I GAVE Up PASTA... should I give up dairy too

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  • snowgrrl83
    snowgrrl83 Posts: 242 Member
    I be damn if I give anything I love!

    Moderation = Success
    AGREED!
  • TheGlen
    TheGlen Posts: 242 Member
    People will always push this idea of "everything in moderation", but you need to do what works best for your body.

    Personally, we don't eat wheat/gluten, and have found such an improvement in our health that we would never go back. Our daughter also does not eat dairy, and we've noticed that she is less congested, and has not been hospitalized due to her asthma since making this modification to her diet.

    Would I love to eat pizza and garlic bread once in while? Yes! Of course, I know it would make me feel sick (even in moderation). Does my daughter want to have a "glass of real milk"? Yes, but I've watched her breath through a tube enough times to know it's not worth it.

    I would suggest experimenting with your body to see what works for you (you don't need to follow this "everything in moderation" idea). I know for us, once we improved our diet (in particular by removing wheat/gluten), we started sharing the improvements we were seeing with friends and family. Many of our friends and family who have tried removing items from their diet, didn't realize the awful affects these items were having on them until they stopped eating them (people just get used to feeling this way over time).
  • slkehl
    slkehl Posts: 3,801 Member
    No need to cut out whole food groups. They can be perfectly healthy if done right.

    My tips:
    -Look for whole wheat pasta. It's loaded with fiber and will keep you full, thus less likely to overeat. Organics at Safeway is quite tasty. Use parmesan cheese instead of a white sauce.
    -Stick to skim milk. Not too many calories there and loaded with nutrients.
    -Use cheese in moderation. The fats in it aren't bad, but you can rack up the calories quickly. MFP is a great way to make sure you don't overdo it!
  • slkehl
    slkehl Posts: 3,801 Member
    I would suggest experimenting with your body to see what works for you (you don't need to follow this "everything in moderation" idea). I know for us, once we improved our diet (in particular by removing wheat/gluten), we started sharing the improvements we were seeing with friends and family. Many of our friends and family who have tried removing items from their diet, didn't realize the awful affects these items were having on them until they stopped eating them (people just get used to feeling this way over time).

    Just so everyone knows, there is no need to eliminate gluten from your diet unless you have Celiacs Disease or some kind of gluten sensitivity. "Gluten free" does NOT mean health food! It means your digestive tract isn't working normally.
  • christimw
    christimw Posts: 183 Member
    People will always push this idea of "everything in moderation", but you need to do what works best for your body.

    AMEN! Even in "moderation" foods I used to love (breads, pastas) will make me feel crappy. I'm so over this "everything in moderation" thing. I want to be HEALTHY, not just skinny. Sure I can lose and get skinny living off fast food in moderation and not overeating, but that doesn't leave my body healthy. While I'm not a perfect eater by any means, I've come to learn that even in moderation, foods i used to be able to tolerate aren't worth hours of pain or lethargy for those few bites of ice cream or cookies. I'm actually GLAD they affect me this way now. I KNOW they aren't healthy, and knowing how I'll feel makes it easier to not want them.
  • natalie412
    natalie412 Posts: 1,039 Member
    No pasta and dairy = a life not worth living.

    Amen!!!!
  • Lina4Lina
    Lina4Lina Posts: 712 Member
    I actually don't eat pasta because I don't like it. And one thing I forgot to mention about the cheese thing is I never considered myself lactose intolerant but maybe I was. I used to have a lot of stomach issues, it wasn't tied to one food or another but around the same time I gave up eating dairy on a regular basis, I also stopped using pepto on a regular basis.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I actually don't eat pasta because I don't like it. And one thing I forgot to mention about the cheese thing is I never considered myself lactose intolerant but maybe I was. I used to have a lot of stomach issues, it wasn't tied to one food or another but around the same time I gave up eating dairy on a regular basis, I also stopped using pepto on a regular basis.


    A clue! A clue!
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I actually don't eat pasta because I don't like it. And one thing I forgot to mention about the cheese thing is I never considered myself lactose intolerant but maybe I was. I used to have a lot of stomach issues, it wasn't tied to one food or another but around the same time I gave up eating dairy on a regular basis, I also stopped using pepto on a regular basis.


    A clue! A clue!
  • Septlondon
    Septlondon Posts: 45 Member
    I actually don't eat pasta because I don't like it. And one thing I forgot to mention about the cheese thing is I never considered myself lactose intolerant but maybe I was. I used to have a lot of stomach issues, it wasn't tied to one food or another but around the same time I gave up eating dairy on a regular basis, I also stopped using pepto on a regular basis.


    A clue! A clue!

    wheat = I vomit
    dairy = I wheeze
    ....................I wonder could this mean? .........no, couldn't possibly give up something I love.

    Well I did give it up, and guess what? :)

    Bit sad about cheese though.
  • jennaworksout
    jennaworksout Posts: 1,739 Member
    I gave up pasta a long time ago, and don't miss is all!!! However, cheese and yogurt, I don't think I could do it! :bigsmile:
  • Josee76
    Josee76 Posts: 533 Member
    I gave up pasta a couple of weeks ago. I have been substituting cauliflower and zucchini. I can honestly say I really don't miss it. It's just filler after all. I am now considering the whole dairy option. I don't include a lot of dairy in my diet anyhow.... but I do like cheese. Is this another step I should take and are there things that I can substitute for the inevitable craving?

    I would give it up. too much fat.....don't want to get fat. Good call on the pasta too......Carbs are totally the problem.....well that and fat.

    Please tell me you are being sarcastic! :frown:
  • Vx3_
    Vx3_ Posts: 102 Member
    It is important not to deprive yourself of anything, just setting up for a binge. Unless you have a medical issue to do so. One word = MODERATION.

    ^THIS!
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    All female mammals produce milk once they have given birth to provide nourishment for their young. Once the young are old enough to sustain on other foods, they stop nursing and the mother’s milk dries up. The only reason a cow has for producing milk is to feed its young. Some person walked past that calf one day and decided to sample what it was getting. Dairy industry was born. So, in the natural order of things, it is UN-natural for humans to drink cow's milk.

    How is this different from someone walking past a zucchini one day and deciding to sample it? The natural reason for zucchini is to spread the seed of the plant. Does that make UN-natural for me to eat zucchini.

    Bingo. Cooking meat wasn't exactly natural, either.

    My assumption is that a bison got struck by lightening, caught fire, and smelled AMAZING. :love:
  • Septlondon
    Septlondon Posts: 45 Member
    All female mammals produce milk once they have given birth to provide nourishment for their young. Once the young are old enough to sustain on other foods, they stop nursing and the mother’s milk dries up. The only reason a cow has for producing milk is to feed its young. Some person walked past that calf one day and decided to sample what it was getting. Dairy industry was born. So, in the natural order of things, it is UN-natural for humans to drink cow's milk.

    How is this different from someone walking past a zucchini one day and deciding to sample it? The natural reason for zucchini is to spread the seed of the plant. Does that make UN-natural for me to eat zucchini.

    Bingo. Cooking meat wasn't exactly natural, either.

    My assumption is that a bison got struck by lightening, caught fire, and smelled AMAZING. :love:

    that is so funny......mental picture of very excited cave men.
  • TheGlen
    TheGlen Posts: 242 Member
    Just so everyone knows, there is no need to eliminate gluten from your diet unless you have Celiacs Disease or some kind of gluten sensitivity. "Gluten free" does NOT mean health food! It means your digestive tract isn't working normally.

    Thanks for your opinion, but many people would disagree with you on this one (perhaps you might find "Wheat Belly" an interesting read). I would argue that my digestive tract is working normally, now that it's not being aggravated by wheat/gluten. I suggest to everyone that is trying to be healthier to give it a shot and see how your body responds.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    A lot of fear mongering in this thread! There is no need to "give up" anything. Unless you have some medical condition where either dairy or wheat causes you a probelm it is just a choice to make like any other eating choice. You can include them or not.

    Pasta is calorically dense and not quite so nutritionally dense. Dairy is nutritionally dense and, if you are doing strength training, contains IGH-1 which can be very beneficial. I go organic, hormone and antibiotic free. Yogurt can be awesome with it's protein and probiotic bacteria. If you have issues digesting lactose, you can try goat's milk. But if you have none of these issues, why demonize food?? If it fit's in your macros, knock yourself out!
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    Just so everyone knows, there is no need to eliminate gluten from your diet unless you have Celiacs Disease or some kind of gluten sensitivity. "Gluten free" does NOT mean health food! It means your digestive tract isn't working normally.

    Thanks for your opinion, but many people would disagree with you on this one (perhaps you might find "Wheat Belly" an interesting read). I would argue that my digestive tract is working normally, now that it's not being aggravated by wheat/gluten. I suggest to everyone that is trying to be healthier to give it a shot and see how your body responds.

    I have. Made absolutely no difference. Some are sensitive to gluten, most are not.
  • TheGlen
    TheGlen Posts: 242 Member
    Just so everyone knows, there is no need to eliminate gluten from your diet unless you have Celiacs Disease or some kind of gluten sensitivity. "Gluten free" does NOT mean health food! It means your digestive tract isn't working normally.

    Thanks for your opinion, but many people would disagree with you on this one (perhaps you might find "Wheat Belly" an interesting read). I would argue that my digestive tract is working normally, now that it's not being aggravated by wheat/gluten. I suggest to everyone that is trying to be healthier to give it a shot and see how your body responds.

    I have. Made absolutely no difference. Some are sensitive to gluten, most are not.

    I've read several studies that say you are incorrect in saying "most are not", and in fact, most are (up to 85%). A lot of people are only mildly affected, and therefore don't recognize that the wheat/gluten is having a negative affect on them...like a slow poisoning.
  • vrstasira
    vrstasira Posts: 1
    I really don't think you need to give up cheese. I do find, however that for weight loss purposes eating cheese in moderation helps. It is a good source of calcium and protein. I don't really buy into the whole "low fat is good for you thing." I think carbs are far more problematic.
  • PiggySweet
    PiggySweet Posts: 60 Member
    miracle noodles. 0 calories.
  • slkehl
    slkehl Posts: 3,801 Member
    I've read several studies that say you are incorrect in saying "most are not", and in fact, most are (up to 85%). A lot of people are only mildly affected, and therefore don't recognize that the wheat/gluten is having a negative affect on them...like a slow poisoning.

    I thought that 85% stat was the number of undiagnosed cases out of everyone that has Celiacs rather than the population in general. Source please?
  • shannajojo
    shannajojo Posts: 192 Member
    I would not give up dairy unless directed by a doctor or if you have an allergy to dairy. I would eat dairy, but limit your intake if you're concerned about it, or drink almind milk instead of regular milk, etc, or take supplements like D3. A lot of people are Vitamin D deficient because we are told to stay out of the sun, etc.
  • Josette89
    Josette89 Posts: 244
    Hey :) Don't get discouraged.... me and my boyfriend went Paleo about a month ago. It's been really tough. No pasta, flour, bread, corn, milk, cheese, beans, sugar, and so much more. It has been tough, but I am losing a bunch of weight and feeling great. I have my slip ups from time to time but I get right back on the Paleo wagon. :)
  • nursewhitman
    nursewhitman Posts: 24 Member
    I be damn if I give anything I love!

    Moderation = Success

    ^this :smile:


    I agree with them. I think giving up anything completely just isn't realistic or very healthy.
  • zumbagada
    zumbagada Posts: 24 Member
    If you have a sensitivity to dairy, take it out for two weeks and see if you feel better. You don't have to be full-on lactose intolerant to have a sensitivity. But if you don't have a sensitivity to it, I don't see a good reason to eliminate the best source of calcium and vitamin D, and pure yummyness.
  • TheGlen
    TheGlen Posts: 242 Member
    I've read several studies that say you are incorrect in saying "most are not", and in fact, most are (up to 85%). A lot of people are only mildly affected, and therefore don't recognize that the wheat/gluten is having a negative affect on them...like a slow poisoning.

    I thought that 85% stat was the number of undiagnosed cases out of everyone that has Celiacs rather than the population in general. Source please?

    I don't have it at my finger tips (I read this about a year ago), but if I come across it again, I'll send it your way.
  • SPNLuver83
    SPNLuver83 Posts: 2,050 Member
    is there a health reason why? if not, why give it up? dairy has calcium us women need so very much. don't deprive your body of the good stuff.
  • AbbsyBabbsy
    AbbsyBabbsy Posts: 184 Member
    I've read several studies that say you are incorrect in saying "most are not", and in fact, most are (up to 85%). A lot of people are only mildly affected, and therefore don't recognize that the wheat/gluten is having a negative affect on them...like a slow poisoning.

    I thought that 85% stat was the number of undiagnosed cases out of everyone that has Celiacs rather than the population in general. Source please?

    I don't have it at my finger tips (I read this about a year ago), but if I come across it again, I'll send it your way.

    You don't have that one at your finger tips, but what about one of the others, since there are, in your words, several such studies.
  • Jacwhite22
    Jacwhite22 Posts: 7,010 Member
    Definitely give up dairy.......more Ice Cream for me.......

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