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  • dkweathington
    dkweathington Posts: 69 Member
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    Please seek immediate help for your depression. You have to get those feeling under control before worrying about weight loss.
    I know that sounds crazy but it's true. With help you can control your depression & begin to live a healther life. For you & your child.:heart:

    yes!!
  • dkweathington
    dkweathington Posts: 69 Member
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    I'm not looking for sympathy or support and I'm not trolling. I just need to talk openly and honestly to people other than my family. I need real answers.

    I am just one of those people that have to be perfect at everything I do. School, work....everything. I was a three sport athlete in high school and was the captain of all 3 sports. I have always been a 4.0 student.

    My husband is in the process of getting gastric bypass thanks to his VA medical coverage. He has really bad sleep apnea so I know what a horrible condition it can be. My mother-in-law had gastric by pass 2 years ago and now looks like she can blow away in the wind. I am a research FREAK and know every single pro and con there is.

    No one takes me serious and my family tells me they love me no matter what I look like. I know weight loss surgery isn't a "magic bullet" and I know the work that goes in to it. I have had 5 abdominal surgeries over the past 3 years so surgery doesn't scare me. I saw a dietitian today who looked at my food journaling for the past 9 months ( I started long before joining MFP) and told me there is nothing they could recommend that I'm not doing or haven't already done. They told me I need to embrace my body and realize I'll never be my ideal weight. I've seen personal trainers and doctors about my excess testosterone levels which make my muscles unusually bulky and they said I need to avoid all weight bearing activities.

    I just can't accept defeat or not being the best. It's not who I am. There has to be an answer and if surgery isn't what is going to help me there has to be something out there that can.


    It makes me angry that doctors have told you that there is nothing to be done or you will never reach your ideal weight. I am coming from experience when I say to go get therapy. It helped me so much. It can change the way you think, and I believe, that is the biggest thing getting in your way. I would do a little more research on weight loss and use the tools MPF offers. I think you are eating too few calories.

    Did you let MPF set your goals or did you set them yourself!!! They say it is not recommended for a reason. They can set you at a much reasonable daily calorie goal and guide you as you lose weight by adjusting your goals accordingly.

    I think you have a lot more in you than you think. NOBODY is perfect and as long as you drive yourself crazy with that, you will probably fail. Believe me, I know!!!!!!!!!!! Plus you need the help for your kids too. You don't want the cycle to continue. If you had asked me five years ago what I thought of myself, it would have been a very negative answer. Today, I like me! I am not chained down with negative thoughts and actions anymore.

    Get the help. Change your thinking. It helps. I promise!!!
  • dkweathington
    dkweathington Posts: 69 Member
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    Plus, have you thought of holistic medicine? This one of the thing that has helped!!! My hormones were all out of wak and now I feel great because they are "in check".
  • GabsMommy28
    GabsMommy28 Posts: 47 Member
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    I was recommended for the surgery. I sat through the orientation but knew within 10 minutes I wouldn't do it. It is NOT safe to have children after. The child will not get the nutrition it needs if you have the surgery. Thank God I didn't do it or I wouldn't have my precious boy.
  • dkweathington
    dkweathington Posts: 69 Member
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    I was recommended for the surgery. I sat through the orientation but knew within 10 minutes I wouldn't do it. It is NOT safe to have children after. The child will not get the nutrition it needs if you have the surgery. Thank God I didn't do it or I wouldn't have my precious boy.

    :heart: :flowerforyou: :smile:
  • happyfeetrebel1
    happyfeetrebel1 Posts: 1,005 Member
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    Double post..sorry :)
  • happyfeetrebel1
    happyfeetrebel1 Posts: 1,005 Member
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    I am working toward surgery. It's far from easy and most certainly not an easy or quick fix to obesity. Speaking from personal experience it sounds like you have other issues you need to deal with before addressing the weight. Depression is a real b!tch when you're overweight. I've dealt with it, or rather lived with it, most of my life. I didn't start actually dealing with it until a couple years ago.

    It is virtually impossible to lose weight until you deal with the reasons you are overweight to begin with. You have to deal with and understand what drives you to overeat, the real reasons you don't exercise. Not the excuses we make for ourselves, but the true, deep seated reasons for our behaviors.

    If you try and get surgery as a quick fix without dealing with all the other issues first you will fail. And when you fail after bariatric surgery it's not a good thing, it can be fatal.

    I was about to type all this myself, but it's already been said for me!

    For those who think weight loss surgery is a "quick fix"...I'd like to see how "quick" you think it is to complete 6-9 months of supervised dieting, a grand total of 24 doctor visits, 2 psych evals, and an EGD, and that's just before surgery. Oh yeah, and that's also for someone with no comorbidities, on the "fast" track...you know, because I'm "really healthy".

    Anyone doing it right isn't taking the easy way out, I promise you.

    Don't forget the

    EKG
    Stress Test
    Physical Therapy
    Counseling if you need it
    And all the other blood work

    *easy way out?*

    /snicker
  • happyfeetrebel1
    happyfeetrebel1 Posts: 1,005 Member
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    I was recommended for the surgery. I sat through the orientation but knew within 10 minutes I wouldn't do it. It is NOT safe to have children after. The child will not get the nutrition it needs if you have the surgery. Thank God I didn't do it or I wouldn't have my precious boy.

    :heart: :flowerforyou: :smile:

    This is patently untrue. The only restrictions are to wait around 18 months to give your body a chance to heal. Many, MANY people have children after surgery. The fertility rates escalate enormously once obese people lose weight. You just need to give your own body time to adjust.
  • keeks8281
    keeks8281 Posts: 53
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    I am friends with someone on MFP who started in the high 500s and has lost 301 pounds. Don't say it is impossible and surgery is the answer, because MANY people with MUCH MORE to lose than you have done it the old fashioned way. And asking if you can fake a test so they will approve the surgery? Really? How about consistently sticking with eating well and exercising more? YOU have the power to change your life on your own. Will you???

    Here is another guy who started close to 500 and now runs marathons.

    http://500lbs2marathon.com/Home_Page.html
  • flatblade
    flatblade Posts: 224 Member
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    I have seen both sides of the issue. My brother had bariatric surgery and it was very effective. He lost nearly 200 lbs. and reduced medications increased his mobility, and greatly enhanced his quality of life. He has suffered some side effects and has started to regain some of the weight. I believe he has gained back about 60 lb. I know of two people (co-workers with my wife) who were basically unsuccessful with the same surgery. Finally, my co-worker's husband has lost over 100 lbs. and greatly enhanced his quality of life. His wife is going to have the surgery next month. Everyone is different. Weight loss is probably impossible for some if they don't have surgery.

    I would have to be a lot more miserable and desperate before I had surgery. My LEARN group is a required precursor before Mayo patients can go under the knife. Most in my group are at least amenable to the idea and I am probably the most strongly opposed.
  • RainHoward
    RainHoward Posts: 1,599 Member
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    The amount of misinformation regarding bariatric surgery that I have read on this thread is appalling.
  • happyfeetrebel1
    happyfeetrebel1 Posts: 1,005 Member
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    The amount of misinformation regarding bariatric surgery that I have read on this thread is appalling.

    Indeed.

    However, I don't even expect peeps on here to feel favorably towards this type of surgery. Peeps here want to feel that they are struggling to lose weight. It makes that journey SO much more satisfying, right? God forbid you take the 'easy way out'.

    Except..it isn't the 'easy way out' and anyone who did even a modicum of research that was legitimately interested in learning FACTS about this would learn that.

    It's a waste of breath. People see and hear what they want to. Anything else is just noise :(
  • KettleBellHoe
    KettleBellHoe Posts: 161
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    if yu remove fat from your belly and thighs and other normal body fat storage spots your fat will start to grow in odd places that have smaller amounts of fat like the top of your knees.armpits and feet and you will look disfigured.do it the natural way :)
  • tothetide
    tothetide Posts: 21 Member
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    Ok, first off, all the negativity and mean comment need to stop. It's rude and it's not productive.

    Now, to try and help with your question, all I can say is lying or trying to "cheat" your way into getting a surgery that probably won't be successful for you in the long run is not a good idea. A lot of people are in your shoes. Maybe for right now, you should just focus on loving yourself the way you are. And keep up with a positive lifestyle change (eating right, working out). Much peace and love! I hope you find your way to happiness. <3
  • Birdnicaj
    Birdnicaj Posts: 95
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    I think you wrote your question for this community very openly and honestly, knowing that the vast vast majority of us would try to talk you out of surgery....esp cheating to get surgery.
    I hope all our answers have helped you.
    I can only suggest one more thing: make your food diary public, engage in transparency, be open to criticism of your food choices. It breeds accountability. It will help (may not be very easy but it will help)
  • RainHoward
    RainHoward Posts: 1,599 Member
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    if yu remove fat from your belly and thighs and other normal body fat storage spots your fat will start to grow in odd places that have smaller amounts of fat like the top of your knees.armpits and feet and you will look disfigured.do it the natural way :)

    WTF you talkin bout?
  • Birdnicaj
    Birdnicaj Posts: 95
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    if yu remove fat from your belly and thighs and other normal body fat storage spots your fat will start to grow in odd places that have smaller amounts of fat like the top of your knees.armpits and feet and you will look disfigured.do it the natural way :)

    WTF you talkin bout?

    I think this person confused lipo with WLS, LOL!!!
  • subcult
    subcult Posts: 262 Member
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    I think the OP was mostly thinking out load thinking about something wrong and doing them are very different.
  • masirahmo
    masirahmo Posts: 30 Member
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    Please forgive me if I'm way off base on this, but there are a lot of things about this post which simply don't add up, and I'm wondering if KamikazeeKim has got exactly what she wanted - i.e. being the centre of attention for a couple of hundred people.
    The diction, grammar and spelling of the original post are good - well above that of the average, which leads me to believe that this girl is not stupid; yet she expects us to believe that she didn't know that testing for diabetes is done by taking blood and therefore cannot be faked. A simple Google search would give her all the info she needed, and also dispel any thoughts of trying to fake it. I don't know enough about the sleep apnoea to comment, but it sounds very much as if the same criteria apply.
    I think a lot of people are fixating on the surgery, and maybe not looking closely enough at the rest of the information provided; which again, does not make sense. A 250lb person eating 1200 calories a day and exercising hard is going to lose weight - however unhealthy that level of intake is for a person her size. Even if she's hit a plateau, there is no way that the weight would be "piling on" at that calorific intake.
    In short, I believe that we are being treated to the same fairy story that she is feeding the doctors, in the vain hope that somebody will take pity on her and give her some tips on how to con the doctor into giving her the quick fix she wants.

    I'm sorry if this sounds harsh - but the facts provided simply do not add up!!
  • ahamm002
    ahamm002 Posts: 1,690 Member
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    It makes me angry that doctors have told you that there is nothing to be done or you will never reach your ideal weight.

    Do you really believe doctors told her that? She is clearly delusional, possibly secondary to depression.

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