Does it bother you...
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No it doesn't bother me. Everyone has different needs as far as calories go. If it works for them, then thats cool.0
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...when people who eat 1200 calories or less brag about how they are "stuffed" eating that amount and "couldn't possibly eat anymore"? Depending on the situation and who you're talking to, the implication is generally that people who eat above 1200 are lazier and have less willpower. I understand wanting to be able to choose your own path to weight loss without being jumped on, but dissing people who are trying to help you isn't the way to do it.
It makes me a little jealous and sometimes a little dubious. I'm fine on 1200 calories a day, not starving or weak, and on days I am hungry, I just eat more. But other than days that I'm sick or something, I can't say it's ever a struggle to reach that number either. :laugh:
But I don't see how there is any implication about anyone else when people say they get full easily.0 -
I know some people are rude in the way they try to convince people on here to eat more, but I feel like you're exaggerating a little. Many of us aren't telling them to eat 1800-3000 a day -- I cannot eat that much and lose. But 1400-1700 is realistic, and that has been politely suggested by others, including me. And it's not just tall people who advocate this, I'm short (5'3) and I lose eating more than 1200 calories. I hope I've never come off as rude, and I'm sorry if you've had bad experiences with people who have.
But the rudeness goes BOTH ways, because I have seen people who eat at 1200, and sometimes lower, acting like they're better than everyone else because they have the discipline to eat less. There was a thread where someone did this just a few weeks ago and a lot of people were offended. Acting like your side is the ONLY side that has issues on this site is unfair.
I didn't see the thread in question, and if someone thought she was better than someone else because she can eat less, shame on her. But there is an awful lot of judgment about 1200 calorie eaters: on the first page of this thread, there was some comment about how they are screwing up or something. Your statement about 1400 calories being realistic is realistic *for you*. That's why 1200 eaters get frustrated and annoyed. 1200 calories for me has a projected weight loss of .4 or .2 lbs a week, can't remember which. You may be short, but if you are heavier or are more active, you can eat more than a short person who is very light or isn't as active.0 -
Yes! It bugs the crap out of me. I've decided they're all lying.0
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Actually I was going to post something about this, but then felt like people would think I'm weird or lying. I've been tracking my food on here for the last 5 weeks and it was going good. MFP gave me a 1200 cal/day limit and I was living with that. I learned to save a couple of hundred calories for after dinner because I usually get hungry then. But for the last week, I found that I wasn't getting hungry, but I was making myself eat to get close to the 1200 cals. I think this is because I've screwed up my eating... like missing breakfast. I'm trying to get back on track. But still the last few days, and tonight I'm not hungry.
Anyway, this morning I weighed myself and was UP 1.5 lbs. I'm trying to figure out why because it's not too many calories.
So, we are all individuals, but if we 're on here to lose weight, we're all just trying to come up with the best way that will work for us. I'm fat, no questions about that, but no because I'm a foodie... more because I'm not that interested in food and eat whatever is available out of boredom mostly. That's not everyone's issue, but it's mine.0 -
Finally got around to rereading this thread and seeing the responses. I find it interesting that many of you assume that I'm getting defensive or that this is a manifestation of a personal issue for me...it's not. There are SOME people on here who eat 1200 or less who are rude and condescending about it. There is an implied moral superiority because they're able to eat far less than everyone else and be "stuffed." I'm not saying EVERY person who eats that amount acts that way, but you can't say you haven't run into people on this board that do.
I have never encountered anyone acting superior because they eat at 1200 per day. It is way more common to see people who eat 1400 freak out when someone says they eat at 1200 and say that they are ruining their bodies and no one can survive on 1200 a day. Really? 200 calories a day is the difference between life and death? I can understand if someone is eating 500 calories of celery a day, but come on, 200 calories is one donut.
Life is too short to be bothered by such trivial things. Find something worse to be bothered by. Or look inside yourself to see WHY this bothers you so much. Are you happy with your success? If so, be happy and don't worry about others.0 -
I think some people just like to talk smack.....I am on the 1200 ...and I could easily go over most days..
This!0 -
... When you gain back all you lost and then more on top of that?0
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Yes! It bugs the crap out of me. I've decided they're all lying.
I'm not sure if you're joking but I concur!
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I agree and yes I am joking and thought that she was too.0
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Nope.0
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Not really.
I get to eat a lot of delicious good food that would never fit in a 1200 calorie plan. I did this and lost 20% of my body weight too.
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... When you gain back all you lost and then more on top of that?
See? This is the attitude and remarks that are more frequently seen on here. Talk about superiority.0 -
Yes! It bugs the crap out of me. I've decided they're all lying.
I'm not sure if you're joking but I concur!
And 2 more. Anyone keeping score?0 -
... When you gain back all you lost and then more on top of that?
now why would you say something so mean and spiteful? because someone isn't losing weight doing exactly what you're doing? what an incredibly hateful thing to say.0 -
No. MFP put me at 1200 and I can usually fill up on and not quite get to my calorie goal by eating a lot of fruits/veggies, lean meat, yogurt etc. I think activity level plays a big part. In the winter the only real exercise I get is on the deathmill so I have an almost sedentary lifestyle in the winter, hence I don't need that many calories. Today for example my calorie goal was 1550 because of exercise bonus points. I am 180 under that and won't eat anything else since I am staying at a hotel and the only food available is vending machine food. Am I hungry? A little, but not enough to fill up on junk or drive to the store for some string cheese. I do try to reach my goal everyday though so my metabolism doesn't slow down. I just think it all varies from person to person, activity level, etc. I personally gained some weight by eating only twice a day but eating things like pizza, fried food etc. Now I am eating every few hours and feel much better! Just do what works for you and don't worry about people that seem to be bragging. 0
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I would actually like to be like some of the super in shape people on here who eat way more than 1200 calories and still look incredible! :laugh:0
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It doesnt bother me just because i dont know their situation. That being said I think everyone needs to stop being so defensive and have an open mind. It isnt about people preaching to you to eat more, its really that you need to find the RIGHT calories for you, you shouldnt guess. Everyone's bodies burn differently and if you are undereating too much it will cause harm to your body in the long run. It isnt something that will happen tomorrow, but your body can only take so much before it starts fighting back.
We are all overweight because we have things we obviously need to learn. Keep your mind open to learning new things and understanding this whole process more. Some people are meant to be around 1200 some are not. You dont know unless you check your numbers and find out whats right for you. There is no reason for anyone to have to defend themselves and get nasty to someone because they dont agree. I have learned a lot on here and have taken the advice of many others, after i took the time to research for myself and believe it to be a good step. I have completely changed a lot of the ways i do things because of the knowledgeable people on this site and i wouldnt have been able to do that if i didn't keep an open mind and listen to others that know more then i did. I pretty knowledgeable in some areas but not all and i am grateful for what i am learned.
To the 1200 cal people, even though some people come off nasty and not helpful in their replies, there are a lot of others that a very helpful and just want to make sure you are in the right calorie range. When u eat too low your metabolism adjusts to the amount of fuel u give it and that is why you have no appetite and get full very quickly. I think its more people trying to help and others feeling attacked so these threads go on and on. Listen to each other and be open to learning new things, especially if you are someone that is new to the whole process.0 -
I am still hungry after 1200 calorie meals.0
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I have never encountered anyone acting superior because they eat at 1200 per day. It is way more common to see people who eat 1400 freak out when someone says they eat at 1200 and say that they are ruining their bodies and no one can survive on 1200 a day. Really? 200 calories a day is the difference between life and death? I can understand if someone is eating 500 calories of celery a day, but come on, 200 calories is one donut.
Life is too short to be bothered by such trivial things. Find something worse to be bothered by. Or look inside yourself to see WHY this bothers you so much. Are you happy with your success? If so, be happy and don't worry about others.
What bothers or doesn't bother me is none of your business. And it's not your place to tell me what I need to do to feel better about myself. If anyone seems bothered by this thread, it's you, since you attack my opinion every time I post about this topic. If you disagree, why not keep scrolling and leave me alone? I asked if some people in the 1200 crowd bother MFPers. They don't bother you. You answered the question. Move on.0 -
You started a thread about what bothers you. You made it everyone's business.
I have never encountered anyone acting superior because they eat at 1200 per day. It is way more common to see people who eat 1400 freak out when someone says they eat at 1200 and say that they are ruining their bodies and no one can survive on 1200 a day. Really? 200 calories a day is the difference between life and death? I can understand if someone is eating 500 calories of celery a day, but come on, 200 calories is one donut.
Life is too short to be bothered by such trivial things. Find something worse to be bothered by. Or look inside yourself to see WHY this bothers you so much. Are you happy with your success? If so, be happy and don't worry about others.
What bothers or doesn't bother me is none of your business. And it's not your place to tell me what I need to do to feel better about myself. If anyone seems bothered by this thread, it's you, since you attack my opinion every time I post about this topic. If you disagree, why not keep scrolling and leave me alone? I asked if some people in the 1200 crowd bother MFPers. They don't bother you. You answered the question. Move on.
You don't get to now be upset that people take offense to it.0 -
Most of us what really 'fat; before so 1200 sounds not much as i for one was eating 2000-3000 per day.
I'm not the most active of people so 1200 keeps me losing 1-2lb a week
and mfp set me up for that and its working and I feel full- if i dont its my own fault for not eating the right food as the days fee hungry probably ate 300cal choc bar instead of extra veg
We are all here for different reasons, and weigh different amounts, what works for one person doesn another, so noone should judge one person to the next.0 -
What bothers or doesn't bother me is none of your business.
Then why did you create a thread about what bothers you?0 -
...when people who eat 1200 calories or less brag about how they are "stuffed" eating that amount and "couldn't possibly eat anymore"? Depending on the situation and who you're talking to, the implication is generally that people who eat above 1200 are lazier and have less willpower. I understand wanting to be able to choose your own path to weight loss without being jumped on, but dissing people who are trying to help you isn't the way to do it.
Okay. I'm one of those people who eat 1200 (or try by best!) everyday.
Some days I eat over, usually if i've excerised.
Some days I do actually feel full.
I don't show off about it or want to hurt peoples feelings.
to the person saying, how did they get overweight, JUNK FOOD. It's very easy to eat a burger that is high in calories because in reality it isn't a lot of food. I got overweight from unhealthy choices, rather than eating too much. Does that make sense?0 -
You started a thread about what bothers you. You made it everyone's business.
I have never encountered anyone acting superior because they eat at 1200 per day. It is way more common to see people who eat 1400 freak out when someone says they eat at 1200 and say that they are ruining their bodies and no one can survive on 1200 a day. Really? 200 calories a day is the difference between life and death? I can understand if someone is eating 500 calories of celery a day, but come on, 200 calories is one donut.
Life is too short to be bothered by such trivial things. Find something worse to be bothered by. Or look inside yourself to see WHY this bothers you so much. Are you happy with your success? If so, be happy and don't worry about others.
What bothers or doesn't bother me is none of your business. And it's not your place to tell me what I need to do to feel better about myself. If anyone seems bothered by this thread, it's you, since you attack my opinion every time I post about this topic. If you disagree, why not keep scrolling and leave me alone? I asked if some people in the 1200 crowd bother MFPers. They don't bother you. You answered the question. Move on.
You don't get to now be upset that people take offense to it.
I said it in the most non-offensive, non-combative way I could. Everyone else responded POLITELY, even if they disagreed. You are the only one who is being rude and deliberately attacking me.0 -
I am never full on 1200 calories... even when I weighed 103 pounds. Yeah, my stomach was smaller. But, I still didn't get full on 1200. I need 1600-1800 to function properly. But, that's just me. 0
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...when people who eat 1200 calories or less brag about how they are "stuffed" eating that amount and "couldn't possibly eat anymore"? Depending on the situation and who you're talking to, the implication is generally that people who eat above 1200 are lazier and have less willpower. I understand wanting to be able to choose your own path to weight loss without being jumped on, but dissing people who are trying to help you isn't the way to do it.
Short answer: No, it doesn't bother me.
My typical, long-winded response:
I use this site for logging/tracking, support, and education. Focusing on the education part, I see TONS of conflicting information: small vs. large # of meals, HRM vs. MFP/equipment #s, eat back exercise calories vs. don't, breakfast as biggest meal vs. dinner, yadda-yadda. I take it all in, figure out what works for me, and discard the rest. My diary is open to MFP friends and I enabled my weight loss banner with every post. I rarely eat breakfast but when I do it's usually very small so I can save my calories for when I'm really hungry (@ night). That's what works for me. Were someone to come along and say, "Thou shalt eat a hearty breakfast, NO EXCEPTIONs", I'd be all like, "What-EVzzzzz!" and stick to what works for me. Last time I checked, neither "getting pissed" nor "taking offensive" were listed in the exercise database, so I don't waste my time. I don't religiously eat back my exercise calories, but when I do, I allow myself no more than 50% of them. That's what works for me. Someone comes along and say, "You're doing it wrong!" I just look and my weight ticker and brush my shoulder off. Likewise, when I post, I say "this is what I do" or "this is what works for me". I don't say things like, "You should" or "You shouldn't" or "Don't do that...", etc. because no matter how much info they provide in their post, I still don't know that person as well as they (should) know themselves. I'm not a medical professional or dietician, nor do I play one on TV (or in my mind).
Always remember, with ALL of this stuff, YMMV (your mileage may vary). If you know how to drive, stay in your lane cuz I'm certainly staying in mine!
OP: One last thing: Cheer up, turn that frown upside-down, and let the haters be your motivators! :flowerforyou:0 -
I said it in the most non-offensive, non-combative way I could. Everyone else responded POLITELY, even if they disagreed. You are the only one who is being rude and deliberately attacking me.
No one deliberately attacked you, including me. And I didn't say anything that someone else hadn't already said.
You started a thread about your own insecurities and you didn't like the answers so now you're having a meltdown. Enjoy.0 -
Yes, it would bother me if someone was 'bragging' about it, as you say in your post. That sounds like thinly veiled judgment.0
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I have a hard time supporting people who aren't eating enough and that would include most of the 1200 calorie people who workout. It isn't healthy.0
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