Why, thank you Bob Evan's....
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I think the more important question here is what fast food place offers the best french fries. My choice will always be Mickey D's.
I agree.0 -
Oh man, now I want one of their Royal burgers.
Egg on a burger? Genius!0 -
People want salt, sugar & fat. And they want it fast. It's simple.
When we care about our health... we'll cook something healthy at home, or go to a restaurant that serves healthier foods.0 -
I think the more important question here is what fast food place offers the best french fries. My choice will always be Mickey D's.
I think I'm the odd one here that don't like those crunchy fries. For some reason they got odd taste to it. I prefer the fries at cook at my home or from the local diner that make them out of fresh potatos rather than frozen, chemical'd out bags.
However, last time I was at Wendy's I liked their new sea salted fries. Might have been that I was just a victim to mass marketing
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I think the more important question here is what fast food place offers the best french fries. My choice will always be Mickey D's.
I found my youngest cat at a McDonald's drive thru. I swear she was there for the fries.0 -
I just saw a commercial for UNLIMITED PASTA BOWL at Olive Garden. People actually get seconds?? They're servings are HUGE! Not to mention the unlimited salad and breadsticks.
It just struck me as completely over the top and unnecessary.0 -
I just bought the "Eat This Not That" book. And there is a section of Top 20 Worst Foods in America from restaurants. It is astonishing how awful the foods are. Many meals were around 2,000- 3,000 (heck a Coldstone Creamery PB&C milkshake is over 2,000 calories!.. equivalent to 12 Twix Bars). The #1 was something that would seem fairly harmless-- Cheesecake Factory Bistro Shrimp Pasta. 2,727 calories and equivalent to 6 McDonald's Quarter Pounders. (Whereas their Grilled Mahi Mahi is only 237 cals)0
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IMO, I think a bigger contribution to America's obesity problem is the lack of education the masses seem to have on nutrition. I am pushing 30 years old, and am JUST STARTING to get it. And I ask myself WHY? I was never a stupid kid, and got ok grades: why have I never grasped the concepts of calorie deficits/exercise? Because nobody ever taught me, and I had to gain a ridiculous amount of weight before I learned it the hard way!
Instead of forcing middle and high schoolers to get pelted with dodgeballs in P.E., why not educate them on nutrition? Have them be aware of how many calories are in a greasy McFatFat, and offer healthier alternatives? Maybe do a semester on learning how to cook simple, healthy meals?
Oh my - yes please! How much better would it be to teach these important concepts in PE instead of just telling the kids to run laps?
Phy Ed is Phy Ed.....Did no one have HEALTH in Middle or High school. That's where we covered nutrition. Always the school's fault though, never at home....0 -
The OP is talking about social responsibility that corporations should have to some extent; this goes beyond harmful, fattening food, and it includes things like the environment (i.e. pollution) and socioeconomic (i.e. child labor) concerns. Health of consumers should be considered by corporations as a duty of social responsibility; for example consider tobacco, alcohol, and fast food chains. Sure, no one forces you to chain smoke and down a pound of french fries, but companies should assume some part of the responsibility in their offerings.0
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I see this thread went totally in the wrong direction......lol
^^Agreed. It's like I slapped someone in the face and told them they had to now go to Bob Evan's and eat all those fries because they read my post.
I was merely pointing out how ridiculous some restaurants are to get business. There's nothing wrong with the statement I made. If you think it's a wise decision of any restaurant (Bob Evan's or others) to offer anything like this, then good for you. I can speak my opinion, and I think it's terrible way to get business. I don't need lecturing that a restaurant is a business, blah, blah, bullsh!t. I know how businesses work, I am a marketing person. The fact that people on a FITNESS website jump down someone's throat about pointing out something incredibly unhealthy is ridiculous as well.
Good grief, people. Go have a protein shake and calm yourselves down :drinker:0 -
The OP is talking about social responsibility that corporations should have to some extent; this goes beyond harmful, fattening food, and it includes things like the environment (i.e. pollution) and socioeconomic (i.e. child labor) concerns. Health of consumers should be considered by corporations as a duty of social responsibility; for example consider tobacco, alcohol, and fast food chains. Sure, no one forces you to chain smoke and down a pound of french fries, but companies should assume some part of the responsibility in their offerings.
Why? I can get away with going somewhere having 2 beers, a burger, and 2 orders of fries and not hurt my health. I do it once a month or so. Big deal.
People need to take responsibility for themselves.0 -
I see this thread went totally in the wrong direction......lol
^^Agreed. It's like I slapped someone in the face and told them they had to now go to Bob Evan's and eat all those fries because they read my post.
I was merely pointing out how ridiculous some restaurants are to get business. There's nothing wrong with the statement I made. If you think it's a wise decision of any restaurant (Bob Evan's or others) to offer anything like this, then good for you. I can speak my opinion, and I think it's terrible way to get business. I don't need lecturing that a restaurant is a business, blah, blah, bullsh!t. I know how businesses work, I am a marketing person. The fact that people on a FITNESS website jump down someone's throat about pointing out something incredibly unhealthy is ridiculous as well.
Good grief, people. Go have a protein shake and calm yourselves down :drinker:
It's a fitness website, but I don't think it's that rediculous. I'll go to Ruby Tuesday and easily eat 2 servings of their endless fries with my meal. Not that big of deal......0 -
The OP is talking about social responsibility that corporations should have to some extent; this goes beyond harmful, fattening food, and it includes things like the environment (i.e. pollution) and socioeconomic (i.e. child labor) concerns. Health of consumers should be considered by corporations as a duty of social responsibility; for example consider tobacco, alcohol, and fast food chains. Sure, no one forces you to chain smoke and down a pound of french fries, but companies should assume some part of the responsibility in their offerings.
No one (person, corporation, or government) should have to take responsibility for the actions of adults.0 -
The OP is talking about social responsibility that corporations should have to some extent; this goes beyond harmful, fattening food, and it includes things like the environment (i.e. pollution) and socioeconomic (i.e. child labor) concerns. Health of consumers should be considered by corporations as a duty of social responsibility; for example consider tobacco, alcohol, and fast food chains. Sure, no one forces you to chain smoke and down a pound of french fries, but companies should assume some part of the responsibility in their offerings.
Wow... do corporations actually have or show social responsibility?0 -
The OP is talking about social responsibility that corporations should have to some extent; this goes beyond harmful, fattening food, and it includes things like the environment (i.e. pollution) and socioeconomic (i.e. child labor) concerns. Health of consumers should be considered by corporations as a duty of social responsibility; for example consider tobacco, alcohol, and fast food chains. Sure, no one forces you to chain smoke and down a pound of french fries, but companies should assume some part of the responsibility in their offerings.
No one (person, corporation, or government) should have to take responsibility for the actions of adults.
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I would like to thank Bob Evans for the TASTY turkey sausage breakfast patties I discovered yesterday
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::::gasps:::::: omg i want it!!Oh man, now I want one of their Royal burgers.
Egg on a burger? Genius!0 -
The wasted food is what really bothers me the most.
me too, I've always been bothered by what goes to waste at restaurants when people on the streets are starving0 -
At least they do offer healthier choices. Deaf ears no. People have to be responsible for their own choices. We leave in an age of blame blame blame. What ever happened to personal responsibility?
^ So nicely worded... I would have done it in many more sentences. But it's true... Bob Evans offers many healthy choices, and many unhealthy choices. Some people care about their fitness, and will order the healthier choice. Some people don't care, gave up, whatever their reason, and want the endless fries. Or maybe it's just a special treat for a once in a life time thing.
Regardless, so what if Bob Evans offers it? That's THEIR choice. As for those who order, that's THEIR choice too. The country is in a weight epidemic because people continue to buy the food that is cheap and convenient. If they took it away, more people would be upset then happy, also, then the country would be making the choices FOR people. Which again, will be taken badly. To keep people happy, they have to let every one make their own choice even if it's as dumb as diet coke with a big mac. So where someone chose to eat those fries and not a side salad, that does NOT mean Bob Evans is terrible for offering it. The person is either uneducated, or it's what they wanted. They made the choice, the restaurant did not force them to. I chose to be healthy, but that doesn't mean I have the right to judge some one else's life, nor they have the right to judge mine. It's just common courtesy to let them make their own choice and trust they made the right one.
Besides... there's much worse out there, look at all you can eat buffets. For some it's a nice chance to get a change up on food, for others, it's gorge yourself till you can't walk out the door. You can't blame the restaurant for the person over stuffing their self. THEY should have known their own limit and should be responsible for it.
It's not that your message is falling on deaf ears... it's that people are pointing out a point of view you don't want to hear or don't agree with because it didn't fall on your exact point.0 -
"Instead of forcing middle and high schoolers to get pelted with dodgeballs in P.E., why not educate them on nutrition? Have them be aware of how many calories are in a greasy McFatFat, and offer healthier alternatives? Maybe do a semester on learning how to cook simple, healthy meals?"
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^^^^This would be awesome!! Start teaching them about healthy eating while they're young and perhaps they will make better food choices as adults (keyword being *perhaps*). Show them how many pounds they could gain by eating a burger and AYCE fries every day, once a week, or whatever versus a healthy version and serving size.0 -
The OP is talking about social responsibility that corporations should have to some extent; this goes beyond harmful, fattening food, and it includes things like the environment (i.e. pollution) and socioeconomic (i.e. child labor) concerns. Health of consumers should be considered by corporations as a duty of social responsibility; for example consider tobacco, alcohol, and fast food chains. Sure, no one forces you to chain smoke and down a pound of french fries, but companies should assume some part of the responsibility in their offerings.
No one (person, corporation, or government) should have to take responsibility for the actions of adults.
Yeah? :huh:
If you're in marketing then you should know that no one can take the responsibility of another adults decision UNLESS said adult is deemed incompetent, in which case they have a trusted family member or aide that will make choices based on their needs and past favorite things. If you were to tell someone that THIS is all you get, you will have problems, especially if it's started somewhere where that's not common point.0 -
The OP is talking about social responsibility that corporations should have to some extent; this goes beyond harmful, fattening food, and it includes things like the environment (i.e. pollution) and socioeconomic (i.e. child labor) concerns. Health of consumers should be considered by corporations as a duty of social responsibility; for example consider tobacco, alcohol, and fast food chains. Sure, no one forces you to chain smoke and down a pound of french fries, but companies should assume some part of the responsibility in their offerings.
Companies are in business to make money. And only that. Again, personal responsibility. It is not a company's moral obligation to ensure we eat right. Now I do agree with the pollution issue as we have no choice over that matter if they are polluting the air. But the health of the consumer reallly isn't their concern at all. They are in it to make money.0 -
The OP is talking about social responsibility that corporations should have to some extent; this goes beyond harmful, fattening food, and it includes things like the environment (i.e. pollution) and socioeconomic (i.e. child labor) concerns. Health of consumers should be considered by corporations as a duty of social responsibility; for example consider tobacco, alcohol, and fast food chains. Sure, no one forces you to chain smoke and down a pound of french fries, but companies should assume some part of the responsibility in their offerings.
No one (person, corporation, or government) should have to take responsibility for the actions of adults.
Yeah? :huh:
If you're in marketing then you should know that no one can take the responsibility of another adults decision UNLESS said adult is deemed incompetent, in which case they have a trusted family member or aide that will make choices based on their needs and past favorite things. If you were to tell someone that THIS is all you get, you will have problems, especially if it's started somewhere where that's not common point.
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[/quote]"Instead of forcing middle and high schoolers to get pelted with dodgeballs in P.E., why not educate them on nutrition? Have them be aware of how many calories are in a greasy McFatFat, and offer healthier alternatives? Maybe do a semester on learning how to cook simple, healthy meals?"
^^^^This would be awesome!! Start teaching them about healthy eating while they're young and perhaps they will make better food choices as adults (keyword being *perhaps*). Show them how many pounds they could gain by eating a burger and AYCE fries every day, once a week, or whatever versus a healthy version and serving size.
They do, it's called HEALTH CLASS. Where did you people go to school?
I had a healthy cooking class in HS as well.....imagine that.0 -
"Instead of forcing middle and high schoolers to get pelted with dodgeballs in P.E., why not educate them on nutrition? Have them be aware of how many calories are in a greasy McFatFat, and offer healthier alternatives? Maybe do a semester on learning how to cook simple, healthy meals?"
^^^^This would be awesome!! Start teaching them about healthy eating while they're young and perhaps they will make better food choices as adults (keyword being *perhaps*). Show them how many pounds they could gain by eating a burger and AYCE fries every day, once a week, or whatever versus a healthy version and serving size.
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OOO! The movie supersize me! That made me not even desire McDonald's! They do teach some nutrition in school, but it's just the "you should eat ___ twice a day" etc. But I love the idea of maybe home ec doing a semester of healthy, easy meals to prepare for the real world. Or even show the comparison of a burger has as many calories as ____. Maybe seeing that you can eat more calories and have more food that is better for your body they will think again.
But that's just about it. Educate the kids so when they get out they will make the better choices and not jump to a McDonald's for their dinner every night! I don't think enough people even know how to cook any more!0 -
[/quote]"Instead of forcing middle and high schoolers to get pelted with dodgeballs in P.E., why not educate them on nutrition? Have them be aware of how many calories are in a greasy McFatFat, and offer healthier alternatives? Maybe do a semester on learning how to cook simple, healthy meals?"
^^^^This would be awesome!! Start teaching them about healthy eating while they're young and perhaps they will make better food choices as adults (keyword being *perhaps*). Show them how many pounds they could gain by eating a burger and AYCE fries every day, once a week, or whatever versus a healthy version and serving size.
OOO! The movie supersize me! That made me not even desire McDonald's! They do teach some nutrition in school, but it's just the "you should eat ___ twice a day" etc. But I love the idea of maybe home ec doing a semester of healthy, easy meals to prepare for the real world. Or even show the comparison of a burger has as many calories as ____. Maybe seeing that you can eat more calories and have more food that is better for your body they will think again.
But that's just about it. Educate the kids so when they get out they will make the better choices and not jump to a McDonald's for their dinner every night! I don't think enough people even know how to cook any more!
Did no one go to a school with Health class? Wow.0 -
"Instead of forcing middle and high schoolers to get pelted with dodgeballs in P.E., why not educate them on nutrition? Have them be aware of how many calories are in a greasy McFatFat, and offer healthier alternatives? Maybe do a semester on learning how to cook simple, healthy meals?"
^^^^This would be awesome!! Start teaching them about healthy eating while they're young and perhaps they will make better food choices as adults (keyword being *perhaps*). Show them how many pounds they could gain by eating a burger and AYCE fries every day, once a week, or whatever versus a healthy version and serving size.
OOO! The movie supersize me! That made me not even desire McDonald's! They do teach some nutrition in school, but it's just the "you should eat ___ twice a day" etc. But I love the idea of maybe home ec doing a semester of healthy, easy meals to prepare for the real world. Or even show the comparison of a burger has as many calories as ____. Maybe seeing that you can eat more calories and have more food that is better for your body they will think again.
But that's just about it. Educate the kids so when they get out they will make the better choices and not jump to a McDonald's for their dinner every night! I don't think enough people even know how to cook any more!
Did no one go to a school with Health class? Wow.
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Did you read me saying that I did? Granted, this was about... 10 years ago, but 10 years ago health class was about a food pyramid. And I never had a single day in home ec, so I can't tell you if they did or not not take time to teach healthy cooking. Only movie I ever saw in my school life that even made me question some foods was Concrete Jungle about the meat industry...0 -
one time .... when big macs were 2 for $2 I ate 12 in a sitting0
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Because if there's anything this country needs, it's endless, all-you-can-eat french fries with a massively unhealthy hamburger.
Congrats on a great contribution to this country's ridiculous obesity problem. Whoever came up with this one is a total genius. :noway:
i agree. i think it's ridiculous. can't be banned though, because there will be too big an uproar! I avoid those places as well, because as we all know about choices, i don't make them well when i'm in that kind of environment. 0 -
Not only did I have health class in high school, but we also learned about healthy eating in elementary school as well. And I also had parents that taught me about eating healthy, making my own choices, how to choose smart things for myself, to care about my own general well-being, and to take responsibility for my own actions.
When I moved out of my parents house for the first time I ate a ton of Taco Bell and McDonald's. I also drank a lot of Capri Sun since it was always on sale and usually had plenty of chips and cookies in the house to munch on because they were tasty and cheap.
For awhile I worked at a specialty food store with a full kitchen where we offered up hot and cold foods, a full sandwich counter and catering. I ate a ton of fried foods there and plenty of other foods that weren't bad foods, I just ate a lot of them since they were readily available.
Was it my parents fault that I ate at fast food places and ate mostly junk food when I moved out? Nope, all mine because I was too lazy to cook and was always looking for the cheap and easy way out.
Was it Taco Bell or McDonald's fault that I always ate there? Not at all, they were simply the two closest places with drive-thrus near my first apartments.
Was it the grocery stores fault for having sales on unhealthy food items? No, I just chose to buy them because I thought they were delicious, but I knew that I wasn't eating like I should, I just liked eating the junk food because again, cheap and easy.
Was it the fault of the chef at the store for making the food that I ate while I was at work? Not at all. There were also really nice, fresh salads available in store, a produce market directly across from the store, different sauce and bread options I could have made on the sandwiches, etc. I just chose to eat what I wanted instead of what was better for me.
But guess what, I also made the choice to lose the weight and make myself a better version of me. I downloaded the MFP app and set out to work on fixing all the wrongs I had done to myself. I don't blame a single person or company for the weight I gained other than myself. Because I never needed to eat those things. I wasn't ever forced to consume that food. I chose what I ate, every single time.
I don't expect companies to take the blame for the fat that packed onto my body over the years. Because for all of the companies out there making food that's bad for us, there are companies that are making good food. Every time I went to the store and bought chips and cookies, there were fruits and veggies just a few aisles down. Every time I chose the arancini and fried chicken fingers out of the case at work, there were spinach salads and grilled salmon right next to it. Each time I opted to stop at McDonald's or Taco Bell, I could have made my own food, chosen a salad or lighter option from their menu, or even just chosen to not order enough food to feed a small family. But I didn't, not until I joined MFP.
Those were MY choices. Me being fat was MY fault. I'm an adult, I am the one that made it happen. But I'm also the one that decided to make the change and stop doing those things. And that is what it ultimately comes down to.0
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