna.org/timssnet/media/pressreleases/pr_target.cfm?ID=506

    Nice press release bro, where's the study?

    Google it if you're interested. I don't do other people's homework--especially those who don't even read the links I provide.
  • Z_I_L_L_A
    Z_I_L_L_A Posts: 2,399 Member
    "Cardio does not burn muscle mass, crash diets and bad nutrition burn muscle mass!"
    http://scoobysworkshop.com/does-cardio-burn-muscle/

    "The reason that cardio has gotten a bad reputation for burning muscle is that most often, people couple drastic diets with cardio in their effort to “cut” after “bulking” – its why I hate the whole bulking and cutting mentality. ) Its the drastic caloric reduction that is responsible for the muscle loss, not the cardio! "

    http://fitnessblackandwhite.com/does-cardio-burn-muscle-or-fat/
    "As long as you get enough protein … maybe not even as much as you think you need, do some sort of strength training and don’t run 43 miles everyday for two months you really don’t need to worry about cardio burning muscle."

    Incidentally, the above study showed a 7 percent decline in leg muscle mass for runners on ultra-long race that was 2,777 miles over two months. As most of us won't be doing that, I don't think we have to worry about loss of muscle mass from a 3-5 mile clip once or twice a week. http://www2.rsna.org/timssnet/media/pressreleases/pr_target.cfm?ID=506


    You learn this from the internet and school or you've done the trial and error yourself? Is this your info or someone elses? You have to earn knowledge by experiencing this not quote someone else. Do you also do brain surgery or just read about it and thats the way it is? Looks good on paper dude, wonder if the people that wrote it are in anyway athletic?
  • BrianSharpe
    BrianSharpe Posts: 9,248 Member
    Let's say it like this....

    Cardio burns muscle mass when there is not enough energy in the body (carbs) and all of the ATP stores have been depleted. Your body then begins to use amino acids (proteins your muscle) to convert to ATP to use for energy.

    So... yes cardio does burn muscle mass if you do so much of it with too little energy (carbs) in your body.

    You can't make a blanket statement about something like that. You will get eaten alive on this website for something like that.

    Plus, I've never seen this Scooby website before but... if he calls himself Scooby... I would have a difficult time finding him credible. Then again I have a hard time finding people with normal names credible when they just make stuff up and put it on a website....

    At what % of body fat does this start to happen? Please cite sources.
  • Cristofori44
    Cristofori44 Posts: 201
    Let's say it like this....

    Cardio burns muscle mass when there is not enough energy in the body (carbs) and all of the ATP stores have been depleted. Your body then begins to use amino acids (proteins your muscle) to convert to ATP to use for energy.

    So... yes cardio does burn muscle mass if you do so much of it with too little energy (carbs) in your body.

    But you can make a blanket statement about cardio burning muscle mass without providing any sources?

    Nice double-standard there.
  • chivalryder
    chivalryder Posts: 4,391 Member
    Let's say it like this....

    Cardio burns muscle mass when there is not enough energy in the body (carbs) and all of the ATP stores have been depleted. Your body then begins to use amino acids (proteins your muscle) to convert to ATP to use for energy.

    So... yes cardio does burn muscle mass if you do so much of it with too little energy (carbs) in your body.

    You can't make a blanket statement about something like that. You will get eaten alive on this website for something like that.

    Plus, I've never seen this Scooby website before but... if he calls himself Scooby... I would have a difficult time finding him credible. Then again I have a hard time finding people with normal names credible when they just make stuff up and put it on a website....

    At what % of body fat does this start to happen? Please cite sources.

    There is no % body fat that this starts at. I would cite two sources, but my books are all in my apartment, and I'm at work.
  • wareagle8706
    wareagle8706 Posts: 1,090 Member
    Let's say it like this....

    Cardio burns muscle mass when there is not enough energy in the body (carbs) and all of the ATP stores have been depleted. Your body then begins to use amino acids (proteins your muscle) to convert to ATP to use for energy.

    So... yes cardio does burn muscle mass if you do so much of it with too little energy (carbs) in your body.

    But you can make a blanket statement about cardio burning muscle mass without providing any sources?

    Nice double-standard there.

    I'm sorry I didn't cite my fitness and nutrtion textbook from college. Or the text book I'm reading right now studying for my personal training certification. But honestly, I'd believe those more than some guy named Scooby...
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