What is considered 'cheating' (mature relationships)

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  • AmericanCowboy76
    AmericanCowboy76 Posts: 99 Member
    I will give you the take of a man who loved his wife with all his heart only to lose her to death giving birth to our daughter. Hate on what I say, disagree, whatever....

    First let me say i have walked the flesh mile. In my early twenties (Im 35 now) I dang near slept with a diff woman every night and had 3sums, 4 sums, etc. But I was single. Once you enter marriage that is sacred and special. You decide to become one. You get in eachothers way so to speak. And because of this, any type of attachment or act that pulls you from your marriage is cheatiing. If your talking filthy to someone on MFP thats cheating. Thats taking away from the bond with your spouse. If you sleep with someone else thats cheating. Anythign that interfeers with your commintment to your marriage is cheating.

    Im just a dumb cowboy, thats no joke. But I would even say 3sums in marriage are bad. Its just playing with fire. Why should anyone ever need anyone but their spouse anyway? Whatever kind of vanilla or kink your into, if your truly focused on pleasing your partner, its going to be amazing!

    The best thing is to look for why you fell in love with your spouse to begin with and just adore them and find contiment in that.
  • NormalSaneFLGuy
    NormalSaneFLGuy Posts: 1,344 Member
    when someone is penetrating or getting penetrated, or else when someone falls in love with someone else.
  • ktmmom189
    ktmmom189 Posts: 132 Member
    If you look at anyone and think they are attractive you are cheating. If I ever catch my wife looking in a calvin klein catalog, its divorce time.

    I hope you are kidding
  • ktmmom189
    ktmmom189 Posts: 132 Member
    Anything that makes you have to ask this question!!!!

    So agree. You wouldn't be asking if it didn't bother you.
  • ktmmom189
    ktmmom189 Posts: 132 Member
    I don't know if I agree with you or not because even with your "clarification," your post is nonsensical.
    Ok. Here's the deal. A friend of mine asked me what 'we' (the wife and I) thought about threesomes. I didn't know. I thought about it for a bit and brought it up with the wife. She mentioned that some time ago a friend of hers asked her what 'she' thought about threesomes, because she and her husband we're in the market to find a third person (female) to do it with. I was bothered that her thoughts on this were important and mine weren't. Hence the golden rule.

    If I was asked this I would just tell them no I don't believe in this and wouldn't mention it to my husband until later. I have opinions/values of my own and for me this falls into that category and I don't ask or even think of him necessarily because no harm is being done. However, if I ever wanted to consider this then definitely he would be the 1st I would talk too.
  • jg627
    jg627 Posts: 1,221 Member
    I don't know if I agree with you or not because even with your "clarification," your post is nonsensical.
    Ok. Here's the deal. A friend of mine asked me what 'we' (the wife and I) thought about threesomes. I didn't know. I thought about it for a bit and brought it up with the wife. She mentioned that some time ago a friend of hers asked her what 'she' thought about threesomes, because she and her husband we're in the market to find a third person (female) to do it with. I was bothered that her thoughts on this were important and mine weren't. Hence the golden rule.

    If I was asked this I would just tell them no I don't believe in this and wouldn't mention it to my husband until later. I have opinions/values of my own and for me this falls into that category and I don't ask or even think of him necessarily because no harm is being done. However, if I ever wanted to consider this then definitely he would be the 1st I would talk too.
    Whether we would or wouldn't is irrelevant, although it was my suggestion that hell no would have been the appropriate response. What bothered me is, you don't ask someone female about their opinion an three ways and say you're looking for a female to join you in a threeway unless that person is the one you're sizing up. People test the water first to see if you're game. The fact that anyone would think of asking someone who's married and just makes the assumption that the husband doesn't need to know seems creepy and inappropriate to me.
  • urloved33
    urloved33 Posts: 3,323 Member
    Simple really, if you won't do it, write it, read it or say it in front of your mate...it's wrong in the eyes of the other person.
  • MouseFood
    MouseFood Posts: 169 Member
    I feel like, if you have to ask yourself the question, you've already answered it ;)
  • zombie_porno
    zombie_porno Posts: 199 Member
    It can only be defined by each couple. If either partner is uncomfortable with something, it shouldn't happen. I think sexting is total infidelity, but a lot of couples wouldn't care. Making out with anyone besides your partner is wrong in my eyes, but a lot of couples are okay with that. It really just depends on each person's comfort levels. As long as you're both open & communicative & respectful, I think that's the important thing.
  • zombie_porno
    zombie_porno Posts: 199 Member
    when someone is penetrating or getting penetrated, or else when someone falls in love with someone else.

    So it's okay to sneak around giving hand jobs in secret, as long as there's no penetration?
  • HeidiMightyRawr
    HeidiMightyRawr Posts: 3,343 Member
    Anything that you agree is unacceptable to do with another person while you're in a relationship.

    For me it's; kissing, sexually touching, sex...

    I say if you're in an open relationship and you have sex with someone else while your partner isn't there, then that's not cheating. You agreed on those terms for the relationship so what's the issue? Even the word cheating implies going behind someone's back, not playing fairly etc etc and if you're in the "rules" of what you both believe then I don't see how it can be cheating.
  • karenwill2
    karenwill2 Posts: 604 Member
    In my eyes cheating is anytime you turn to someone other than your spouse/SO for something you would normally get from them. Theres both physical and emotional cheating...both are hard to recover from.


    This!!! The exception being porn. Men need porn every now and again. Hiding it is cheating though. Talking to other women online is also cheating.

    Now, if my husband was to have a a girlfriend that cleaned my house, then that would most likely be okay. WE have this agreed upon. If she will double as a maid, then I will share. Likewise, if I have a bf that will do all the jobs my hubby hates, that is fair too.
  • Debbe2
    Debbe2 Posts: 2,071 Member
    What do you consider cheating? For me, I have what I call 'the golden rule'. That is, I go where she goes, period. That pretty much rules out swapping / borrowing / lending and includes any expression of sexuality/emotional attachment between people regardless of gender. Maybe that sounds restrictive to some, but not necessarily, if you're creative about avoiding golden rule violations. What do you guys think?

    For clarification: the golden rule refers to sexy time practices, not like going to the mall or hanging with friends and whatnot.

    No idea what this means! Seriously though- friendship, compassion, loyalty, commitment, attraction, enjoyment and life partner pretty much takes care of all the feelings without needing restrictions or rules. In my mind these are the necessary ingredients for a happy, healthy, long term committed relationship.
  • tmauck4472
    tmauck4472 Posts: 1,785 Member
    If you look at anyone and think they are attractive you are cheating. If I ever catch my wife looking in a calvin klein catalog, its divorce time.

    I'm sorry but looking is a very healthy part of life. If you aren't looking then you aren't being a healthy adult. You can even talk to others you think are good looking without it being considered cheating. It's when you do things that you don't want your SO to know about or see you doing, or hear of you doing, that's the bad part. Most people aren't looking to see who they want to sleep with but looking at a hot guy and saying oh WOW is not bad, but looking and saying yeah that person I'm going to pursue and see where it leads is bad.
    Come on, you'd really leave if your SO was looking at a Calvin Klein model ? That IMO is so unhealthy and your relationship is in trouble with thoughts like that. I for one would NOT stand for a man controling who I can and can't look at.
  • jg627
    jg627 Posts: 1,221 Member
    I didn't say we had an open relationship.
  • Some people are secure in their relationship and others aren't. It varies depending on the couple and the level of trust they have with each other.

    Each couple makes their own rules, there isn't one set that everyone lives by.


    EXACTLY...
  • ritoosh
    ritoosh Posts: 190
    it just depends on the couple...like for me i dont care if they look or flirt (which a lot of people have problems with) but once they get touchy feely or phone number swapped is cheating to me. but im a pretty open person it takes a lot for it to bother me or whatever
  • Anything that breaks the rules he and I have agreed on is cheating.

    Of course, the rules we have agreed on let me have a boyfriend and him have all sorts of fun times at the swing club on the weekends. But we still have rules, and each of us would be quite upset if the other broke them. However, as we've been together eighteen years, we've got a set of rules that don't bind us in ways we find uncomfortable, and most are more in the realm of common courtesy.... letting the person you live with know what you're up to, not arbitrarily changing plans, etc.
  • froeschli
    froeschli Posts: 1,292 Member
    My hubby's an extreme flirt. and that's it. i sometimes get pissy because i'd like him to flirt with me a bit more, but hey, sometimes i am just the nagging wife :-p
    Neither of us would cheat on the other, and definitely noone would bring anyone home (our supreme head of household - aka king shepeherd - wouldn't allow it :laugh: ).
    As a friend of mine puts it "You can read the menu (or work up an appetite) wherever you like, but you eat at home." <---- that's metaphor btw.

    But in the end, cheating is whatever goes against the (understood) rules of your specific relationship. If your partner needs reminding, or if those rules have to be laid out in the open, chances are the two of you are expecting different things and it is time to reevaluate.
  • I'm pretty strict on my cheating standards.. I think even looking at another woman/man in any way but a good wholesome friendship way.. is cheating.. Looking at Porn is cheating in my book.
  • Phaedra2014
    Phaedra2014 Posts: 1,254 Member
    Cheating is what you know will hurt your loved one and break her/his trust in you.
  • k900
    k900 Posts: 140 Member
    I consider cheating to be kissing or anything more. I consider sexting to be cheating. I would also consider it to be cheating if my boyfriend formed a strong emotional relationship with a woman he wasn't related to.
  • Summerful
    Summerful Posts: 46 Member
    Q: What is considered cheating?

    My answer: If I am in a committed relationship like I am currently, we both agree we should only express our interest in each other (attractiveness). We got jealous easily in the past, over small things, and learned to make changes to suit us both. Nobody should have to feel not special during a relationship (in my opinion). If the relationship needs some "spicing up", then talk about it and make it happen! :) Just aslong as your in agreement about the situation it sounds good to me.
  • carriempls
    carriempls Posts: 326 Member
    Cheating is whatever the couple involved decides is cheating. My rule of thumb is if you don't want to tell your partner about it, it's probably cheating. If you wouldn't want your partner to do it, it's probably cheating.
  • NormalSaneFLGuy
    NormalSaneFLGuy Posts: 1,344 Member
    when someone is penetrating or getting penetrated, or else when someone falls in love with someone else.

    So it's okay to sneak around giving hand jobs in secret, as long as there's no penetration?

    That's hand penetration silly.
  • heytherestephy
    heytherestephy Posts: 356 Member
    LOL you said sexytime, i love it.
    that's what i refer to intimacy with when i'm with my partner hahaha.

    sorry, that was immature, anyway i agree. i do feel the same way. i don't think it's unreasonable for you to want to be involved if your SO is going to be seeing someone else sexually (and if they're emotionally involved, yeah.. uh.. it's time to move on and split up).
  • Cheating is doing anything you wouldn't want him or her to know about. Period.
  • sbilyeu75
    sbilyeu75 Posts: 567 Member
    Cheating is doing something sexual or intimate with someone else that you wouldn't want your spouse to find out about.

    All relationships are you unique and have different rules. But ^^^^^ seems to be the constant.
  • enewsome2
    enewsome2 Posts: 355 Member
    If you do something with the opposite sex that you wouldn't want your spouse to see or know about, it's cheating.
  • enewsome2
    enewsome2 Posts: 355 Member
    Cheating is doing something sexual or intimate with someone else that you wouldn't want your spouse to find out about.

    All relationships are you unique and have different rules. But ^^^^^ seems to be the constant.

    Didn't realise someone just posted this. Lol.
    At least we're on the same page, here :)