Dr. told me to drop down to 750 calories

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  • kaneaap
    kaneaap Posts: 13 Member
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    My advice is to find a new doctor. Period. At 750 calories, your body won't be getting enough nutrition to be healthy. You have been losing weight restricting your calories to 1200 & exercising so you are obviously doing something right! You're in the normal range for blood sugar, so I would not worry. If you're concerned about your diet, consult a reputable dietitian. But drop that doctor, I'm not sure he/she had your health in mind.
  • kittyr77
    kittyr77 Posts: 419 Member
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    Medical doctors do not necessarily know anything about nutrition. I have several doctor friends who are excellent at their field but seriously do not have a clue how many calories are needed for maintenance or healthy weight loss. They also do not know how many calories per gram of fat, protein and carbs. They can treat heart attacks and pneumonia no problem but they can't give you nutritional advice. Medical finals did not have one single question on nutrition. This is a very reputable UK med school. Some doctors will take an interest but do not assume every doctor knows about this.
  • PayneAS
    PayneAS Posts: 669 Member
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    I did not ask for weightloss advice from the doctor. I went in because my morning blood sugars were trending 98-105 which is quite over where I normally have them. I have the glucose meter because I've had gestational diabetes with my pregnancies and am at a higher risk for Type2. I also have many symptoms of PCOS and wanted to see if she could run some bloodwork. One, among my many symptoms is difficulty losing weight. She latched on to that and wouldn't let go.

    I got told -
    > Exercise does nothing. None of her patients have ever had success losing weight by exercising. It's all about FOOD.
    > Ok, I tell her about tracking on MFP. She tells me I'm eating too much if I'm trying to stick to 1200 cals. For a little 5' tall person like me, that is double of what I should be eating. Drop down to 750 cals.
    > I bring up the BMR and how it is not advisable to go under 1200 on a regular basis. She says that's a bunch of lies. People who have gastric bypass eat 700 cals and do fabulously.
    > Says the exercise I have been doing is maybe burning a 100 calories. I have a HRM and use it to figure my calorie burn - which is about 450-550 for 60-70 min of cardio...she says the HRM is wrong. I'm burning a 100 calories during the 60 min zumba/running/elliptical whatever.

    You need a new doctor.
  • cchhome
    cchhome Posts: 45 Member
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    Well, there seems to be a few different points of view here.....I think we should all be aiming at being respectful to each other while making our comments, (I'm sure you all have the best intentions here).

    And to add my piece..if you are feeling uneasy with any info given by your doctor, I agree with those that say you should feel free to seek a second opinion, going into the appointment with an open mind, and after the second opinion is given, you could offer up the previouse info for discussion...maybe the comparison of the two will help you out.

    For those of you who are suggesting that discussing a problem here is inappropriate, haven't you ever just needed to discuss something with anyone else before making a major decision, not that the answer is what you are looking for, but for you to be able to step back and see what ideas are out there to use as a stepping stone in the direction that is right for you? Some of us may not be fortunate enough to have close family and friends that are supportive, so not being supportive here probably is not the most helpful thing. I'm sure, seeing that we are all able to think for ourselves and know what sounds like common sense to us, we are capable of finding the right path.

    Best of luck to you, hope that you do find the direction that you need.
  • slkehl
    slkehl Posts: 3,801 Member
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    Wow. It's been a while since your doc brushed up on nutrition!
  • Bookers23
    Bookers23 Posts: 187 Member
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    Those fasting glucose numbers are high, not normal. If they were to be post prandial numbers then they are normal range.
  • baptiste565
    baptiste565 Posts: 590 Member
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    why would you listen to dr who has 4 years med sch, residency, and yrs of practice. i would rather go on the internet, go on a site with people with weight issues and listen to the them. just my opinion.


    Because common sense would dictate that there are much better options that should be explored before resulting to such drastic measures. And that one doctor's opinion may not be the be-all, end-all authority on the matter. Getting a 2nd opinion is never a bad thing.
    nothing wrong with getting a second opinion. there r many ways to lose weight. it seems that she has been on mfp for a while and it has not helped. eating 750 for a while and using your fat stores for energy will work and work fast. its not an effective long term solution but for 30 days it may do the trick.
  • CINDYRN33
    CINDYRN33 Posts: 148 Member
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    Very disturbing, I hope your getting a new doc.
  • pinkraynedropjacki
    pinkraynedropjacki Posts: 3,027 Member
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    Your Dr is an idiot & time to get a new one. I'm not kidding.
  • texasokie
    texasokie Posts: 65 Member
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    Wow, I can't believe your doctor told you that. I agree with everyone else...get a new Dr. I also know you burn a lot more than 100 cal doing zumba. I used to zumba and did research on the cal burned. If you do 1 hour zumba at fast pace you can burn up to 1000 cal in that hour. Good luck with your journey.
  • baptiste565
    baptiste565 Posts: 590 Member
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    I would definitely advise listening to random people on the internet over a medical professional. Everyone on the internet knows that if you eat BMR you will instantly enter starvation mode and start gaining weight.

    BRAVO. I said something very similar to this, yet the quacks still come.

    I'll repeat, how many of you have done scientific research on the subject? Or are you all just quoting something you heard from the internet?

    The majority are saying: SEE ANOTHER DOCTOR.

    Not: I'm a doctor so listen to my advice over your doctor.

    Please to be reading what people are saying before forming silly attacks on something that people aren't actually saying.

    No, most are saying "the doctor is wrong" making the doctor sound like a nut bag. I know for a fact "don't eat below your BMR, because it's it's wrong". Is a joke.

    Exercise does do nothing for weight loss. In a few studies people would exercise and ate what they wanted, you know what happened? They ate more food. The more you move around the bigger your appetite gets. Yes, during the exercise time it does blunt hunger, but afterwards it will increase, it might be right after your workout, or the next day, never the less it will increase.

    The 750 calorie thing is true too, people who do get weight loss surgery eat around 500-1000 calories a day. I would never recommend a number that low. It's extreme and hard to maintain, but that doesn't mean you won't lose weight doing it.

    The HRM comment, she might be right, who knows, we don't know the tpye of HRM the OP has, and the accuracy of it either.

    So someone please tell me where the doctor is wrong, don't worry I'll wait...

    P.S. Funny how everyone is recommending a nutritionist. Funny thing is, they're the biggest joke in this field, after a personal trainer. If you want dietary advice go to a dietician. (another sign 95% of the people who posted on this topic don't have a clue what they're talking about)
    people he is right. im not sayin eating so few cal is best for muscle retention. im not sayin eating so few cal will allow u to perform strenuous task at peak efficiency. im not sayin its an effective long term plan. but u will lose weight fast.
  • 3bambi3
    3bambi3 Posts: 1,650 Member
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    I would definitely advise listening to random people on the internet over a medical professional. Everyone on the internet knows that if you eat BMR you will instantly enter starvation mode and start gaining weight.

    BRAVO. I said something very similar to this, yet the quacks still come.

    I'll repeat, how many of you have done scientific research on the subject? Or are you all just quoting something you heard from the internet?

    The majority are saying: SEE ANOTHER DOCTOR.

    Not: I'm a doctor so listen to my advice over your doctor.

    Please to be reading what people are saying before forming silly attacks on something that people aren't actually saying.

    No, most are saying "the doctor is wrong" making the doctor sound like a nut bag. I know for a fact "don't eat below your BMR, because it's it's wrong". Is a joke.

    Exercise does do nothing for weight loss. In a few studies people would exercise and ate what they wanted, you know what happened? They ate more food. The more you move around the bigger your appetite gets. Yes, during the exercise time it does blunt hunger, but afterwards it will increase, it might be right after your workout, or the next day, never the less it will increase.

    The 750 calorie thing is true too, people who do get weight loss surgery eat around 500-1000 calories a day. I would never recommend a number that low. It's extreme and hard to maintain, but that doesn't mean you won't lose weight doing it.

    The HRM comment, she might be right, who knows, we don't know the tpye of HRM the OP has, and the accuracy of it either.

    So someone please tell me where the doctor is wrong, don't worry I'll wait...

    P.S. Funny how everyone is recommending a nutritionist. Funny thing is, they're the biggest joke in this field, after a personal trainer. If you want dietary advice go to a dietician. (another sign 95% of the people who posted on this topic don't have a clue what they're talking about)
    people he is right. im not sayin eating so few cal is best for muscle retention. im not sayin eating so few cal will allow u to perform strenuous task at peak efficiency. im not sayin its an effective long term plan. but u will lose weight fast.

    She's not morbidly obese. She doesn't need to "lose weight fast."

    Also, the one thing I find practically impossible to believe is that the OP only burned 100 calories doing an hour of cardio exercise. That alone leads me to question anything else the doctor says.
  • brownshuga30
    brownshuga30 Posts: 106 Member
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    I totally agree!!!!


    I'd say it's time to drop the doctor! Get a new one!
  • Chrissie_R
    Chrissie_R Posts: 224 Member
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    erm i'd get a second opinion!!
  • Rawr1978
    Rawr1978 Posts: 245 Member
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    A doctor told me to take extra strength ibuprophen when i was 32 weeks pregnant. Some doctors dont have a clue about certain things.
  • jpe71
    jpe71 Posts: 50 Member
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    why would you listen to dr who has 4 years med sch, residency, and yrs of practice. i would rather go on the internet, go on a site with people with weight issues and listen to the them. just my opinion.

    Because possibly people who live with a condition she has (or might have) could give her the benefit of experience? A medical license is FAR from being a guarantee that the possessor thereof knows everything about proper care and feeding of humans. I've got a couple of conditions for which I've had to seek out experts in my diagnosis (not just a garden variety specialist) because the average doctor hasn't studied them. It's simply very hard to know things you've never learned. I have a doctor friend who recently consulted a hairdresser regarding dandruff. Surely, you'd think that was covered in school, yet the hairdresser knew more about it.

    I have worked in medical fields for almost 20 years. I have a few conditions I'm expert in, either from having them, or from working in research related to it. I don't confuse my experience with a medical education, but it does give me enough knowledge to know when the doctor made a mistake. Because they do make mistakes - just like people.

    However, I also wanted to comment that it sounds like your doctor has latched onto a diagnosis, perhaps without enough testing to prove the hypothesis. There's the old saying that when you've got a hammer, everything looks like a nail. I think she's picked her hammer, and it may be a socket wrench is needed. Find somebody else, who is willing to look at the whole picture. Find someone who can hear disagreement, and with whom you have great rapport. Then get on their waiting list; they're probably not taking new patients just now. Finding a good doctor who listens and thinks about what you say is vital to improving your health.
  • x_JT_x
    x_JT_x Posts: 364
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    I would definitely advise listening to random people on the internet over a medical professional. Everyone on the internet knows that if you eat BMR you will instantly enter starvation mode and start gaining weight.

    BRAVO. I said something very similar to this, yet the quacks still come.

    I'll repeat, how many of you have done scientific research on the subject? Or are you all just quoting something you heard from the internet?

    The majority are saying: SEE ANOTHER DOCTOR.

    Not: I'm a doctor so listen to my advice over your doctor.

    Please to be reading what people are saying before forming silly attacks on something that people aren't actually saying.

    No, most are saying "the doctor is wrong" making the doctor sound like a nut bag. I know for a fact "don't eat below your BMR, because it's it's wrong". Is a joke.

    Exercise does do nothing for weight loss. In a few studies people would exercise and ate what they wanted, you know what happened? They ate more food. The more you move around the bigger your appetite gets. Yes, during the exercise time it does blunt hunger, but afterwards it will increase, it might be right after your workout, or the next day, never the less it will increase.

    The 750 calorie thing is true too, people who do get weight loss surgery eat around 500-1000 calories a day. I would never recommend a number that low. It's extreme and hard to maintain, but that doesn't mean you won't lose weight doing it.

    The HRM comment, she might be right, who knows, we don't know the tpye of HRM the OP has, and the accuracy of it either.

    So someone please tell me where the doctor is wrong, don't worry I'll wait...

    P.S. Funny how everyone is recommending a nutritionist. Funny thing is, they're the biggest joke in this field, after a personal trainer. If you want dietary advice go to a dietician. (another sign 95% of the people who posted on this topic don't have a clue what they're talking about)
    people he is right. im not sayin eating so few cal is best for muscle retention. im not sayin eating so few cal will allow u to perform strenuous task at peak efficiency. im not sayin its an effective long term plan. but u will lose weight fast.


    I don't think folks are questioning whether or not the method will work. I think they're questioning the wisdom of it. The doc made no mention (unless the OP failed to relay that in her post) of any type of monitoring/follow-up care/guidance other than to drop down to 750 cals. The OP also brought up valid concerns, which the doc seemed to ignore or brush off. Those things combined would have me questioning the docs advice as well.
  • baptiste565
    baptiste565 Posts: 590 Member
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    Because possibly people who live with a condition she has (or might have) could give her the benefit of experience?
    hey, i respect ur opinion but i would rather listen doctors then to patients.
    i just get very frustrated when people take this 1200kcal theory as the holy grail of weight loss. its just a number that businessman of a calorie tracking site came up with.
  • AbsoluteNG
    AbsoluteNG Posts: 1,079 Member
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    LOL @ all the people who says the doctor is wrong. Myfitnesspal was created by a computer programmer. There is no one on MyFitnessPal staff that has a Medical Degree and there are no Registered Dietitians on staff. If i am wrong, please show me a link. Listen to your doctor and not what random people say on the internet.
  • tidetevo
    tidetevo Posts: 45 Member
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    Doctor stupid