Chubby Trainers & Nutrionists
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When people meet me, they have no idea I'm a lawyer - I don't fit the mold...
LOL - and after this weekend, will continue not to tell them. A LOT of requests for free advice for some reason. None of them my practice area, of course... :grumble:
I get that, too. When someone tells me, I don't seem like a lawyer, I usually take that as a compliment.
You got it! But I think we're getting off topic... Let's try to reroute it - would you rather have a thin lawyer or a "chubby" lawyer - using Gorilla's term, not mine.0 -
The trainer I used to get a good kick start looks like a short version of Michael Clarke Duncan. Weight and strength trainer at a D1 NCAA school by day. By far the most fit trainer at my Y. Also a gentle giant.
I don't think any of the trainers are obese.
A few years ago I took a spinning class lead by a women who was a little thick in the middle. But she was in incredible shape. She drove rode the class hard.
There are many different natural body types. I have a nephew (wife's side) who naturally has way above average muscle mass. If he spent 30 minutes a day in the gym people would swear he is doing at least 3 hours and using steroids. His father has biceps almost as thick as my neck and I have to use a wrench to remove a nut that he tightens with his bare fingers.
But if I spent 3 hours a day in the gym I wouldn't come close to their muscle mass.
Sure, initial impressions are what they are.
As for obese healthcare workers? It seems like every day there is a news article about another hospital chain that is setting a maximum BMI for new hires and instituting mandatory fitness and nutrition counseling for current employees that are obese.
Japan already has to put up with this at every employer. Submit to waistline measurement every year. Fines for the company if too many employees measure over 85cm for men and 90 cm for women. My waist hasn't been 85cm since I was way under weight and puking 5 times a day.0 -
Yes. Personally it's disconcerting to see nutritionists who clearly either do not follow their own counsel or DO follow their own counsel and have crap results. Same with overweight diabetes counselors.
On the subject of nutritionists in general, there seem to be two main types. The first is the chubby nutrition counselor. The second is the dried up, pinched lips maiden aunt looking nutrition counselor. Neither one inspires confidence in me. I can look like crap on my own.0 -
Well I think I can top that one...how about seeing a "chubby" traininer and smoking outside the gym doors...yep! puffing away on a cancer stick..."do as I say not as I do" ??? Really!!! what kind of message is he sending to his clients...0
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I'm personally more apt to listen to a chubby trainer or RD than an "under-chubby" one, in other words...too thin. I want someone who has an idea what it's like to be on the heavier side when dealing with me, not someone who is either too thin (IMO of course), or someone who has never had to deal with extra weight like I am dealing with.0
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When people meet me, they have no idea I'm a lawyer - I don't fit the mold...
LOL - and after this weekend, will continue not to tell them. A LOT of requests for free advice for some reason. None of them my practice area, of course... :grumble:
I get that, too. When someone tells me, I don't seem like a lawyer, I usually take that as a compliment.
You got it! But I think we're getting off topic... Let's try to reroute it - would you rather have a thin lawyer or a "chubby" lawyer - using Gorilla's term, not mine.
Actually, I have thought about that. Besides longevity and health, I suspect that my expanding waistline was starting to hurt my business. It isn't that being a little pudgy is disqualifying for a lawyer. If it were, 90% of lawyers would be out of business. But I did notice that I was starting to become one of "those" guys. Fat, disheveled. Shirt tail coming out of my pants. And buttons popping in the front. Mismatched pants and jacket because the pants that came with the suit no longer fit. And, unable to button the suit coat. (but nonetheless, stubbornly refusing to buy new fat suits at a big and tall shop because I didn't want to be the shortest guy at the big and tall shop) Fortunately, I have come back from that bad place and my big suits are starting to fit. Now I need to get down to where my smaller suits will fit again.0 -
I get that, too. When someone tells me, I don't seem like a lawyer, I usually take that as a compliment.
I quietly say to myself, "Yeah. Then that happened..."0 -
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Actually, I have thought about that. Besides longevity and health, I suspect that my expanding waistline was starting to hurt my business. It isn't that being a little pudgy is disqualifying for a lawyer. If it were, 90% of lawyers would be out of business. But I did notice that I was starting to become one of "those" guys. Fat, disheveled. Shirt tail coming out of my pants. And buttons popping in the front. Mismatched pants and jacket because the pants that came with the suit no longer fit. And, unable to button the suit coat. (but nonetheless, stubbornly refusing to buy new fat suits at a big and tall shop because I didn't want to be the shortest guy at the big and tall shop) Fortunately, I have come back from that bad place and my big suits are starting to fit. Now I need to get down to where my smaller suits will fit again.
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I would agree that disheveled doesn't help a practice. There are a couple of disheveled folk I run into on a regular basis - different shapes and sizes, and I wonder what their clients think. (Makes me remember to comb my hair...) Sounds like you are making great progress!!0 -
I get that, too. When someone tells me, I don't seem like a lawyer, I usually take that as a compliment.
I quietly say to myself, "Yeah. Then that happened..."
LOL! I would like to see someone watch you walk into the room!!0 -
I agree completely... Its like going to a dentist who has nasty teeth.0
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Besides longevity and health, I suspect that my expanding waistline was starting to hurt my business. It isn't that being a little pudgy is disqualifying for a lawyer. If it were, 90% of lawyers would be out of business.
And you know better than anyone... when you weigh the potential credibility and "likeability" of a witness on the stand, how they "look" is a HUGE factor in your decision... and the prosecution's decision as well.0 -
Admittedly, looks would matter to me if I was selecting a trainer on sight. And for me that applies multiple ways. I wouldn't want a bodybuilder / "get big" kind of trainer, either. I already have trouble fitting into the Humvees the goverment makes me cram myself into along with body armor, weapons, and equipment. Therefore, a trainer who is good for people looking to "get big" isn't useful for me.
As others have said, I would want to know their story. Maybe they have a medical issue. Maybe they are in progress of losing weight. Maybe they're brilliant and suck at time management so they can't apply their knowledge to their own lives.
But here's another thing I'd want to see: Their OTHER customers. No matter how good a trainer looks, if their customers consistenly aren't showing progress, then why would I expect them to make progress with me? There's a lot to be said for a teacher (of any sort) who is able or unable to reach their student where their student is and work with that person. So even if they look great and are brilliant, if they can't teach or guide their student, they're not worth your money.0 -
I took voice lessons once and the person i ended up with had a really grating voice. I didn't do what she told me because I didn't want to sound like her. That said, I'd feel more comfortable going to someone who knows what it's like to lose as much as I have to go, which is roughly 60 lbs.0
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I would be skeptical at first too, but then I agree that I don't know their back story. Perhaps she just got done being pregnant with Triplets. Maybe she is on the downward slope of losing hundreds of pounds. I am always one to give someone the benefit of the doubt before jumping to conclusions though.0
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So I see so many people here judging a person based on their appearance if they are capable of doing their job? Isn't that why most of us are here? Were we not tired of being judged based on our appearance at some point? Yes, when we are talking about trainers and nutrionist we have an idea in mind of what we feel they should look like, but if they are teaching you the things YOU need to know does it really matter? I would much rather take the advice of a "not so in shape" person who has put the time and effort into an education and earned a degree in there field over one of those "certified" trainers or workers at you local supplement stores who more than likely spent a couple weekends being taught by the out of shape people to get there "certification".0
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Great response Sarah!0
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I am a fitness instructor. When I got licensed I was a bit heavier than I am now, but I dropped 20 pounds BEFORE I started teaching - for just this reason. I see "chubby" instructors at my gym all the time, and in the past when I've seen someone instructing a class that was overweight, it turned me off of that class (even though I still took some of them and really got a great workout). For me it seems to be a "Practice what you preach" type thing.
The way I see it is this: What you're telling me to do clearly you're not following. Why? Do you not believe in it? Does it not work?
That having been said, I just LOVE seeing heavy people at the gym. I don my pom-poms and pleated skirt and give them tons of encouragement! It's awesome!0 -
Not gonna lie, i didn't read all the posts so sorry if this has been covered.
I personally am more inspired by the people at the gym teaching classes that look more fit. BUT, I did have a teacher for kickboxing once that was on the obese side. But after hearing her story of recently dropping 70+ lbs, I decided that I liked taking a class from someone who had been through the struggles I was currently going through.
So I suppose the lesson here is, you can't always judge a book by it's cover <insert grown for obvious cliche>0 -
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I don't know their journey.
I don't know if they have lost 100lbs to this point.
No, it doesn't bother me.
This^^^ No one knows you're story. Doctors, nurses, nutritionists & trainers are all humans first, therefore, prone to making bad decisions and have life affect them the same way it does people that are not in those fields.0 -
I think it depends on the trainer/nutrionist. I would work with a chubby trainer/nutrionist if I saw them eating the food they're telling me to eat and working out as hard as I'm supposed to workout. If I never see them in there, then no I wouldn't work with them. This one gym I went to, the manager was talking about a healthy lifestyle and eating right, but before his speech (the one where he was trying to get me to sign up there with a trainer) I saw him put away two big macs. That manager was about 300 pounds. The trainer was the complete opposite. He was able to talk me into joining and everything. But he was chubby. Just a little though. Every time I went in to workout he was there working out, he would always eat healthy too.0
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Their bodies are their business....they are poor advertising for themselves. They lose credibility with me.0
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This^^^ No one knows you're story. Doctors, nurses, nutritionists & trainers are all humans first, therefore, prone to making bad decisions and have life affect them the same way it does people that are not in those fields.0
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I lol'd - very rare for me. Thanx. You are a very funny guy.
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Chubbiness doesn't mean unhealthiness. Many nutritionists battle the bulge too, and that's exactly the reason they entered the field.0
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Yes. Same as a financial planner whose finances are a train wreck or a dog trainer whose dog behaves like a beast instead of a well trained dog. Portray in your life what you are trying to be an expert at. IMHO anyway0
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I completely agree with the OP. I couldn't take seriously a trainer who looks like he just downed an entire bad of Doritos. Or a nutritionist who looks like they haven't eaten a banana this millennia.
Personal trainers especially, should look the part. I could give a pass to the nutritionalist, since most of that is just plain knowledge. But a trainer? No effin way.0 -
Chubbiness doesn't mean unhealthiness.0
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It may not be fair, but appearance does count. I signed up for a belly dance class years ago as part of my fitness plan, and the instructor was soooooooooooooo out of shape. I had the instant mental image that if I took her class I'd look like her, so I didn't go back for a second class.0
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I think everyone can agree that a fit image goes a long way when "marketing" your services as a trainer, nutritionist, et al. And that's not to say that you don't "know your stuff" because you're unfit, but many people may never give you the opportunity to "shine," because of the package.0
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