I GAVE Up PASTA... should I give up dairy too
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No pasta and dairy = a life not worth living.
True story
I don't understand giving up foods you love. (said as I eat my chocolate pie and bacon) :happy:0 -
Dairy can act like an inflamatory in your system. After researching "paleo eating" I've given it up and seen some pleasent side effects such as ance clearing up. Try it for a month and see what happens.0
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Cheese is loaded with fat. Milk to me is just disgusting now. I used to drink a lot of it, but since being enlightened about the dairy industry I cannot drink it anymore. It's loaded with hormones, antibiotics, pus, and fecal matter. Yes, it is pasteurized, but it is still just disgusting to me. After a human is weaned there is no need or place for milk in their diet. That's what weaning is - transitioning from a milk-based diet to a food-based diet. Cow's milk is only designed to nourish calves until they're able to graze - not humans. The "Got milk?" slogan should be changed to "Got obesity and diabetes?" It has no place in the human diet. Keep reading and learning - you may make a decision on this for reasons greater that giving up dairy as a weight loss tool.
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I approach this as a lifestyle. That being so....I would ask myself do I want to not eat pasta for the rest of my life? HELL NO!!! Ditto on the dairy. I don't think nature intended us to be so restrictive. Regardless....I eat pasta a few times a week, here's the big secret, MODERATION. Keep it to a reasonable portion size. I eat dairy several times a day it helps me reach the protein and calcium goals. So unless you're allergic or intolerant, eliminating entire food groups is just plain deprivation.0
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While pasta is delicious, it's not particularly nutrient dense. Dairy, on the other hand, has quite a few benefits. I stick to small portions of full-fat dairy, per my doctors recommendation. I was told that as vitamin D, for example, is fat soluble and necessary for calcium absorption, fat-free dairy isn't as useful in attaining nutrients. I have Celiac disease and when I was first gluten-free, it was important to make sure I was getting the nutrients my body had previously been unable to absorb.
I have always found it helpful to chat with a nutritionist or doctor about a food plan, especially before cutting out whole food groups.
Soy milk and almond milk have twice the amount of calcium and about half the calories of cow's milk. Look at the labels!
If we're going to talk macros maybe we should look at protein as well. just saying.0 -
Dairy, you should NOT give it up. Why? Have you been hitting your daily calcium intake everyday? If you take dairy out of your diet, you are even less likely to get a sufficient amount of calcium - and you should get a decent amounty of calcium, especially if you're a woman! Hello osteoporosis.
You can drink skimmed milk if you're worried about fat content. Also, you could drink soy products that are enriched with calcium, but then, you'd have to be drinking you're entire calcium intake EVERYDAY because you wouldn't be getting calcium from other dairy sources such as cheese. Check your current MFP diary to see if you've been getting enough calcium even when having dairy products. I'm a dairy consumer and I still don't get enough calcium everyday.
Also, milk is usually fortified with Vitamin D. So, if you're cutting out milk, also make sure that you're getting enough sun and/or Vit. D supplements.
It may SEEM like a good idea to cut out dairy for a short amount of time...but not in the long run.0 -
I gave up pasta a couple of weeks ago. I have been substituting cauliflower and zucchini. I can honestly say I really don't miss it. It's just filler after all. I am now considering the whole dairy option. I don't include a lot of dairy in my diet anyhow.... but I do like cheese. Is this another step I should take and are there things that I can substitute for the inevitable craving?
I would give it up. too much fat.....don't want to get fat. Good call on the pasta too......Carbs are totally the problem.....well that and fat.
And protein, I'd just drink water to be safe
OMG!! You are so right! I better cut all carbs and fats because those make you fat....and protein too just to be on the safe side. I heard protein makes you bulky.
Everyone knows that cutting carbs and fat are the only way to lose weight. That, and eating 1200 calories a day!!! No wonder I'm not having any success - I'm still eating everything in moderation and eating a 20% cut from my TDEE!!
Now, I swear I had 40 extra lbs laying around here somewhere......where the heck did it go????? :laugh:0 -
Cheese is loaded with fat. Milk to me is just disgusting now. I used to drink a lot of it, but since being enlightened about the dairy industry I cannot drink it anymore. It's loaded with hormones, antibiotics, pus, and fecal matter. Yes, it is pasteurized, but it is still just disgusting to me. After a human is weaned there is no need or place for milk in their diet. That's what weaning is - transitioning from a milk-based diet to a food-based diet. Cow's milk is only designed to nourish calves until they're able to graze - not humans. The "Got milk?" slogan should be changed to "Got obesity and diabetes?" It has no place in the human diet. Keep reading and learning - you may make a decision on this for reasons greater that giving up dairy as a weight loss tool.
This,exactly0 -
I don't understand giving up foods you love. (said as I eat my chocolate pie and bacon) :happy:
I do. I love pasta and garlic bread, but I don't like the crappy feeling they give me. Sorry, but Id rather part with something I love than to keep it and keep feeling physically crappy because of it. I like this lighter, slimmer feeling much more than gaining weight and being bloated constantly. Moderation? I dont' like feeling crappy and bloated in moderation either. That's just me though.0 -
Cheese is loaded with fat. Milk to me is just disgusting now. I used to drink a lot of it, but since being enlightened about the dairy industry I cannot drink it anymore. It's loaded with hormones, antibiotics, pus, and fecal matter. Yes, it is pasteurized, but it is still just disgusting to me. After a human is weaned there is no need or place for milk in their diet. That's what weaning is - transitioning from a milk-based diet to a food-based diet. Cow's milk is only designed to nourish calves until they're able to graze - not humans. The "Got milk?" slogan should be changed to "Got obesity and diabetes?" It has no place in the human diet. Keep reading and learning - you may make a decision on this for reasons greater that giving up dairy as a weight loss tool.
This,exactly
But then.....how do I make my delicious bacon topped cupcakes???
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So tired of all these racists posts. You got a problem with Italians?
What next? You giving up fried chicken or grits or egg rolls or tacos?
Oh, think I misunderstood. Carry on . . .
Did someone say Tacos?0 -
While pasta is delicious, it's not particularly nutrient dense. Dairy, on the other hand, has quite a few benefits. I stick to small portions of full-fat dairy, per my doctors recommendation. I was told that as vitamin D, for example, is fat soluble and necessary for calcium absorption, fat-free dairy isn't as useful in attaining nutrients. I have Celiac disease and when I was first gluten-free, it was important to make sure I was getting the nutrients my body had previously been unable to absorb.
I have always found it helpful to chat with a nutritionist or doctor about a food plan, especially before cutting out whole food groups.
Soy milk and almond milk have twice the amount of calcium and about half the calories of cow's milk. Look at the labels!
If we're going to talk macros maybe we should look at protein as well. just saying.
Most of my protein comes from wholemeal bread and unsweetened soya milk. I'm almost always over my protein goal.0 -
I guess I'd ask why you want to cut dairy? If it's because you are counting fat, you might cut back, but it seems pretty extreme to cut it out all together since it brings some valuable nutrition to the table. I may not be a milk drinker but cheese and greek yogurt are pretty high on my list of good eats. When I started looking for things to cut I took out soda, seemed a simple thing that I didn't need and I could sustain forever if needed but I'm not sure I'd give up anything forever that had some value.0
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It is important not to deprive yourself of anything, just setting up for a binge. Unless you have a medical issue to do so. One word = MODERATION.0
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I don't understand giving up foods you love. (said as I eat my chocolate pie and bacon) :happy:
I do. I love pasta and garlic bread, but I don't like the crappy feeling they give me. Sorry, but Id rather part with something I love than to keep it and keep feeling physically crappy because of it. I like this lighter, slimmer feeling much more than gaining weight and being bloated constantly. Moderation? I dont' like feeling crappy and bloated in moderation either. That's just me though.
If it makes you feel bad, then yes....by all means, don't eat it. I don't eat eggs for that very reason (although I love them). I just meant as far as "I can't eat this or that because it will make me fat". Deprivation. That's what I don't get.
I eat all the same things I always ate, just in moderation and I exercise A LOT.
92 pounds down so it worked for me.
Wasn't trying to be mean or anything. 0 -
I cant eat either - I have coeliacs and also a dairy intolerance and if I had any choice I would not give either up but I do miss cheese the most ( cant have soya as highly allergic to it).0
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Cheese is loaded with fat. Milk to me is just disgusting now. I used to drink a lot of it, but since being enlightened about the dairy industry I cannot drink it anymore. It's loaded with hormones, antibiotics, pus, and fecal matter. Yes, it is pasteurized, but it is still just disgusting to me. After a human is weaned there is no need or place for milk in their diet. That's what weaning is - transitioning from a milk-based diet to a food-based diet. Cow's milk is only designed to nourish calves until they're able to graze - not humans. The "Got milk?" slogan should be changed to "Got obesity and diabetes?" It has no place in the human diet. Keep reading and learning - you may make a decision on this for reasons greater that giving up dairy as a weight loss tool.
Meat has fat, Avocado has fat, Peanuts and Almonds are Fat!
So let me get this straight: You claim that Cows milk are for baby calves?
Well are carrots for rabbits only? Should humans consume only humans?
Your idea of what someone should eat is way over the top!
By your logic I would not drink anything from animal eat anything from animal either?
Nuts are for squirrles?0 -
I think it might depend on how much you crave cheese. If you are binging on it and consistently going over calories then it might be a good idea to give it up, at least for a while.
Personally I have a hard time reaching my calcium goal without cheese.0 -
I used to be a total cheese fiend in that a regular dinner of mine was bread and cheese (and I'm not talking about grilled cheese) or fruit and cheese.
Anyway, I gave up dairy mostly 7 or 8 years ago because I thought it was too high in fat and calories but then completely gave it up 5 years ago. I can honestly say that I don't miss it one bit.0 -
I thought i'd seriously die without dairy but becomming lactose intolerant made my options kinda limited. I switched everything out for coconut/almond varieties (you can get alomd yogurt and coconut yogurt) and I do occassionally use those non-dairy cheese shreds. Look, I feel way better for it and if you don't use a lot of it then why not give it a go?0
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I don't understand giving up foods you love. (said as I eat my chocolate pie and bacon) :happy:
I do. I love pasta and garlic bread, but I don't like the crappy feeling they give me. Sorry, but Id rather part with something I love than to keep it and keep feeling physically crappy because of it. I like this lighter, slimmer feeling much more than gaining weight and being bloated constantly. Moderation? I dont' like feeling crappy and bloated in moderation either. That's just me though.
Agreed. I loved Alpro Soya chocolate milk and used to drink a litre of it every weekend. It's full of sugar and that's why I put on weight. Sometimes I'd even have two cartons a weekend. Now I don't even crave it. Cold turkey is a good way of getting over things.0 -
Nuts are for squirrles?
PLEASE insert Squirrel Nut Dance here!!!0 -
I be damn if I give anything I love!
Moderation = Success
This X a bazillion
And this x a gazillion.
I did replace cows milk with almond milk and I do make pizza with soy station soy cheese (sometimes mix it with a little 5 cheese Italian) but other than that, yogurt and cheese are important for my own personal lifestyle.
But in saying that, this is what works for me. If you make the conscience decision to give up dairy and it works for you, so be it, just make very sure that you are getting enough calcium because it is very important to us women, especially as we grow older.
I have given up a great many things over this past 5 years and if I do not miss it, I do not go back to it. If I miss it and my body absolutely craves it, I have found that I am deficient in what ever vitamin or mineral that particular food has the most of.0 -
there is a pasta called dream fields I belielve? Doesnt have carbs? Depending on your age have to watch with the dairy, need your calcium, but can also get that from dark green leafy veggies. But there are alot of lowfat dairy options out there, lowfat yogurt, cottagecheese, fat free milk if your a milk drinker. I wouldnt give it up but thats just me. I like my dairy. I suppose it depends on what your goals are and what your trying to achieve??
Dreamfields is low carb, not no carb. Here is a link to their webpage. It has less than half of the carbs of regular pasta.
http://www.dreamfieldsfoods.com/diabetes-diet.html
I would not recommend anything low fat or fat free. It is better to eat full fat in moderation then low fat or fat free.0 -
If you like it, why would you give it up?0
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I gave up pasta a couple of weeks ago. I have been substituting cauliflower and zucchini. I can honestly say I really don't miss it. It's just filler after all. I am now considering the whole dairy option. I don't include a lot of dairy in my diet anyhow.... but I do like cheese. Is this another step I should take and are there things that I can substitute for the inevitable craving?
I would give it up. too much fat.....don't want to get fat. Good call on the pasta too......Carbs are totally the problem.....well that and fat.
And protein, I'd just drink water to be safe
water and maple syrup and cayenne pepper...cleanse thyself0 -
Cut out the dairy. Cut out the rice. Cut out the bread, the meat, the vegetables, the fruit, the sugars, the fats, protein, water.
In fact; just stop eating, drinking and breathing. Because apparently according to these forums, everything is bad for you. :noway:0 -
Why should you? If you like it and you already eat it in moderation, why make life more difficult? Cutting out food groups doesn't do anything for you unless you're allergic.
Yup0 -
Cheezly and Tofutti are good UK brands for vegan cheese. There's also Sheese. Google "vegan cheese" and there will be a company that makes one where you live. You definitely need to take fortified soya, almond, hazelnut or rice milk. I use Alpro Soya unsweetend because it's so low in calories and fat and contains the B vitamins, D and iron etc.
Edited to say you can gets loads of soya yogurts, desserts, cheesecakes, mayo and so on. It all contains protein.
Why give up anything unless like said above you are intolerant or have moral reasons. All the above food (I am not sure it is real food actually IMO) is highly processed and I am not sure sure your body will like it as much as the real stuff.0 -
I eat at least one serving of cheese every damn day. There's no reason to give it up. My only caveat would be that you need to be careful with portion sizes because the calories can add up fast.0
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