Forced flu shot at work

If you're working in a hospital, I totally understand. It's mandatory in the hospital where I work at as well and I would actually feel bad about subjecting any patients of mine to the flu just because I didn't feel like getting the shot.

A huge part of me says "BUT IT'S YOUR CHOICE!!!!" But, at the same time, if you work in hospital... You're dealing with already sick people, and don't want to pass anything along to them -- you're also exposed to it much more than most people, and hospitals are (usually) under-staffed as it is.

In MY workplace, I'd be pretty pissed. In yours, I can understand the reasoning.

I work for a hospital too with the same policy, but I don't work in a hospital. I work in an office building doing IT/IS work in computers. I have no patient contact. Nor do I work with people who have patient contact. So what about people like me who are still forced to get a flu shot even without patient contact?

A huge part of me says "BUT IT'S YOUR CHOICE!!!!" But, at the same time, if you work in hospital... You're dealing with already sick people, and don't want to pass anything along to them -- you're also exposed to it much more than most people, and hospitals are (usually) under-staffed as it is.

In MY workplace, I'd be pretty pissed. In yours, I can understand the reasoning.

I work for a hospital too with the same policy, but I don't work in a hospital. I work in an office building doing IT/IS work in computers. I have no patient contact. Nor do I work with people who have patient contact. So what about people like me who are still forced to get a flu shot even without patient contact?

Where I totally understand what you are saying about being in IT (that's what my dad did in a hospital for years). It is much easier for a hospital to just say everyone rather than saying..."ok exclude IT, maintenance, etc."

Off the subject a tad bit. Do you know that pharmacist how mix chemo get cancer themselves? Because it has cancer causing agents in it. There is one pharmacist who has not died from it as of yet and she has been spread the word to all who will listen.

The worst place to be to catch germs is in a hospital. My sister was hospitalized earlier this year due to a heart attack and left there very sick with a cold.

In my city, nurses are required to get vaccinated for Hep C if they haven't already. They also have to keep their TB and tetanus up to date, along with a slew of other vaccinations. The hospital covers the costs since it's mandated. I really don't see the big deal with adding a flu shot into the mix. When you work in a medical setting, you have to take absolutely every single precaution possible for the protection of the patients and their families.

Think of it this way: the hospital is often bound to their lawyers, who will do everything in their power to prevent a possible lawsuit. The second a nurse sneezes on Grandma, that nurse opens them up to a lawsuit if Grandma dies of pneumonia. Sure, it would be hard to prove that particular nurse caused it, but the hospital is still going to settle in order to keep it from going eight rounds in court.

Thimerosol has been used since the 1930s . The MMR started being used in the mid 60's.

If there was any correlation between Autism and vaccines, the rate of Autism would have sky rocketed decades ago.


Autism is typically detected at a specific age, which happens to coincide with vaccines. Does this mean the vaccine causes it?
No. Japan dropped the MMR and guess what? The rate of Autism GREW. Should the vaccines be scattered more due to the assault it does on the body by nature? Absolutely. (SOOO glad I didn't have the internet when my kids were under 3!!!)
With people spouting

There are side affects to every drug out there. I've had Epilepsy since I was 11 and the doctors were never able to fully control my seizures until I was *30* I couldn't drive til I was 32.
Guess what the side affect of one of the drugs I now take? Death. Your lips swell and you die.
Most every medicine out there has poison in it. The cure for cancer is pure poison. It's absolutely sad that children suffered these side affects due to vaccines, but a high percentage do not and is not a reason to not vaccinate children.

In roughly the last 150 years, measles has been estimated to have killed about 200 million people worldwide. During the 1850s, measles killed a fifth of Hawaii's people. In 1875, measles killed over 40,000 Fijians, approximately one-third of the population.
If less than 85% of people don't get vaccinated, there will be a huge epidemic of measles. This isn't something to take lightly.

Pertussis (whooping cough) was once a dreaded disease of childhood — killing 5,000 to 10,000 Americans a year from the 1920s through the 1940s — but is now a risk mostly to infants, to whom it is fatal in about 1 percent of cases. Most of the victims in Washington, as in previous outbreaks in other states, are between 8 and 12.

Small pox killed an estimated 400,000 Europeans per year during the closing years of the 18th century, During the 20th century, it is estimated that smallpox was responsible for 300–500 million deaths. As recently as early 1950s an estimated 50 million cases of smallpox occurred in the world each year. It was eradicated in '79 due to heavy vaccination.

To say vaccinations are evil and to discourage people from getting them is a huge disservice to children everywhere. Sure, space them out, that's fine. To to deny your child a vaccination is just begging for trouble.

Thimerosol has been used since the 1930s . The MMR started being used in the mid 60's.

If there was any correlation between Autism and vaccines, the rate of Autism would have sky rocketed decades ago.


Autism is typically detected at a specific age, which happens to coincide with vaccines. Does this mean the vaccine causes it?
No. Japan dropped the MMR and guess what? The rate of Autism GREW. Should the vaccines be scattered more due to the assault it does on the body by nature? Absolutely. (SOOO glad I didn't have the internet when my kids were under 3!!!)
With people spouting

There are side affects to every drug out there. I've had Epilepsy since I was 11 and the doctors were never able to fully control my seizures until I was *30* I couldn't drive til I was 32.
Guess what the side affect of one of the drugs I now take? Death. Your lips swell and you die.
Most every medicine out there has poison in it. The cure for cancer is pure poison. It's absolutely sad that children suffered these side affects due to vaccines, but a high percentage do not and is not a reason to not vaccinate children.

In roughly the last 150 years, measles has been estimated to have killed about 200 million people worldwide. During the 1850s, measles killed a fifth of Hawaii's people. In 1875, measles killed over 40,000 Fijians, approximately one-third of the population.
If less than 85% of people don't get vaccinated, there will be a huge epidemic of measles. This isn't something to take lightly.

Pertussis (whooping cough) was once a dreaded disease of childhood — killing 5,000 to 10,000 Americans a year from the 1920s through the 1940s — but is now a risk mostly to infants, to whom it is fatal in about 1 percent of cases. Most of the victims in Washington, as in previous outbreaks in other states, are between 8 and 12.

Small pox killed an estimated 400,000 Europeans per year during the closing years of the 18th century, During the 20th century, it is estimated that smallpox was responsible for 300–500 million deaths. As recently as early 1950s an estimated 50 million cases of smallpox occurred in the world each year. It was eradicated in '79 due to heavy vaccination.

To say vaccinations are evil and to discourage people from getting them is a huge disservice to children everywhere. Sure, space them out, that's fine. To to deny your child a vaccination is just begging for trouble.

Thalidomide, DES, anyone? They always tell you it's safe until they can't anymore. The lemmings believe until they see with their own eyes. Then, they grieve.

Thalidomide, DES, anyone? They always tell you it's safe until they can't anymore. The lemmings believe until they see with their own eyes. Then, they grieve.

guess what? thalidomide is a good drug, when used for the RIGHT reasons in the RIGHT people! it is a great drug for treating leprosy, as well as some complications associated with HIV. drugs are powerful things, but they are AMAZING when used correctly.

There is a lot of bad science in this thread. Some of you should stop believing what you read on the internet and start reading peer-reviewed scientific studies. When you stop buying into conspiracies and start reading the science, you'll see the benefits of these vaccinations far outweigh the risks.

I'm sure I wouldn't appreciate being forced to do something or be fired, but I personally think it's a good idea for them to require you all get a flu shot.

Thalidomide, DES, anyone? They always tell you it's safe until they can't anymore. The lemmings believe until they see with their own eyes. Then, they grieve.

And the lives of hundreds of millions of people saved is what? Just to sit there and be ignored?
Is it 100% safe? Good lord no. Nothing is. I even specifically stated it is not 100% safe. However the statistics and the children not dying by the thousands says enough.

If you want to put you or your child's life at risk, that is fine. Just keep them away from infants and pregnant women. You shouldn't force your ignorance to cost the life of someone else. In 2010, 10 infants needlessly died because of people like you not believing in vaccinations. They do work, and yes, in very small statistics, they are devastating. But to completely stop vaccinations would cause a helluva lot more deaths than vaccinations.

Hmmm, I wonder why this exists?

National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program

http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/index.html

I work in a nursing home and it's not mandatory..thank goodness
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passes out when the needle just comes into the room

we have to do the same, but we wont be fired if we choose not to we would be required to wear a mask:yawn: