For Those Who Believe in Heaven...

One thing to remember is the modern bible has been translated edited and messed with.

Not to mention it was written to keep pesents in line.

I mean if murdering non virgins and gays is your bag crack on but remember the bible is based on nothing but stuff people wrote down 100s of years after it happend.

Faith is simply taking something as fact because it seems nice, nothing more it has no special power.

Keep the search for god personal.

One thing to remember is the modern bible has been translated edited and messed with.

Not to mention it was written to keep pesents in line.

I mean if murdering non virgins and gays is your bag crack on but remember the bible is based on nothing but stuff people wrote down 100s of years after it happend.

Faith is simply taking something as fact because it seems nice, nothing more it has no special power.

Keep the search for god personal.

Yes, the question of where we are going (after death) leads to discussing origins (where did we come from) and the authority of the bible (because it claims to know).
It was a while before I learned and understood that the bible can be trusted as the authority ( on all topics, for that matter).
Have you read it?
In the area of religion (as well as any other area) there can be liars and hypocrites, and people who generally misrepresent....even in issues of health and fitness!
Josh McDowell and CS Lewis are examples of men who went in to discredit the authority of God's word....and came away believers!
Well, I might express my faith this way:
Ultimately, even though I can see God's word lines up with God's world, it's a personal relationship.....it's the way He works in my life.
If you can completely wrap your mind around God and understand Him completely, you don't have the true God in mind! You have a god in mind that you created.
The real One is too big to fit there.

You gonna weigh-in, OP?

Nope... As life tends to be, the thread has taken a life of it's own... so enjoy!

No excuses.

Cute pic...lol
Where did the cells and atoms come from?

From the universe. Where did that come from? I have no idea, nor do I need to know, or presume to know. It's the mysteries in life that make things beautiful, and I don't need any explanations to appreciate them :flowerforyou:

Yes, where did the Universe come from.
There's no shame in searching out origins, meaning of life, and heaven/hell.
Those are important questions!

Dont go to church.....learn by looking within yourself and research on your own....church is so misleading and hypoctitical.

totally agree 110% with this!

For those who believe in Angels doing God's will and helping through our day to day trials then I personally believe you are sent who may help you the most. They do not watch they do not see they feel when you are in danger, in pain or in need of assistance from god and come to help. They are in a place of peace and love and have no need for our day to day drama. So they are there when we need them the most and it truly matters but only because we asked in our hearts for them to be there.

You gonna weigh-in, OP?

Nope... As life tends to be, the thread has taken a life of it's own... so enjoy!

No excuses.

I would use the excuse that, in this age of folks struggling to read past 140 characters, several failed to look past his/her staunch opinion to see the snark in my post...

But I'll go with this...

In life, there are only two things to worry about—
Either you are well or you are sick.
If you are well, there is nothing to worry about,

But if you are sick, there are only two things to worry about—
Either you will get well or you will die.
If you get well, there is nothing to worry about,

But if you die, there are only two things to worry about—
Either you will go to heaven or hell.
If you go to heaven, there is nothing to worry about.

And if you go to hell, you’ll be so busy shaking hands with all your friends
You won’t have time to worry!

Conversations often have a mix of the serious and the not serious.
As you just demonstrated.
And I'm sure your thread title attracted some who read it and wonder about heaven.
I'd be interested in knowing your thoughts about where you believe you will be after death?

One thing to remember is the modern bible has been translated edited and messed with.

Not to mention it was written to keep pesents in line.

I mean if murdering non virgins and gays is your bag crack on but remember the bible is based on nothing but stuff people wrote down 100s of years after it happend.

Faith is simply taking something as fact because it seems nice, nothing more it has no special power.

Keep the search for god personal.

Yes, the question of where we are going (after death) leads to discussing origins (where did we come from) and the authority of the bible (because it claims to know).
It was a while before I learned and understood that the bible can be trusted as the authority ( on all topics, for that matter).
Have you read it?
In the area of religion (as well as any other area) there can be liars and hypocrites, and people who generally misrepresent....even in issues of health and fitness!
Josh McDowell and CS Lewis are examples of men who went in to discredit the authority of God's word....and came away believers!
Well, I might express my faith this way:
Ultimately, even though I can see God's word lines up with God's world, it's a personal relationship.....it's the way He works in my life.
If you can completely wrap your mind around God and understand Him completely, you don't have the true God in mind! You have a god in mind that you created.
The real One is too big to fit there.

Ive dabbled lol

I think any person who has a brain can understand the bible is just a tool of fear and control.

Any person who lives a good life based on the fear of hell and not by there own morals is no better than an animal begging for a treat.

If god exists and turns out to be the petty child he comes across as in the bible murdering his followers just to prove a point ect it really is a sad world we live in.


Just a point for op have you ever considerd enternal life? I get bored, Think forever what would you do