Does it bother you...

Well I just ate a 300 calorie meal and I'm full. 1/2 cup of brown rice, 4 oz of chicken and 1 1/2 cup of veggies. And this took me an hour. Not sure i could have done it all in one sitting.


It's all about choices. I agree with those who say worry about you. Eat what is right for you. But it is possible to be satisfactorily fed on 1200 calories a day.

I hate veggies btw. Today was my first time putting them into my meal time. So yeah... choices...

...when people who eat 1200 calories or less brag about how they are "stuffed" eating that amount and "couldn't possibly eat anymore"? Depending on the situation and who you're talking to, the implication is generally that people who eat above 1200 are lazier and have less willpower. I understand wanting to be able to choose your own path to weight loss without being jumped on, but dissing people who are trying to help you isn't the way to do it.

Why do you assume that they are bragging and implying that you have less willpower? It sounds like you are defensive about this. Maybe they're just trying to have an honest open discussion about diet and how it makes them feel.

What I don't get is the ones who claim they cant possibly eat 1200 calories a day...its just too much food. How the heck did they get overweight then!? They must have been eating SOMEthing...I just don't get that one at all.

when i am eating healthy 'clean' foods (protiens and lots of veggies) its easy to fill up on low cals.
but when i eat crap. you are gonna get about 2 the cals or more for the same amount of food.

That only goes but so far, though. I'm eating at a deficit, and my stomach does gradually adjust to that over time so that I'm not hungry all day. But if you're eating 800 calories a day for example, you can't possibly be getting full off that amount of food. I honestly don't understand how anyone can say that with a straight face.

In answer to your original question, no...what diets people are on, what deficits they use, how many calories they are consuming...nothing to do with me...I will however speak up if I recognise eating disordered thinking...I have been there and done that and this is where my second answer comes in (the quote above)...I would feel full on way less than 800 calories, I would feel full just drinking water at one point (this was the stage I could not keep water down without purging)...so yes some people will feel full on way less calories than the average person thinks possible. Same in reverse, how can people not feel full after a huge binge of several thousand calories? Some don't, but again this is eating disorder territory and these are the factors that would cause concern to me...

People lie to themselves and then repeat that lie out loud to validate their smokescreen. So anyone stating 1200 is ez is creating their own reality ... Or can't count or honestly recall. I love to exaggerate my portions... ( as in 1 four ounce serving), and its really 2.

Now THIS is offensive.

agreed. when i say that yes i can be stuffed on 1200 cals or less depending on what i ate that day, i am only saying what is affecting me.
to call people you do not know, are not inside of , liars because they are diffrent then you is just plain *kitten* rude.

If you are eating a lot of vegys and lean protein 1200 is a lot of food. It is easy to get stuffed on that volume.

There is very little that bothers me these days :-) Yes, I do have some pet peeves, but these are just silly little things and I am quite able to laugh at my own silliness :-)

I think if something other people say genuinely bothers me (and it doesn't only apply to food and fitness related issues), I tend to reflect on WHY I have this strong reaction. In my own experience, if something someone says gets under my skin, it tends to be worth thinking about and often times I get something valuable out of it e.g. some weaknesses in my character that could do with some work, some suppressed fear or other things worth dealing with.

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when your stomach starts to shrink,you really do not want any more food,,,, once you are a big eater, and start to slow down,it gradually is telling you this,,,,,,,,

Yes this. When I watch my calories I can definitely eat at or just above 1200 no problem. I'm not saying it is a ton of food and I'm not saying I don't ever go over, but I can do it without feeling like I am starving. With that said (mostly at the prompting of these types of threads) I have upped my calories a bit to a little over 1300. That also might not seem like a lot to some, but sometimes it is not really about amount of food it is about the kind of foods one eats. For instance, I can eat a whole bunch of baked eggplant with vegan cheese and red sauce as a meal and it is so low calorie I end up having to eat peanut butter at the end of the day to reach my caloric goals. Some of us have never been in the habit of eating a whole lot either so our stomachs have always been relatively small (that is not a judgement to anyone else that is just a fact). I am one of these people; I have never been pregnant and/or I have never been overweight (by my standards I have been overweight, but by BMI standards I haven't). I have pointed this out before (and I'm starting to feel like I am an official advocate for the small here) but MFP is diverse. Some of us only have a few pounds to lose and we are looking to fine tune our bodies more than shave off lots of pounds so 100 calories and macros can be very important us. I want to encourage everyone not berate the small/those closest to their goal. This place should supportive to everyone.

I also want to add that I have seen this a lot here on the forums. Why is it that people assume when others post about their own bodies and experiences that they are directing these posts towards others/judging others? I never assume someone is talking about me when they post their comments about their own experiences/bodies. This thread is a good example of this, the OP said that when 1200 calorie people talk about it being a lot of food the implication from the person who posts something like that is that if you go above that you are "lazier and have less willpower". I find that odd. Everyone is on their own journey and everyone is different. With regard to this topic when you are smaller and you eat less your stomach shrinks and it may indeed seem like a lot of food--I usually take people at their word. I honestly think people are just genuinely sharing their own experiences without bias and without judgement towards others.

What bothers me are the people who eat pork chops for breakfast and think that they are on a diet because they count the calories!

Huh?

Is there some law about breakfast food I don't know of?

I get the point of the statement. Even if you count calories, you won't lose if you ate...say a giant slice of chocolate cake and soda for every meal.

Well to an extent I suppose. If it was only one slice and that was all you ate maybe you'de lose still. but you'de be unhappy and unhealthy.

as for pork, I personally don't really touch it. But I have no issue with meat for breakfast.

Sure you'll lose if you're eating at a deficit. But pork chops is not a can of soda and a piece of cake.

I don't eat any meat at all, but there's no reason it's unhealthy to eat pork chops for breakfast.

Finally got around to rereading this thread and seeing the responses. I find it interesting that many of you assume that I'm getting defensive or that this is a manifestation of a personal issue for me...it's not. There are SOME people on here who eat 1200 or less who are rude and condescending about it. There is an implied moral superiority because they're able to eat far less than everyone else and be "stuffed." I'm not saying EVERY person who eats that amount acts that way, but you can't say you haven't run into people on this board that do.

Actually, yes, I can say that I haven't. I haven't.

Finally got around to rereading this thread and seeing the responses. I find it interesting that many of you assume that I'm getting defensive or that this is a manifestation of a personal issue for me...it's not. There are SOME people on here who eat 1200 or less who are rude and condescending about it. There is an implied moral superiority because they're able to eat far less than everyone else and be "stuffed." I'm not saying EVERY person who eats that amount acts that way, but you can't say you haven't run into people on this board that do.

Actually, yes, I can say that I haven't. I haven't.

Well lucky you. I've seen people on the "eat more" side of the fence get attacked because they don't want to eat 1200.

but so what.. it's just the internet. these "attacks" arent real. people dont have to agree with what other people are doing .

i dont understand why people take things so personally. if someone were to tell me that they think i'm eating too much (which they have) then whether or not i take that as a personal attack is my choice. i figure so what THEY think i'm eating too much. im an adult so why would i care what someone else thinks about what i do or don't eat, that's obviously their issue if they have nothing better to worry about than what i'm eating :laugh: it's not like people are swooping in like ninjas into my apartment and smacking food out of my hands. THAT'S an attack. an opinion is just an opinion especially when it's coming as a general sweeping statement made by strangers.
and so what if they think they are morally superior? you seem to think you're superior to them for eating more than 1200 calories

but really if something someone says or does pushes your button, the thing to remember is that it's YOUR button. the best way to avoid being bothered is to get rid of the button, not expect others to tiptoe around it

Nope, why would it bother me when someone is eating 1200 and losing weight while I eat 1500-1600 and do the same.

Either way, I mostly just mind my own business and expect other to do same if advise is not asked.

I'm gonna have to agree with gauchogirl on this one. Unless they directly insulted you, then no it wouldn't bother me. I can understand how it would be annoying, for sure. I know when I was heavier and I would see skinny chicks eat a wafer and some lettuce and say they're full, I would think "there's no fu**ing way they are anywhere near satiated" but now that I am living a healthier lifestyle and making better choices when it comes to food and fitness, and can see how 1200 calories would be enough. Granted there are those days where I want to eat my bodyweight in fudge brownie ben and jerry's but those days are few and far between.
When you start to get used to eating less and less and working out more your stomach shrinks. When you lose weight you no longer need as much food to support yourself because there is not longer as much "you to support".

Basically, if someone is "stuffed" from their salad and your stomach is still gurgling, just eat more and remember that their bodies have different caloric needs and they have different appetites. As you continue with your fitness and whatnot you'll notice your eating patterns will change too and you will no longer crave as much or need to eat as much to feel satiated.

Oh and btw, I'm on the 1200 calorie plan. But there are plenty of days I got over a bit. But it's all balanced out by my workouts. You need to remember that the calorie goals are net calories. So you could eat 2000 calories, as long as you burn off at least 800.

Finally got around to rereading this thread and seeing the responses. I find it interesting that many of you assume that I'm getting defensive or that this is a manifestation of a personal issue for me...it's not. There are SOME people on here who eat 1200 or less who are rude and condescending about it. There is an implied moral superiority because they're able to eat far less than everyone else and be "stuffed." I'm not saying EVERY person who eats that amount acts that way, but you can't say you haven't run into people on this board that do.

Actually, yes, I can say that I haven't. I haven't.

Well lucky you. I've seen people on the "eat more" side of the fence get attacked because they don't want to eat 1200.

Actually, what I've seen is people ask how to be satisified on 1,200 calories a day and then a bunch of people come in and tell that person how "stupid" it is to only eat 1,200 calories and day and be kind of nasty about it and insist that because eating 1,800-3,000 calories a day works for them (usually people who are taller and lift weights every day), then everyone should be doing THAT and the people who are successful on 1,200 a day feel insulted and defensive and it turns into a pissing match.

I have never seen anyone start out insulting people eating more just because they eat more.

Finally got around to rereading this thread and seeing the responses. I find it interesting that many of you assume that I'm getting defensive or that this is a manifestation of a personal issue for me...it's not. There are SOME people on here who eat 1200 or less who are rude and condescending about it. There is an implied moral superiority because they're able to eat far less than everyone else and be "stuffed." I'm not saying EVERY person who eats that amount acts that way, but you can't say you haven't run into people on this board that do.

I'm not sure where the idea that there is implied moral superiority is coming from. If you were talking to them personally I could see that coming across in maybe their tone of voice or their mannerisms, but on a chat forum? If all they are saying is that they get full eating 1200, why is there implied superiority?

you know what? i think this is a hard, long journey for everyone, and we are all at different places in it. being satisfied with where one is in their journey in no way suggests that people at another point in the journey are failures.