What does Lulu Lemon have against fat people?
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I find that in general, most sports clothing lines do not cater to overweight women. It's only been in the past year or two that I've even noticed plus sized Nike and Adidas clothing for women in stores. Before, XL was the largest they went up to, which would have been probably a size 14. Now that the big dogs are on board, maybe Lululemon will follow suit.
It's not just the sports clothing lines. From my experience, it's ANY clothing line.0 -
Simple; Brands like this don't want their name stamped on a fat *kitten*, Its bad advertising.
Honestly (coming from a fashion background) the basic answer to your question is that fat people don't fit the brand profile they are trying to project, which is probably true of most high brand sports labels, and majority of high brand fashion labels. It is a big part of a brand to present and project a lifestyle, look at advertising, the concept of advertising a brand is to make you want the lifestyle associated with that brand, most fashion brands are associated with slim, sexy, successful, youthful and attractive, and basically if you are not fitting into that, the brand doesn't really want their name stamped on you...Sorry I know Its harsh, and majorly unfair, but that's brands, Another factor is also cost...it takes a lot more fabric to make bigger sizes, so the production costs between an XS and an XL would be different, now considering that brands cant sell and item for a higher price in the larger sizes with out seeming totally unfair, to keep a good profit margin, they simply don' make the larger sizes.0 -
Hm, I totally agree. And it isn't just Lulu. I work for a rather large sporting goods retailer, and we carry several premium brands (no Lulu though, not sure why), and we carry almost NO plus sized clothing. The thing that drives me nuts is that when we do get a line or collection in that it sells out right away. Keep writing and calling the companies, including any retailers you go to. It is such a missed market.0
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my workout gear consists of:
Sweat pants
Old shirts
Free shirts (for participating in certain events, etc.)
because i think it's silly to pay extra for clothes that i'm going to sweat my *kitten* of in and only wear for an hour or two each day
Exactly- Ive been reading this tread trying to figure out why it even exists... its a sweaty work out not a fashion show. There are wick away the sweat clothes at wal mart and target- which are online- Never heard of this lemon store - but it sounds pointless. .a store just for work out clothes? dumb. Work out clothes are anything that breathes and is comfy- free is even better - pricey is stupid.
Yup!!!0 -
An interesting observation - I was at SportsCheck this weekend checking out what they had on sale for workout gear. The only sizes that were on the sales rack for the ladies were the 1X, 2X, and 3X. So, maybe this means that plus-size workout gear generally doesn't sell well (perhaps because a lot of people don't realize that they actually do carry larger sizes?)0
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The gross generalizations in this thread are awesome. My apparently non-athletic, non-workout self just finished a 50 mile ultra wearing a pair of their shorts. I don't actually like most of their line of clothing and their sales people annoy me but their shorts (and only one particular model at that, I don't like most of their other shorts either) are part of my go-to training/racing gear. They hold up to the couple thousand plus training miles a year I put in them and they don't chafe even after being in them for 10 or 12 hours. I'm not a real exerciser or a real athlete. I just play one on TV.0
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I've never even heard of Lulu Lemon, nor am I interested as I don't need overpriced workout gear. I can't shop at Victoria's secret as they stopped carrying XL panties and large sized bras and layne bryant is too far away to make the trip. But yeah, plus sized women aren't well represented in any "fashionable" and "hip" stores, that's because society wants us to feel horrible about our bodies when we shouldn't.0
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I've purchased Lulu workout clothes (among other brands) for the past several years. Their technical fabric is nothing special (it literally is the same as other sports brands) but I've always liked their design & fit.
Sadly, I've noticed -- really, in the past year -- that the quality is going down and the prices are going up. I've even had to recently return a couple of pieces because they frayed after a single washing, which is surprising as I have other items that I've bought 5 years ago that look brand new.
Anyway, to those upset about the sizing, I wouldn't be -- the Lululemon of the past doesn't seem to be the Lululemon of the present. There is better quality stuff available at cheaper prices from other brands.0 -
I have quite a few pieces of Lulu. I mostly wear their skirts and tanks b/c I'm only 5ft so their pants are usually too big. I workout 6-7 days a week, so I need workout clothes that will hold up. Plus, since I am soooo lazy and a "poser" I wear workout clothes when I'm not actually working out. So, for me, I need the clothes to look cute and hold up well for working out. Sorry, they don't have them in larger sizes, but everything isn't for everybody. At my height and 108 pds. stores don't cater to me either. But guess what? I just go somewhere else.0
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my workout gear consists of:
Sweat pants
Old shirts
Free shirts (for participating in certain events, etc.)
because i think it's silly to pay extra for clothes that i'm going to sweat my *kitten* of in and only wear for an hour or two each day
Exactly- Ive been reading this tread trying to figure out why it even exists... its a sweaty work out not a fashion show. There are wick away the sweat clothes at wal mart and target- which are online- Never heard of this lemon store - but it sounds pointless. .a store just for work out clothes? dumb. Work out clothes are anything that breathes and is comfy- free is even better - pricey is stupid.
Walmart and Target clothes are trash as far as quality. Absolute garbage. Personally I like Old Navy's line of athletic wear.
funny because Ive never had quality anything from old navy- terrible business model as far as pricing and see thru paper thin clothes. T shirts - shorts- yoga pants- wic away material - easy to find in a lot of places, specialty shop not needed.0 -
IMO, Lulu Lemon sucks - their leader is a complete jerk. Did you know he named his company Lulu Lemon because he knew Asians would have a hard time pronouncing it, and would have to say "Ruru Remon", and that he enjoys making fun of Asians?
The guy is a word I am not allowed to type on this forum.
I don't care what size(s) his clothes go to, he is a jerk whom I will not be giving a single dollar of my business to:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stewart-j-lawrence/when-yogis-kill-the-grisl_b_1077457.html
See paragraph 5
So often anything trendy and cute when trendy and cute wasnt needed before they came along- has a sweat shop story or something similar behind it- Not surprised in the least.0 -
I have to laugh at the pro lululemon and the anti lululemon debate. People kill me. This may be a little off topic but it could eventually circle around.
They may have a killer wicking shirt, but so do the ATHLETIC brands that developed the system, at a much cheaper cost. People shop at that store to be hip and trendy. Plain and simple. The stereotypical lululemon shopper in my area are the soccer moms who want to look good when they go to the gym once a week and usually part of a family that lives beyond their means. These stores cater to these type of people for a reason. Folks will blow some dough in there, just to look good while sweating.
If you genuinely do have the money to shop there day in and day out, why not save your money for some real athletic clothing, time and activity tested by real athletes, that will serve the same purpose and be just as comfortable? THEN, you might be able to put that extra money into savings thus making the whole fitness thing an all around great idea.
PLUS, real athletic clothing comes in affordable plus sizes as well!
Voted - most sensible post in this whole thread!!!0 -
I am 6'1 and wear size 12 shoes, imagine the difficulty i face finding a wardrobe!!
Most place dont carry tall clothes in store and only go to 11's in shoes.
be thankful you can at least lose weight to fit into those clothes im stuck being an outcast :sad: :sad: :sad:
I'm a hair under 6 feet and wear a 13 shoe. Boy, I feel your pain!! Adidas just in the last few months started carrying their women's shoes online in 12's, and they run BIIIGGG! I'd never owned a pair of women's athletic shoes, I bought them and they FIT!
We just got a LuluLemon store here in the Mall of America. I don't know if my big (but now slightly less so) butt would fit into any of their pants, but at those prices, it wouldn't matter. I couldn't afford it anyway
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Huffington Post is not an unbiased paper..you really can't believe that stuff.0
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my workout gear consists of:
Sweat pants
Old shirts
Free shirts (for participating in certain events, etc.)
because i think it's silly to pay extra for clothes that i'm going to sweat my *kitten* of in and only wear for an hour or two each day
I salute you, sir. You are not a poseur or a 'him-bo.' You're there to get the job done and not look like an Abercrombie and Fitch ad.0 -
I didn't read all of the posts, just the OP and those on the first page.
What I say, is shop somewhere that DOES cater do plus size women. I can understand wanting wicking activewear, because I sweat.... a lot. I find Moving Comfort sports bras to be the best for my busty D chest, and Nike pants fit nicely on my size 20 *kitten*. Underarmour makes wonderful wicking shirts that fit my L top (also I wear their undies), and I don't have to pay a fortune for it all. D i c k 's Sporting Goods is where I recently purchased my workout clothes.
If you want to wear lululemon, just make that a goal. I think its good incentive to strive for. I, personally, am working toward being able to shop at Hollister or American Eagle with my skinny ***** sister (whom I love to pieces). I'm not going to petition them to carry size 20 pants... I am going to work to become a smaller size.
Being a fat person, and an ex-REALLY fat person I can completely empathize with the frustration of not being able to shop in "normal" clothing stores. It sucks. When I was a size 26 I essentially couldn't find anything that didn't have a hideous print or that I had to pay 70bucks a pop for at Lane Bryant. My solution? Lose weight. Make that luluemon yoga pant your reward when you can walk in to the gym and say "SUCK IT HATERS, I'M WEARING MOTHER****ING LULULEMON!" Trust me. You will feel amazing when you do.0 -
LuLu's size 12 is equal to a Women's Size 40 or an 18. That's by their measurements.
I can't buy ANY workout clothes without altering them. It's a real pain having to cut off over 4.5 inches on pants (ruins the lines on them too) but I do like yoga pants so I look for them wherever I can. And if I were to hit the gym, I'd do it in capris anyway and a sweatshirt. (I likely will be doing that in a few weeks because I am about to plateau again. I realise that I do need some weight training as well as aquafit and swimming laps.... and walking)0 -
I've never heard of Lulu Lemon.
My workout gear is an old t-shirt, shorts and sneakers0 -
Some people are acting as if it's a crime to want to look good and show off what you've worked so hard for (the "fashion show" comments, etc).
I don't have any Lulu stuff but I always wear something cute and flattering. I've worked hard for my body so why should I hide it? There's nothing wrong with wanting to look great while sweating
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Simple; Brands like this don't want their name stamped on a fat *kitten*, Its bad advertising.
Honestly (coming from a fashion background) the basic answer to your question is that fat people don't fit the brand profile they are trying to project, which is probably true of most high brand sports labels, and majority of high brand fashion labels. It is a big part of a brand to present and project a lifestyle, look at advertising, the concept of advertising a brand is to make you want the lifestyle associated with that brand, most fashion brands are associated with slim, sexy, successful, youthful and attractive, and basically if you are not fitting into that, the brand doesn't really want their name stamped on you...Sorry I know Its harsh, and majorly unfair, but that's brands, Another factor is also cost...it takes a lot more fabric to make bigger sizes, so the production costs between an XS and an XL would be different, now considering that brands cant sell and item for a higher price in the larger sizes with out seeming totally unfair, to keep a good profit margin, they simply don' make the larger sizes.
I agree with you and funny thing is... right now, I'm someone that they don't 'want' (objectively) wearing their clothes. I get so annoyed with the whiny fairness BS that runs rampant on these boards. You don't like something; change it. You don't want to be 'fat' anymore; don't. You want to wear the clothes; work to get into them. End of story.
I'm a 'fat' girl that loves fashion. I know where to shop to look good and where to shop for my body... but you bet your *kitten*, the world is mine when I 'fit' into the places I'd rather shop!0 -
my workout gear consists of:
Sweat pants
Old shirts
Free shirts (for participating in certain events, etc.)
because i think it's silly to pay extra for clothes that i'm going to sweat my *kitten* of in and only wear for an hour or two each day
I salute you, sir. You are not a poseur or a 'him-bo.' You're there to get the job done and not look like an Abercrombie and Fitch ad.
Actually some of us do get the job done but like to look GOOD at the same time. I don't think one has to be exclusive of the other.
I LIKE looking all sexified up in the gym. I like throwing up huge weights while looking like a good looking female.
I see enough women in baggy shorts, oversized tees WASTING time in the gym and lifting 5 lb dumbells.
Just because one looks good doesn't mean one isn't lifting bigger than the boys or bigger than the women in sweats.
Haters.
disclamier- I used to be an ARMY sgt...so after being in sexless fatigues all the darn time I actually like being uber feminine at the gym.
Granted I NEVER wear makeup or jewelry..that's even one of my own pet peeves but you better believe I'll wear cute gear at the gym...makes me motivated.
Today I wore this...
http://www.bluefishsport.com/activewear-basic-bra
.....with some cute pants.
While knocking out 8 deadhang pullups.(been my goal for the longest and today I reached it!)
Stop hating.0 -
I decided to start walking with the intent to run about two months ago and finally started seeing some weight loss as a result. To reward myself, I thought I'd splurge a little on a cute running skirt. They go up to a 10. I generally wear a 14. That's when I found out that Lululemon doesn't make clothes for us bigger folks.
That's fine though, I'm not even upset. Just...if you didn't want my money at size 14, you're definitely not getting it when I get to 10.
Nike still loves me. :P0 -
I'm grateful to this post because now I know where to go and get my new workout clothes! Not lulu lemon, I'm too big...but Old Navy! Whomever wrote about their having cute plus sized clothes was spot on. Yay!0
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I just find it ironic that Lululemon is a sought after, expensive name brand of clothing created for yoga, a practice in which one hopes to gain spiritual insight.0
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I am just playing devil's advocate here and pointing out the fact that Lululemon is a Canadian based company not an American one. Ideals on what is considered "plus" sized are just different in other countries where the obesity rate is a hell of a lot lower than fat ridden America. We are more accepting of bigger sizes because that is our norm, but elsewhere it is not. Size 12 may really be considered "plus" sized over there. Just for the record also...anyone who is buying this overpriced **** is not worried about fitness either...lol. Costs way too damn much to sweat in!0
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I am just playing devil's advocate here and pointing out the fact that Lululemon is a Canadian based company not an American one. Ideals on what is considered "plus" sized are just different in other countries where the obesity rate is a hell of a lot lower than fat ridden America. We are more accepting of bigger sizes because that is our norm, but elsewhere it is not. Size 12 may really be considered "plus" sized over there. Just for the record also...anyone who is buying this overpriced **** is not worried about fitness either...lol. Costs way too damn much to sweat in!
I do care about fitness and I buy all this overpriced...sh**T.
But yeah, my avatar and other pics clearly show what a fitness poseur I am.
http://youtu.be/z18kFLGZksY
http://youtu.be/i9DkicIdmJ0 (in a tiny skirt and hooker heels no less! This particular pullup video is old though. It's about 2 years ago, not proud of my skinny arms in this but I was strong nevertheless despite it, and my arms have improved since then because I have lifted HARD in my lululemons!)
Video is Evidence I am a fitness fake.
How about some of you haters stop overgeneralizing that people who wear uberexpensive clothes aren't into working out. Obviously if you see someone who CAN fit into lululemon...they probably ARE VERY into working out.
THe only think I am guilty of is being VAIN about what I wear to the gym.
But I won't stand by and have HATERs, yes, haters who say people who wear expensive gear don't like to sweat.
I love to sweat in my $97.00 gear.
It's actually motivating to wear something so fitted...and looks so good.
It makes you want to keep coming to the gym and keep eating right..becuase if you don't...those outfits are NOT forgiving.0 -
If youre not able to fit in any of the clothing sizes that Lululemon offers, it should come as a big wake up call, as opposed to anger or frustration with Lululemon.
Theyre a fitness store, so they market to people who are generally fit or interested in staying fit, as opposed to being obese or morbidly obese.
If you are not able to fit in their clothes, to be honest, new or expensive workout clothing should be low on your list. If youre truly committed to getting fit, you will outgrow them quickly anyway.
I highly recommend a focus on diet---the fact is, input is directly proportional to output. By that, I mean its a simple fact that you cant get fat by not eating. You get fact by not eating healthy foods, or by eating too much of any type of food, healthy or not. Yes, some people have hormonal or metabolic issues that make it more difficult for them to gain or lose weight, but for the most part, people use those as excuses.
You need to be honest with yourself and assess your diet first and foremost, and concentrate on exercise that makes you sweat (and not just walking). High tech or expensive workout clothing should be the last of your concerns, since if youre really serious, the clothes you buy now wont fit for long anyway. Go to Target and get some decent but relatively inexpensive workout clothing--- they actually have some good stuff for a fraction of the price.
Make Lululemon your reward for when you do get in shape and are merely in the habit of maintaining a healthy lifestyle.0 -
Hm....seems like lots of people are confused about the Lululemon size chart.....12 = XL. I was explained this the first time I ever set foot in their store and wanted to try on a pair of Wunder Unders (their standard leggings).
size
2/XXS
4/XS
6/S
8/M
10/L
12/XL0 -
I'm honestly unsure why this is a big deal. Major clothing lines have always had size cut offs, some higher than others. This isn't anything new.0
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I'm honestly unsure why this is a big deal. Major clothing lines have always had size cut offs, some higher than others. This isn't anything new.
This totally. Most brands end at 12-14.0
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