Tired of all the "real dieters"
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:huh: I thought you where the one telling others how they should eat? Why do you even bother. Live and let live. Do what feels good for you. Let others learn from their own mistakes if they even make one.
I don't think that there was a single thing wrong with saying 1) treats can be had in moderation 2) exercising while attempting to lose weight will preserve LBM and result in a "better" aesthetic upon reaching goal and 3) eating 1200 calories while working out intensely can be quite harmful. So...because I've said these things I deserve to be told that I'm packing extra fat? Wow. I'll leave you both to that opinion.
Where did you ever read that I mentioned anything about a) You're packing extra fat? Because you're definately not btw and never did I mention this. b) anything else from above? Maybe you should read your first post again. I was talking about you telling others that they are not doing it the 'healthy' way and you listed 3 things. My point (and my only point) was why do you bother? Do what you believe in. Do what feels right for you. Accept friends that fit your beliefs. But let's let others do as they please too.0 -
also, what the hell does it matter how much weight i've had to lose? you don't get muscles, deadlift 1.75x your body weight and squat the same by sitting on your *kitten*. That takes work. Are you saying that you wouldn't listen to the most successful person in your company if they hadn't failed before getting to that point? Would you not take their advice on how to someday get into a similar position? If not then that's just silly. I ALWAYS LOOK TO PEOPLE WHO ARE WHERE I WANT TO BE because obviously they've done something right. Maybe my journey will be slightly different because our circumstances are different but there are very useful bits of advice and information found by not seeing their perspective as condemnation but merely as a tool to guide my own behavior.0
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I would love to see one of you guys post a success story showing what you really eat and do. It would be very inspirational for someone like me whose just starting out. I'm doing my best to not starve myself and eat right and it does make a big difference. I can't imagine going hungry if my body needs it. Either way, would love to see a success story by someone who eats lots and exercises too. :happy:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/3834-eat-more-to-weigh-less
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/654536-in-place-of-a-road-map-2-0-revised-7-2-12
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/680246-tdee-bmr-what-they-are-and-what-to-do-with-them0 -
i love it when people who haven't had a lot of weight to lose, nor had life events that cause weight gain, come around and make up these threads that try and call others out and dictate to them what they do wrong and why they are fat.
full of win!
I didn't see this any where in the thread. The fact is that there is no ONE RIGHT WAY to build lean mass and lose excess body fat (though it's very difficult to do both without the aid of performance enhancing agents). This is why those who are interested in building lean mass bulk first (this does not mean get fat). They take on more calories for many months in order to facilitate growth. And when they feel they've made enough progress gaining mass they switch up their diet and cardio habits (or simply add cardio back to their routine) in order to MAINTAIN the lean mass they just worked so hard to gain while burning body fat.
So, unless a body adheres to these types of principles (that are simple biological facts - NOT MAGIC) then they are doing it WRONG. period...
If you want to see how I know this... LOOK HERE: http://voices.yahoo.com/photos/bikinimom-pursuing-strength-living-fit-6215496.html?cat=5 20+ years of experience and STILL LEARNING EVERY DAY!!!0 -
I'm so tired of seeing people on MFP talking about how they are trying really hard to lose weight "HEALTHILY" or they are so tired of yoyo dieting but then you look at their diaries and you see:
A) they're eating 1200 (or fewer) calories and working out intensely
eating rabbit food everyday and then complaining that they can't fit in more than 1200 calories
C) haven't changed their eating habits at all. Still eating copious amounts of food with little to no redeeming qualities
D) they neglect physically activity and complain that they don't like their body after reaching goal (because they've likely lost or failed to maintain LBM throughout the process)
I want to be strong, fit, and healthy. To me this means that YES you can have dessert..fast food..starbucks..whatever your vice is but you have it with moderation. This means that you fuel your body properly and not attempt to starve the weight off.
Most importantly it means that YOU DO NOT "DIET" ...you learn how to make changes that will stick with you for a lifetime. You find activities you love, food that tastes great but isn't detrimental to your progress, and you incorporate treats occasionally. Food is not to be feared and progress is not to be rushed.
So glad you said this. I wrote a post few days ago, concerned because I ate too few calories and didn't want to go into starvation mode and one MFP'er told me that it didnt exist and I was being irrational. Eating is important - food is not the enemy! It's what we eat and how we treat our bodies that makes the difference.0 -
I'm so tired of seeing people on MFP talking about how they are trying really hard to lose weight "HEALTHILY" or they are so tired of yoyo dieting but then you look at their diaries and you see:
A) they're eating 1200 (or fewer) calories and working out intensely eating rabbit food everyday and then complaining that they can't fit in more than 1200 calories
C) haven't changed their eating habits at all. Still eating copious amounts of food with little to no redeeming qualities
D) they neglect physically activity and complain that they don't like their body after reaching goal (because they've likely lost or failed to maintain LBM throughout the process)
I want to be strong, fit, and healthy. To me this means that YES you can have dessert..fast food..starbucks..whatever your vice is but you have it with moderation. This means that you fuel your body properly and not attempt to starve the weight off.
Most importantly it means that YOU DO NOT "DIET" ...you learn how to make changes that will stick with you for a lifetime. You find activities you love, food that tastes great but isn't detrimental to your progress, and you incorporate treats occasionally. Food is not to be feared and progress is not to be rushed.
So glad you said this. I wrote a post few days ago, concerned because I ate too few calories and didn't want to go into starvation mode and one MFP'er told me that it didnt exist and I was being irrational. Eating is important - food is not the enemy! It's what we eat and how we treat our bodies that makes the difference.
I'm glad that the post helped you..and a few others. That's really all that matters. People can berate me and say bad things about me but at the end of the day it was worth it to see several people POSITIVELY affected!0 -
I'm not tired of the real or fake dieters. Whatever works for someone is fine with me. And if it doesn't work, they'll find that out soon enough. Everyone must find their own path.
Me, I choose diet and exercise. Yep, I am ON A DIET. I've been on this diet for 20+ years and plan to stay on it for the rest of my life. I only maintain a healthy weight when I diet. If I don't think about what I'm eating everyday, I will over eat.
Diet. Say it with me friends. It's not a dirty word. It's a wonderful thing. And it's only as temporary as you make it.
The problem with the word DIET is that most people (it seems you may be in this category, I could be wrong. If I am, I do apologize) think this word means what they DON'T or CAN'T eat/drink (yes, what you drink affects your metabolism too!). That's what screws people up. Your diet is comprised of what YOU DO EAT/DRINK.
See, it's the four letter word F-O-O-D that screws people up. FOOD is not evil. FOOD IS YOUR FRIEND!
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I'm not tired of the real or fake dieters. Whatever works for someone is fine with me. And if it doesn't work, they'll find that out soon enough. Everyone must find their own path.
Me, I choose diet and exercise. Yep, I am ON A DIET. I've been on this diet for 20+ years and plan to stay on it for the rest of my life. I only maintain a healthy weight when I diet. If I don't think about what I'm eating everyday, I will over eat.
Diet. Say it with me friends. It's not a dirty word. It's a wonderful thing. And it's only as temporary as you make it.
The problem with the word DIET is that most people (it seems you may be in this category, I could be wrong. If I am, I do apologize) think this word means what they DON'T or CAN'T eat/drink (yes, what you drink affects your metabolism too!). That's what screws people up. Your diet is comprised of what YOU DO EAT/DRINK.
See, it's the four letter word F-O-O-D that screws people up. FOOD is not evil. FOOD IS YOUR FRIEND!
So, on a diet one chooses carefully what they can and can't eat or drink, but in a lifestyle change they do, what? Eat and drink without thought? I doubt seriously that is the case, but if so, I'll take a diet every time.
I do limit what I can and can not eat or drink. Some things are limited to occasional use only. Some are thoughtfully added on a regular basis. Food, for me at least, can be friend or foe, depending on how I choose to control it.0 -
I would love to see one of you guys post a success story showing what you really eat and do. It would be very inspirational for someone like me whose just starting out. I'm doing my best to not starve myself and eat right and it does make a big difference. I can't imagine going hungry if my body needs it. Either way, would love to see a success story by someone who eats lots and exercises too. :happy:
This isn't MY success story, but it's a good one.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/709987-how-wrong-i-was-600-days-of-mfp-lotsa-pics
This is such a great story! It really motivated me to become more active after I saw how wonderful she is doing! I've since joined a gym and am taking 3+ fitness classes a week
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because to some people it may come off like someone who has never had an alcohol or drug addiction telling people who have to just use self control. Its a little belittling . we are not all the same so try to support people as they try to learn and overcome.also, what the hell does it matter how much weight i've had to lose? you don't get muscles, deadlift 1.75x your body weight and squat the same by sitting on your *kitten*. That takes work. Are you saying that you wouldn't listen to the most successful person in your company if they hadn't failed before getting to that point? Would you not take their advice on how to someday get into a similar position? If not then that's just silly. I ALWAYS LOOK TO PEOPLE WHO ARE WHERE I WANT TO BE because obviously they've done something right. Maybe my journey will be slightly different because our circumstances are different but there are very useful bits of advice and information found by not seeing their perspective as condemnation but merely as a tool to guide my own behavior.0 -
because to some people it may come off like someone who has never had an alcohol or drug addiction telling people who have to just use self control. Its a little belittling . we are not all the same so try to support people as they try to learn and overcome.also, what the hell does it matter how much weight i've had to lose? you don't get muscles, deadlift 1.75x your body weight and squat the same by sitting on your *kitten*. That takes work. Are you saying that you wouldn't listen to the most successful person in your company if they hadn't failed before getting to that point? Would you not take their advice on how to someday get into a similar position? If not then that's just silly. I ALWAYS LOOK TO PEOPLE WHO ARE WHERE I WANT TO BE because obviously they've done something right. Maybe my journey will be slightly different because our circumstances are different but there are very useful bits of advice and information found by not seeing their perspective as condemnation but merely as a tool to guide my own behavior.
But we are NOT all the same, as you said. Just because someone never had a hundred pounds to lose doesn't mean they don't know anything. Jillian Michaels never had THAT much weight to lose, in my opinion. And there are tons of other fitness professionals like that.
Nobody has a perfect life. We all have difficult experiences that we have learned from. Someone who has had an alcohol addiction may be able to help someone who has had a drug addiction. Someone who has had anorexia may be able to help someone who has struggled with over-eating. Just because we've had different paths doesn't mean we can't help each other.0 -
because to some people it may come off like someone who has never had an alcohol or drug addiction telling people who have to just use self control. Its a little belittling . we are not all the same so try to support people as they try to learn and overcome.also, what the hell does it matter how much weight i've had to lose? you don't get muscles, deadlift 1.75x your body weight and squat the same by sitting on your *kitten*. That takes work. Are you saying that you wouldn't listen to the most successful person in your company if they hadn't failed before getting to that point? Would you not take their advice on how to someday get into a similar position? If not then that's just silly. I ALWAYS LOOK TO PEOPLE WHO ARE WHERE I WANT TO BE because obviously they've done something right. Maybe my journey will be slightly different because our circumstances are different but there are very useful bits of advice and information found by not seeing their perspective as condemnation but merely as a tool to guide my own behavior.
it doesn't have to come across that way--that's my point. I could always take a superior's advice as condescending but I choose to USE IT to benefit me. If the individual was presented with drugs on a daily basis or had the urge to do them but didn't indulge that urge...then I'd say, there's SOMETHING that can be learned there. The "why" and "how" they resist those urges can be useful even if they never chose to actually step foot into that world. Maybe it's just me but I like to improve upon myself and if someone is willing to share their perspective with me it's not my first inclination to jump down their throat (assuming this individual is in a position/possesses something that I'd like to attain).0 -
thats exactly correct. just be aware not every person is as far along as she obviously is. at least they are on here trying to learn.
because to some people it may come off like someone who has never had an alcohol or drug addiction telling people who have to just use self control. Its a little belittling . we are not all the same so try to support people as they try to learn and overcome.also, what the hell does it matter how much weight i've had to lose? you don't get muscles, deadlift 1.75x your body weight and squat the same by sitting on your *kitten*. That takes work. Are you saying that you wouldn't listen to the most successful person in your company if they hadn't failed before getting to that point? Would you not take their advice on how to someday get into a similar position? If not then that's just silly. I ALWAYS LOOK TO PEOPLE WHO ARE WHERE I WANT TO BE because obviously they've done something right. Maybe my journey will be slightly different because our circumstances are different but there are very useful bits of advice and information found by not seeing their perspective as condemnation but merely as a tool to guide my own behavior.
But we are NOT all the same, as you said. Just because someone never had a hundred pounds to lose doesn't mean they don't know anything. Jillian Michaels never had THAT much weight to lose, in my opinion. And there are tons of other fitness professionals like that.
Nobody has a perfect life. We all have difficult experiences that we have learned from. Someone who has had an alcohol addiction may be able to help someone who has had a drug addiction. Someone who has had anorexia may be able to help someone who has struggled with over-eating. Just because we've had different paths doesn't mean we can't help each other.0 -
thats exactly correct. just be aware not every person is as far along as she obviously is. at least they are on here trying to learn.
because to some people it may come off like someone who has never had an alcohol or drug addiction telling people who have to just use self control. Its a little belittling . we are not all the same so try to support people as they try to learn and overcome.also, what the hell does it matter how much weight i've had to lose? you don't get muscles, deadlift 1.75x your body weight and squat the same by sitting on your *kitten*. That takes work. Are you saying that you wouldn't listen to the most successful person in your company if they hadn't failed before getting to that point? Would you not take their advice on how to someday get into a similar position? If not then that's just silly. I ALWAYS LOOK TO PEOPLE WHO ARE WHERE I WANT TO BE because obviously they've done something right. Maybe my journey will be slightly different because our circumstances are different but there are very useful bits of advice and information found by not seeing their perspective as condemnation but merely as a tool to guide my own behavior.
But we are NOT all the same, as you said. Just because someone never had a hundred pounds to lose doesn't mean they don't know anything. Jillian Michaels never had THAT much weight to lose, in my opinion. And there are tons of other fitness professionals like that.
Nobody has a perfect life. We all have difficult experiences that we have learned from. Someone who has had an alcohol addiction may be able to help someone who has had a drug addiction. Someone who has had anorexia may be able to help someone who has struggled with over-eating. Just because we've had different paths doesn't mean we can't help each other.
Not everyone is open to learning actually. Many many people are not and I wish that wasn't the case. You'd be surprised at how resistant people are to TRYING to do things in a way that defies what they think is "the best way" (usually eating as few calories as possible and working out as much as possible).0 -
it doesn't have to come across that way--that's my point. I could always take a superior's advice as condescending but I choose to USE IT to benefit me.
Lol - I imagine people would first have to be convinced that you were their superior before deciding to use your advice! Many different people give a lot of different advice. A wise person isn't just going to randomly take any piece of advice - they need to know a bit about the credentials and experience of the person giving the advice, and preferably to know a bit about the person too.0 -
My two cents.
I don't care what other people do or don't do. It's their life. I worry about myself and my family.0 -
These threads are so annoying. Why don't you send them all a message giving them proper dieting tips, according to their bodies, seeing as you clearly know everything.0
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Bumping to read later x0
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for the record i agree with most of the advice you gave.
thats exactly correct. just be aware not every person is as far along as she obviously is. at least they are on here trying to learn.
because to some people it may come off like someone who has never had an alcohol or drug addiction telling people who have to just use self control. Its a little belittling . we are not all the same so try to support people as they try to learn and overcome.also, what the hell does it matter how much weight i've had to lose? you don't get muscles, deadlift 1.75x your body weight and squat the same by sitting on your *kitten*. That takes work. Are you saying that you wouldn't listen to the most successful person in your company if they hadn't failed before getting to that point? Would you not take their advice on how to someday get into a similar position? If not then that's just silly. I ALWAYS LOOK TO PEOPLE WHO ARE WHERE I WANT TO BE because obviously they've done something right. Maybe my journey will be slightly different because our circumstances are different but there are very useful bits of advice and information found by not seeing their perspective as condemnation but merely as a tool to guide my own behavior.
But we are NOT all the same, as you said. Just because someone never had a hundred pounds to lose doesn't mean they don't know anything. Jillian Michaels never had THAT much weight to lose, in my opinion. And there are tons of other fitness professionals like that.
Nobody has a perfect life. We all have difficult experiences that we have learned from. Someone who has had an alcohol addiction may be able to help someone who has had a drug addiction. Someone who has had anorexia may be able to help someone who has struggled with over-eating. Just because we've had different paths doesn't mean we can't help each other.
Not everyone is open to learning actually. Many many people are not and I wish that wasn't the case. You'd be surprised at how resistant people are to TRYING to do things in a way that defies what they think is "the best way" (usually eating as few calories as possible and working out as much as possible).0 -
it doesn't have to come across that way--that's my point. I could always take a superior's advice as condescending but I choose to USE IT to benefit me.
Lol - I imagine people would first have to be convinced that you were their superior before deciding to use your advice! Many different people give a lot of different advice. A wise person isn't just going to randomly take any piece of advice - they need to know a bit about the credentials and experience of the person giving the advice, and preferably to know a bit about the person too.
I don't dispute this at all. However, I am well aware of who my superiors are in the field I've chosen.0 -
Thank you. I appreciate you saying this. I'm really NOT trying to be condescending in the slightest. If you only knew just how much of my time I give to helping people who do WANT the help you might be shocked. I respond to every message/question I get and with my friends I TRY to steer them in a healthy direction taking their circumstances into account.
for the record i agree with most of the advice you gave.
thats exactly correct. just be aware not every person is as far along as she obviously is. at least they are on here trying to learn.
because to some people it may come off like someone who has never had an alcohol or drug addiction telling people who have to just use self control. Its a little belittling . we are not all the same so try to support people as they try to learn and overcome.also, what the hell does it matter how much weight i've had to lose? you don't get muscles, deadlift 1.75x your body weight and squat the same by sitting on your *kitten*. That takes work. Are you saying that you wouldn't listen to the most successful person in your company if they hadn't failed before getting to that point? Would you not take their advice on how to someday get into a similar position? If not then that's just silly. I ALWAYS LOOK TO PEOPLE WHO ARE WHERE I WANT TO BE because obviously they've done something right. Maybe my journey will be slightly different because our circumstances are different but there are very useful bits of advice and information found by not seeing their perspective as condemnation but merely as a tool to guide my own behavior.
But we are NOT all the same, as you said. Just because someone never had a hundred pounds to lose doesn't mean they don't know anything. Jillian Michaels never had THAT much weight to lose, in my opinion. And there are tons of other fitness professionals like that.
Nobody has a perfect life. We all have difficult experiences that we have learned from. Someone who has had an alcohol addiction may be able to help someone who has had a drug addiction. Someone who has had anorexia may be able to help someone who has struggled with over-eating. Just because we've had different paths doesn't mean we can't help each other.
Not everyone is open to learning actually. Many many people are not and I wish that wasn't the case. You'd be surprised at how resistant people are to TRYING to do things in a way that defies what they think is "the best way" (usually eating as few calories as possible and working out as much as possible).0 -
These threads are so annoying. Why don't you send them all a message giving them proper dieting tips, according to their bodies, seeing as you clearly know everything.
These posts are so annoying. Why don't you just choose not to read "these threads" if they annoy you so much?0 -
i love it when people who haven't had a lot of weight to lose, nor had life events that cause weight gain, come around and make up these threads that try and call others out and dictate to them what they do wrong and why they are fat.
full of win!
I didn't see this any where in the thread. The fact is that there is no ONE RIGHT WAY to build lean mass and lose excess body fat (though it's very difficult to do both without the aid of performance enhancing agents). This is why those who are interested in building lean mass bulk first (this does not mean get fat). They take on more calories for many months in order to facilitate growth. And when they feel they've made enough progress gaining mass they switch up their diet and cardio habits (or simply add cardio back to their routine) in order to MAINTAIN the lean mass they just worked so hard to gain while burning body fat.
So, unless a body adheres to these types of principles (that are simple biological facts - NOT MAGIC) then they are doing it WRONG. period...
If you want to see how I know this... LOOK HERE: http://voices.yahoo.com/photos/bikinimom-pursuing-strength-living-fit-6215496.html?cat=5 20+ years of experience and STILL LEARNING EVERY DAY!!!
aren't you the same person who said they are sporting a 13yr old picture?
LOL
think you missed the point there sporty0 -
I don’t really read others diaries or complain about what they are doing but if I do decided to it will be to see why they are not succeeding and offer support or personal advice if they want any. I think if we all give more of a hand instead of our mouth it would be more of a beneficial site to others.0
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So, on a diet one chooses carefully what they can and can't eat or drink, but in a lifestyle change they do, what? Eat and drink without thought? I doubt seriously that is the case, but if so, I'll take a diet every time.
I do limit what I can and can not eat or drink. Some things are limited to occasional use only. Some are thoughtfully added on a regular basis. Food, for me at least, can be friend or foe, depending on how I choose to control it.
No on a diet someone restricts what they eat or ramps up their exercise with the intent to stop doing those behaviors once they reach their goal. A diet is short term and not sustainable. Though I guess we all have a diet of food we eat, so perhaps it's semantics in the word choice? I actually really hate the term "lifestyle change" because I think it sounds pretentious, but I also don't thinking I'm dieting, I'm just living my life and using the tools of tracking my food and exercising to be healthier and thinner.0 -
I would love to see one of you guys post a success story showing what you really eat and do. It would be very inspirational for someone like me whose just starting out. I'm doing my best to not starve myself and eat right and it does make a big difference. I can't imagine going hungry if my body needs it. Either way, would love to see a success story by someone who eats lots and exercises too. :happy:
My diary is open; I work out 6 days/week, and eat around 1500 calories every day.... sometimes more. I'm never starving!
And I've lost 35 pounds since January
Here's the thing. Including your exercise, your net over the past 7 days that you logged (there were a few blank days in there) was 1382, 1245, 941, 1544, 1373, 868, 1254. This isn't the same to me as netting 1500 per day. I'm not trying to pick on you, I promise, because my nets over the past 7 days are probably very similar, since I tend to eat around 1500 per day also along with working out. The same is true of the other gal who posted that she ate 1900 calories. Her net is around 1400 or so per day due to her workouts.
I've noticed on a general basis that a lot of people who come into these threads and talk about how much they eat each day are neglecting to talk about their actual net, which in many cases ends up falling around 1200 or sometimes much less because they are working out a lot. I mean, look, if I burn 500 calories a day, I can eat 2000 calories and still lose a pound a week. But if I don't burn 500 calories a day, I better eat much less than that if I want to lose a pound a week. So much of this is tied into the activity level. A person who isn't exercising at all and is sedentary may need to eat 1200 calories to lose weight. I really hate the across the board bashing of anyone who dares to try to eat 1200 calories a day around here. I couldn't do it, but if you can, more power to you. Until I started frequenting these boards i never heard that 1200 calories a day was EVIL.
I guess I just don't see how eating 1200 calories and not exercising at all is any different than eating 1800 calories and burning off 600 calories for a net of 1200, if both people feel good, are satiated, and meet their macros. You are still netting 1200 calories either way.0 -
it doesn't have to come across that way--that's my point. I could always take a superior's advice as condescending but I choose to USE IT to benefit me.
Lol - I imagine people would first have to be convinced that you were their superior before deciding to use your advice! Many different people give a lot of different advice. A wise person isn't just going to randomly take any piece of advice - they need to know a bit about the credentials and experience of the person giving the advice, and preferably to know a bit about the person too.
I don't dispute this at all. However, I am well aware of who my superiors are in the field I've chosen.
Well, yes, you would be - generally the experts in a field make known their experience and credentials, and they form a reputation. But you can't really compare your willingness to listen to such people with the unwillingness of random internet people to listen to another random internet person on a fitness site full of forum drama.
If you really want people to listen to your advice and take you seriously, it's helpful for them to know a bit about you and your credentials and experience. That was the point being made, up there, when you were saying 'what the hell does it matter how much weight i've had to lose?' Wise, thinking people are going to ask questions about your own journey before they take what you say as gospel - if you reply with 'why the hell does it matter?' you look defensive and lose credential right there.0 -
>> How tall are you?
I am 5'11" and currently 187 lbs. Started at 205lbs.0 -
The ones I can't take are the " I only ate 1000 calories every day this week....I worked out this morning doing xyz exercises for 2 hours. Then, I worked out that night for another two hours and am doing this 6 days a week and not losing."
That is not realistic......I read this and I cringe. I was sick when I was on 1250 calories a day trying to walk for 30 minutes/day three times per week. I don't understand how anyone that think this is sustainable or even realistic to keep up at this pace.
EVERYTHING...including exercise.....in moderation. I bumped up to 1700-1800 calories a day and feel great!0 -
it doesn't have to come across that way--that's my point. I could always take a superior's advice as condescending but I choose to USE IT to benefit me.
Lol - I imagine people would first have to be convinced that you were their superior before deciding to use your advice! Many different people give a lot of different advice. A wise person isn't just going to randomly take any piece of advice - they need to know a bit about the credentials and experience of the person giving the advice, and preferably to know a bit about the person too.
I don't dispute this at all. However, I am well aware of who my superiors are in the field I've chosen.
Well, yes, you would be - generally the experts in a field make known their experience and credentials, and they form a reputation. But you can't really compare your willingness to listen to such people with the unwillingness of random internet people to listen to another random internet person on a fitness site full of forum drama.
If you really want people to listen to your advice and take you seriously, it's helpful for them to know a bit about you and your credentials and experience. That was the point being made, up there, when you were saying 'what the hell does it matter how much weight i've had to lose?' Wise, thinking people are going to ask questions about your own journey before they take what you say as gospel - if you reply with 'why the hell does it matter?' you look defensive and lose credential right there.
I get you..the thread wasn't ever intended to be about people listening to ME though. It became that when someone brought up how much weigjt I haven't had to lose.0
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