Sober September anyone?

I dont really drink anyway i have a drink once in a blue moon

Tonight is a blue moon

My god are there ever a lot of alcohol-dependent people here...
(Not those who say they enjoy a drink here and there, and have no desire to give it up. the ones who say they can't possibly imagine giving it up for a month. That's a substance dependency, people...)

You diagnose remotely based on one statement?
Impressive.

If you can't possibly survive your daily life without using alcohol, that's kind of the definition of dependence. It's not a very complicated diagnosis. People are openly admitting they are dependent on it.
What I don't understand is why that sort of addiction is considered so acceptable.

People here also say they can't live without cookies, pizza, and soda. Perhaps hyperbole is at play?
If I started a "Starbucks free September" thread. People WOULD chime in and say they couldn't give it up. Some would even say they were addicted....

Many people *are* addicted to Caffeine. It's extremely addictive. The downsides of caffeine are pretty low, which is probably why it is considered socially acceptable (even socially standard in some circles) to have a hard time making it through the day without taking a stimulant. But most people with a cup of coffee every day or more habit really are physically addicted, and tend to get headaches and other symptoms if they don't get their dose for the day. Again, the fact that it is considered acceptable to be dependent on a daily stimulant (even one with minimal side effects) is absurd.

I would but I have a bachlorette party then a wedding this month, but normaly I only drink once every couple months

I have given up drinking when I play pool during the week. That was tough enough. I'm not ready to give up my one day of the weekend yet =P

My god are there ever a lot of alcohol-dependent people here...
(Not those who say they enjoy a drink here and there, and have no desire to give it up. the ones who say they can't possibly imagine giving it up for a month. That's a substance dependency, people...)

You diagnose remotely based on one statement?
Impressive.

If you can't possibly survive your daily life without using alcohol, that's kind of the definition of dependence. It's not a very complicated diagnosis. People are openly admitting they are dependent on it.
What I don't understand is why that sort of addiction is considered so acceptable.

People here also say they can't live without cookies, pizza, and soda. Perhaps hyperbole is at play?
If I started a "Starbucks free September" thread. People WOULD chime in and say they couldn't give it up. Some would even say they were addicted....

Many people *are* addicted to Caffeine. It's extremely addictive. The downsides of caffeine are pretty low, which is probably why it is considered socially acceptable (even socially standard in some circles) to have a hard time making it through the day without taking a stimulant. But most people with a cup of coffee every day or more habit really are physically addicted, and tend to get headaches and other symptoms if they don't get their dose for the day. Again, the fact that it is considered acceptable to be dependent on a daily stimulant (even one with minimal side effects) is absurd.

I kinda knew you'd hone in on the starbucks. and ignore the rest of my post.

My god are there ever a lot of alcohol-dependent people here...
(Not those who say they enjoy a drink here and there, and have no desire to give it up. the ones who say they can't possibly imagine giving it up for a month. That's a substance dependency, people...)

You diagnose remotely based on one statement?
Impressive.

If you can't possibly survive your daily life without using alcohol, that's kind of the definition of dependence. It's not a very complicated diagnosis. People are openly admitting they are dependent on it.
What I don't understand is why that sort of addiction is considered so acceptable.

People here also say they can't live without cookies, pizza, and soda. Perhaps hyperbole is at play?
If I started a "Starbucks free September" thread. People WOULD chime in and say they couldn't give it up. Some would even say they were addicted....

Many people *are* addicted to Caffeine. It's extremely addictive. The downsides of caffeine are pretty low, which is probably why it is considered socially acceptable (even socially standard in some circles) to have a hard time making it through the day without taking a stimulant. But most people with a cup of coffee every day or more habit really are physically addicted, and tend to get headaches and other symptoms if they don't get their dose for the day. Again, the fact that it is considered acceptable to be dependent on a daily stimulant (even one with minimal side effects) is absurd.

If you get a headache from not getting your daily fix of caffeine, that IS being physically addicted. Your whole statement was contradictory..

How is it contradictory to say that people who "really are physically addicted" is an example of addiction? I think you might have misread something.

No, you didn't comment on the "relevant" part. You took a small part completely out of its actual, hyperbolic context, and grossly twisted it into something it's not.

That's what we call "lack of reading comprehension."

My god are there ever a lot of alcohol-dependent people here...
(Not those who say they enjoy a drink here and there, and have no desire to give it up. the ones who say they can't possibly imagine giving it up for a month. That's a substance dependency, people...)

You diagnose remotely based on one statement?
Impressive.

If you can't possibly survive your daily life without using alcohol, that's kind of the definition of dependence. It's not a very complicated diagnosis. People are openly admitting they are dependent on it.
What I don't understand is why that sort of addiction is considered so acceptable.

People here also say they can't live without cookies, pizza, and soda. Perhaps hyperbole is at play?
If I started a "Starbucks free September" thread. People WOULD chime in and say they couldn't give it up. Some would even say they were addicted....

Many people *are* addicted to Caffeine. It's extremely addictive. The downsides of caffeine are pretty low, which is probably why it is considered socially acceptable (even socially standard in some circles) to have a hard time making it through the day without taking a stimulant. But most people with a cup of coffee every day or more habit really are physically addicted, and tend to get headaches and other symptoms if they don't get their dose for the day. Again, the fact that it is considered acceptable to be dependent on a daily stimulant (even one with minimal side effects) is absurd.

I kinda knew you'd hone in on the starbucks. and ignore the rest of my post.

Makes sense that you knew the relevant part when you posted it.
Sure, some people exaggerate some parts. I don't disagree. But I've seen a genuine sentiment of "I could not survive a month without using alcohol" on this thread and others. I commented on the relevant part.

I'll let others respond, if they choose to, to your diagnosis of them. I don't feel the need to continue. I've made my point. Cheers. (probably a "bad" sign off as far as you're concerned)

I'm good with "sober", as in not drunk for the whole month of September, but what horrific diet idea does this come from? Good health is about moderation and balance. Giving up just about anything food or drink as part of a diet...seems more like punishment for not being willing to move more, do more, find balance in other areas...anyway...sorry for the rant but...oh heck no! Good luck.