Smoking Neighbours

Wow,

What a bunch of jerks in here telling you to get over it or that you're over reacting.

I don't have any answers for you; this is one of the many reasons that I hope to never have to live in an apartment again.

There is nothing worse than having someone else's toxic fumes filling your home and making you miserable.

He was living there first. There are steps she can take to prevent the smoke from entering. She should have done her due diligence.

There are steps people can take to avoid being ****heads too.

Enumerate them.

Take a deep breath and walk away from this thread. There are people in this forum community that respond only to pick fights. It's obnoxious and wide spread. You know what you need to do.

It's interesting how it's ok to give other people cancer.

I've never seen a lease where tenants are permitted to smoke in the property.

Good point well made.

I assume the obnoxious bros on the thread are the variety of smoker who assert 'you can take my cigarette from my cold dead hand'.

Obviously it's *entirely unreasonable* that a non-smoker not want to indulge in someone else's death wish.

So far, the only two suggestions I have gotten have been:

a) Deal with it, or

b) Talk to him.

I find it hilarious that, in the 1 hour this forum has existed, simple because I haven't spoken to him, I haven't taken that advice *at all.*

Yeah, sure I've brought it up with the landlord, but that's because I've bumped into the landlord a few times. I've never seen this guy at all. I had actually spoken to the guy directly below me because I believed that's where all of the smoke was coming from. The two of them are buddies, so that's how I found out the guy was a chain smoker (and also recovering from heart disease and open-heart surgery. The guy probably isn't going to live much longer).

I haven't gone to speak to the guy yet because I am both very tired and very irked by both the smoker himself, and the *kitten* on this thread. Would you say it's good advice to talk to someone when you're pissed off at him? I didn't think so.

I also hate conflict. I try to avoid it as much as possible. That's why I went to the landlord first, to see if what my options were. Why did I do that? So I could leave the guy alone, so he could continue doing what he is doing, with interference by me. Does that make me a bad person, interfering with his rights? Making him unable to live in his own comfort? I didn't think so. I was simply trying to make my own living arrangements more comfortable at my own costs. He wouldn't have even known that any of this was going on.

So I think all of you can shove off and let some people on here with with some real advice pitch in. That's why I made this thread: So I could get some advice, and to let off some steam. Damn.

Edit: I would like to add that I'm not one who just goes around and complains about my problems. When there is something bothering me, and I really don't like it, I do something about it. Talking to the landlord: that's what I was doing. I was dealing with it. I wasn't just *****ing about it. I really hate it when people just complain about their problems, then never act on it.

Ok, that's not true I have suggested a few things as have a few other people. If you only hear what you want to then there isn't anyone that can help you.
Do something with the fans you have right now to get the smoke out, then shut your window for now.

Closing windows and fan blowing out constitute as "dealing with it." At least, that's how I took it. It's a temporary solution that doesn't resolve much.

Ironic. You do realize there are far more cancerous agents in second hand pot smoke right?

I said I didn't mind the smell of it. That doesn't mean I like to smell it.

And it's silly to suggest you are trying to get out of a lease you can't afford. For one, you obviously qualified to begin with. And you also already stated you like the apartment complex and would move to another unit. I'm assuming the same price.

When did I say I couldn't afford the lease? I don't recall mentioning that.

I do recall stating that, once before when I did attempt to break a lease early, I lost over $1000. Who in their right mind would like to do that? There are still 8 months left in this lease, and if I try to leave early, I may end up paying for the rest of it, even if I find a new place. No thanks.

Yes, a unit in this building would be the same price, but the only unit that will be available any time soon is on the same floor as the smoker (I'm not sure if he smokes indoors or not) and is right next to the main entrance. I would lose a lot of perks that this unit has (The privacy, the view, the quietness). The other unit doesn't have the same value as this one.

After reading this entire thread [I love these forums.] I've noticed that the OP is the rudest person contributing to this conversation.

Oh, and take my previous comment: go blow a dead goat.

He was there first, you didn't check out the apartments tenants before you moved there, and you're demonizing the man and refusing to even consider talking to him.


Put a fan near the window to blow the smoke out.
Chill out.
Talk to him tomorrow.



Or, you know.. Overreact and move out because you were too immature to talk to the person and/or find another resolution.

By nature, smoking is rude because they can't consume 100% of the pollution. What other voluntary behavior enters other people's bodies without permission? Spoils the taste of their meals? We have to understand that smokers are often defensive because they would rather not face that they're trapped in an addiction.

However, unlike forums and anonymous letters, most people react positively in person when someone politely informs them of a discomfort they're causing. Letting someone know that each time he/she smokes, you know it because your windows are open may just be enough to reduce (probably not eliminate) it. Talk of allergies and illness may be less effective, because it's hard to convince someone comfortable in a thick cloud that the invisible smell that annoys you is significant. Letting the landlord know why you want an accommodation may have a long-term benefit, if enough of us do so. That's how restaurants and hotels have learned not to be cowed by aggressive smokers.

Most importantly, don't take it personally because the smoking is not meant to be against us. Smokers are just blind (or the olfactory equivalent) to how much it takes away from others' quality of life. Be sure that the owner, not just the manager, knows why you've decided to find a new place next year. Good luck!

By nature, smoking is rude because they can't consume 100% of the pollution. What other voluntary behavior enters other people's bodies without permission? Spoils the taste of their meals? We have to understand that smokers are often defensive because they would rather not face that they're trapped in an addiction.

However, unlike forums and anonymous letters, most people react positively in person when someone politely informs them of a discomfort they're causing. Letting someone know that each time he/she smokes, you know it because your windows are open may just be enough to reduce (probably not eliminate) it. Talk of allergies and illness may be less effective, because it's hard to convince someone comfortable in a thick cloud that the invisible smell that annoys you is significant. Letting the landlord know why you want an accommodation may have a long-term benefit, if enough of us do so. That's how restaurants and hotels have learned not to be cowed by aggressive smokers.

Most importantly, don't take it personally because the smoking is not meant to be against us. Smokers are just blind (or the olfactory equivalent) to how much it takes away from others' quality of life. Be sure that the owner, not just the manager, knows why you've decided to find a new place next year. Good luck!