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  • juliec33
    juliec33 Posts: 238 Member
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    I don't really have any good advice, other than to say that I don't think you're pathetic. I think you just haven't been ready yet to do what you need to do. Some people are never ready - some don't even bother to try in the first place. At least you are trying. It shows you have the desire. Now it's just a matter of whether or not that desire is strong enough to outweigh the things that are holding you back. Set your priorities. Don't punish yourself, don't be too restrictive, and don't rush things. When you are ready, you will make permanent changes to your life for the better. Good luck! :flowerforyou:

    This!!!!!! Great advice. When you're ready you will be able to do it
  • diligentjosh
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    btw...exercise is only worth as much as you put into it. The science behind weight loss is a constant for everyone:

    energy consumed = energy used You stay the same true weight
    energy consumed > energy used You will gain true weight
    energy consumed < energy used You will lose weight

    If you do not know what your energy burn rate is, you should be hittin the books if you want to lose weight. Laws of physics says the less mass an object has, the less energy is needed to move it. For an example: It takes Rosie O'donnel more calories to walk down the street than it does Kim Kardashian. So for every pound you lose, the more you must increase your workout level to attain the same calories burned in a given time period.

    My first goal is to get under 200 lbs, but my second goal is to be back over 200 lbs, but with less volume and a lesser body fat percentage.

    Go up another 2-3 levels on your workouts. It may hurt, but in a little bit it will hurt so good! Go get it!
  • girlonabikedc
    girlonabikedc Posts: 111 Member
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    Have you ever heard the story of the howling dog?

    A man was walking by a house one day, and noticed a dog lying on the porch that was howling and moaning. The dog's owner was sitting on the porch, not minding the dog. The dog kept howling & wimpering.

    'What's wrong with your dog?", the passerby asked the man.

    "He's laying on a nail and it's hurting him".

    "Well, why doesn't he got up off the nail?"

    "Doesn't hurt enough yet, I guess."


    When it hurts enough, you'll find the motivation to change your circumstances.
  • diligentjosh
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    I am also testing out a theory: Does beer before a workout increase your workout output? Watchin the abysmal Indy/Jags game, but afterwards I will be hittin the gym, with Heineken and Fritos being the only fuel.....results pending. If my results are that I burn more calories and lose weight, I will be going to the gym every time with a BAL of about .04-.06!
  • lsauce22
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    I found dieting/eating right in college to be extremely challenging. Everything offered as part of the meal plan was usually fried and super greasy, and the healthy stuff was usually tasteless. Even when I moved into an apartment with my own kitchen, there was hardly time to cook between classes, group projects and the fun stuff. So, don't beat yourself up, because being a student means a constantly changing schedule. Dieting is hard but when you don't have a set schedule it seems a million times harder. Here are some things that really helped ME maintain a healthy weight during school, however I'm not an expert of any kind:

    1. Drink lots of water. If you feel hungry and it's not a meal time, drink water before you eat something.
    2. If you eat at the dorm, hit the salad bar first. This will diminish that feeling of being extremely hungry and help you think rationally when you hit the legitimate food later. Also when it comes to salad, dressing always gets people. My roommate used to think that she was eating healthy by having a salad, except she dumped like 3 tablespoons of ranch on there, and shredded cheese, and whatever else. Just keep it as clean as possible.
    3. If you drink, avoid heavy beers or drinks mixed with regular soda or lemonade. I usually try some vodka cranberry mix, diet coke or if I have to, light beer.
    4. Keep a couple lean cuisines handy. They taste pretty good, are usually on sale, and low in fat and calories. The sodium levels are through the roof, but the occasional lean cuisine won't cause any lasting damage.

    As far as workouts go...Check out the situation at your school's rec center, there's a good chance they offer some type of fitness classes. My last few years at school my friends and I did zumba once a week and we loved it! My final semester I started taking a spin class, which was hard at first but ended up being an awesome workout. You can also look at classes offered at rec centers nearby. Most gyms will let you try the class out for free! Find a friend who will be a good gym pal. Maybe someone who already has a solid routine down who you can tag along with. It's always easier with another person there.

    Best of luck to you!
  • ShaeLovelyy
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    I have a meal plan too and cant afford healthy food either so i totally agree! Its hard but it takes some work! Start doing your research girl. Portion the food you eat at school. If its fried vs grilled obviously go with the grilled. Stay away from the soda and french fries. Its easier than you think. At first you seem overwhelmed with all the fattening food at college. But ive been to two colleges already and they are all the same thing. They do have options of salads..and grilled chicken over fried...its YOU that has to be the one to make the right choice. Start disciplining yourself. Once you get used to the discipline then you will be fine. i was addicted to sodaaa and i quit it.now when i see soda i dont even want it anymore. I drink it sometimes on weekends when i go out to a resturaunt. Its all about discipline and dedication. How bad do you want it really? If your calling yourself pathetic then obviously you want it bad. Follow the MFP guidelines. Workout. Pick the lesser of two evils when it comes to college food and you WILL see change! Trust me i started at 200 pounds last april and now i am at 175..5 pounds under my goal weight. Yes im very tall so this is a thin weight for me haha good luck!
  • tdbad1
    tdbad1 Posts: 87 Member
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    As amazing as it sounds, i have found that eating healthy is actually cheaper.

    When filling up on convenience foods we are getting "empty" calories, and get hungry again faster. I found when i was eating mostly veggies, fruits, meat...and carbs in moderation my grocery bill was cheaper. I fyou can get yourself to change the thoughts running through your head, you will find the opposite is actually true.

    Often times we get so used to thinking one way we are resistance to change. It becomes easier to just stay the way it is, and our brain tries to keep it that way. Youve made some huge changes, by going for your education...that took courage to change, even if you don't know it. you can do this too.
    Maybe try writing down comments that are positive, to counteract the ones you posted...read them daily, sounds wishy washy i know, but it's been known to work at changing thought patterns.
  • babybird3
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    don't stress it girl. it is SOOOO hard living on campus to eat healthy and find time to workout. i struggle with it too. Sometimes it helps to plan out your day and try to figure out how to fit everything in, and to never get stressed/upset about it. it definitely makes it worse for me to eat well if im stressed! Good luck =)
  • taraaaal
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    I'm glad to hear that i'm not the only one who finds it extremely difficult to do this in college...
    I RARELY if ever drink... so that isn't an issue. I also only drink water/tea.
  • SexyTmar
    SexyTmar Posts: 23 Member
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    For each excuse you come up with .. make yourself 2 reasons to stick with it!

    Start with Baby Steps .. don't try to slam dunk it all at once. You may need to simply start off with the mere basics.. and that's logging every thing you eat and drink for a week or so. Don't be concerned with any goals YET.

    Take a good look at your diary after this initial week or 2 and see what can you change. Are you eating out a lot? do you sit and eat a bag of chips and dip in one sitting? Are you drinking a lot of sodas .. eating a lot of processed (pre-packaged) foods and meals?

    Make initial adjustments small .. walk for 15-20 minutes a few times a week .. don't start with 1200 calorie a day goal .. start with only eating a deficit of 100 calories .. cutting out refined sugars .. lowering some carbs or increasing your protein and fiber. (will keep you feeling full longer)

    As you begin to feel like you can stick with those little changes .. then you can up the ante .. lower your deficit by another 100 calories .. exercise longer and more often. Be patient with yourself!

    This is a lifestyle change .. and hopefully one that will be life long :-) forgive yourself on days you didn't meet your goals. Don't look at them as failures .. but as reasons to work harder the next day or week :flowerforyou:

    YOU CAN DO THIS!

    VERY well said!
  • rd16
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    first of all YOU are NOT pathetic! you have to stop saying that to yourself. i, too, am 5"2" and abt the same weight as you.although i'm probably much older. just remember to make small LIFE changes. this is something you have to do for the rest of your life so it has to be reasonable. like... take sugar OUT of your diet for 2wks. you CAN do that. day by day. it sounds silly but put a sticker on that day of your calendar when you make it a day w/o sugar. or when you exercise that day. it's a good visual and will keep you motivated. exercise is NOT an option! do something everyday for a minimum of 20mins. it will be interesting to see how you're doing in a week!! :)
  • thr33martins
    thr33martins Posts: 192 Member
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    Start with forgiving yourself and NEVER calling yourself names like "pathetic" again!!! Life happens, especially when you are in college. You are not pathetic....you are normal. It will come to you. In the mean time, try not to criticize yourself. It will only make you feel helpless and undermine your goals. :smile:
  • elishazf
    elishazf Posts: 332 Member
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    I have been on this website for too long to have absolutely nothing to show for it. All I need to lose is 30lbs and I can't do it.. I get really into it and then something get in the way. Here are the different reasons why I get sidetracked:

    "I can't afford to buy healthy food."
    "I have a meal plan... its hard to keep track of the food they have."
    "I never see any results."
    "I don't have time to go to the gym."
    etc. etc. etc.

    The list can go on forever. I have no self esteem and I NEED to find a way to change things. I NEED to be more motivated. I am so ashamed of myself and I really don't know how to get past this terrible place I am in...

    I'm 5'1 and since I started college I have avoided the scale... but I would assume I am up to 155-160 When I am really on track I eat 1200 calories a day and work out 3x per week. The results are almost non existent. When I was trying my hardest, I never was able to get below 145, and that was after being in the hospital for three days...

    please help me
    Welll calling yourself pathetic definitely won'te help your self esteem and if it means anything I don't think you're pathetic. Far from it. I used to have those exact same issues until one work I just forced myself to go to the gym. If I was coming home from work I'd bring a change of clothes so I'd go straight to the gym and wouldn't have an excuse. One thing you have to keep in mind is that results aren't instant and not everyone is the same. Everyone's different. It took me months before I even lost 5 pounds. the key is repetition. Don't compare yourself to others. Some people lose fast some people don't lose it as fast but you will get there as long as you persevere. And during my freshmen year at ECU I never weighed myself ever. Especially since I was a frat brother. Don't be so hard on yourself. You'll get there.
  • diligentjosh
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    As amazing as it sounds, i have found that eating healthy is actually cheaper.

    When filling up on convenience foods we are getting "empty" calories, and get hungry again faster. I found when i was eating mostly veggies, fruits, meat...and carbs in moderation my grocery bill was cheaper. I fyou can get yourself to change the thoughts running through your head, you will find the opposite is actually true.


    Anything bought that is readymade is bad for you and filled with fat. On that same token, however, on the financial side you are comparing apples to oranges. Healthy stuff at the market, compared to unhealthy stuff at the market, is more expensive. Things that come in a can or a box generally cost less. But, of course, if you eat out every day, you spend more because of the cost that the producer spend making the food. I just wanted to clarify what you meant and what she is clarifying by "more expensive." Both of you, however, are right in your messages!
  • razzmahtazz
    razzmahtazz Posts: 78 Member
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    I don't really have any good advice, other than to say that I don't think you're pathetic. I think you just haven't been ready yet to do what you need to do. Some people are never ready - some don't even bother to try in the first place. At least you are trying. It shows you have the desire. Now it's just a matter of whether or not that desire is strong enough to outweigh the things that are holding you back. Set your priorities. Don't punish yourself, don't be too restrictive, and don't rush things. When you are ready, you will make permanent changes to your life for the better. Good luck! :flowerforyou:

    I love what you said!
  • californiagirl2012
    californiagirl2012 Posts: 2,625 Member
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    I have been on this website for too long to have absolutely nothing to show for it. All I need to lose is 30lbs and I can't do it.. I get really into it and then something get in the way. Here are the different reasons why I get sidetracked:

    "I can't afford to buy healthy food."
    "I have a meal plan... its hard to keep track of the food they have."
    "I never see any results."
    "I don't have time to go to the gym."
    etc. etc. etc.

    The list can go on forever. I have no self esteem and I NEED to find a way to change things. I NEED to be more motivated. I am so ashamed of myself and I really don't know how to get past this terrible place I am in...

    I'm 5'1 and since I started college I have avoided the scale... but I would assume I am up to 155-160 When I am really on track I eat 1200 calories a day and work out 3x per week. The results are almost non existent. When I was trying my hardest, I never was able to get below 145, and that was after being in the hospital for three days...

    please help me

    I'm 5'1" and I've been there. Worse than that. I floundered for 15 years. I never achieved my goal until I was 50. I'm almost 52. I lost a lot of years following a lot of crap and yo-yo'd from one diet to the next. I ran marathon after marathon and worked my butt off at the gym lifting heavy weights for over 30 years, martial arts for 10 years, yet the weight kept creeping up. It's because I'm so small and don't need as much food as everyone around me. It didn't seem like I ate too much. I didn't binge, pig out, emotionally eat, or eat junk food. I ate healthy all my life.

    I'm older but this is what finally worked for me once and for all. I hope at least once piece of it helps you.

    There is no mystery to weight loss, everyone thinks something is wrong, their metabolism is broken, they have low thyroid, they have menopause or whatever issue, they are as unique as a snowflake, whatever. I thought a lot of these things once too but once the doctor helped resolve the health issues for me I learned there is still no magic pill. Most people eat more than they need to and are not at good at estimating calories as they think they are. Most people have a lower BMR than they think they do. The only way to know for sure is to go to a lab and have it tested. It doesn't seem fair to have to eat less and feel a little hunger. It's hard to face the truth of it, very hard. It's not fun. It's drudgery at times. But if you learn to enjoy your smaller amounts of food (necessary to lose weight, since the reason we got fat in the first place was eating too much whether we knew it or not), and rejoice in your victories it can be done.

    All I can do is share what worked for me. I achieved my goal at age 50 after beating my head against the wall for 15 years. Yeah anyone can do it, but I can tell you that you are up against a lot when you are older and I believe females have some unique issue to face with hormones and such. The sooner you can get a handle on it the better. DO NOT GIVE UP. As I got older and the weight piled on (and I didn't feel I was eating too much!) everyone kept telling me to give up, this is what happens when you get older. I'm small, and I didn't realize how small I was until I lost the weight. Everyone said I had big bones. I looked hefty because I worked out. Once I lost the weight I realized how small I really was and that small people don't need to eat as much as big people. HINT: If you are short you are probably small.

    Your body loses weight in chunks, not linear. I have found that you can do everything right and your weight loss seems to plateau but if you are patient and keep exercising and eating at a deficit (however slight) you will lose it, it will suddenly "whoosh". There are so many variables for the scale; water retention, digestion, hormones, allergies, sodium, carbs, water intake, DOMS, inflammation, the list goes on. People mistakenly think they lose or gain weight when they eat more or less because of these fluctuations.

    Losing weight requires tremendous patience. You will not lose it when you want it or where you want it. The body does its thing. Some apparent plateaus can last a month or so. You cannot make it happen faster. You must focus on two things; calories and exercise. Nothing else matters. Scales and metrics don't matter. The day in and day out grind of exercise and calories are all that matters. It is not very exciting until things fall into place. You get your victories and you ride one victory to the next.

    The scale is a trend tool. The scale is good but put it away and only check once a week and only use it as a trend tool. It will fluctuate, it does not matter. Take front side and back progress pictures at least once a month. You will see differences that the metrics won't tell you and it's that little bit of NSV that will keep you going until the next victory.

    To say eat more is wrong.

    To say eat less is wrong.

    To find the exact calories needed for YOU to be in a healthy sustainable calorie deficit is the right answer. Wait, if you need to adjust by 100 do it, wait, adjust, wait, adjust, wait. The tortoise wins this race.

    All that matters is calories. A healthy balanced diet within a calorie budget for a deficit that is right for YOU is all that matters for weight loss. Don't make it complicated.


    Also people play mental accounting games with calories just like with finances. Make steps to make sure you are making accurate measurements. Packaged foods can have MORE than they say but not less (they get in trouble if less so they would rather error with MORE).

    If you typically intake sodium at a certain rate your body adjusts, but if you make a sudden change then you will see a spike.

    Exercise is for making your lean body mass pretty (especially lifting weights) for when the fat is gone. Losing fat with no muscle is ugly and cardio alone will not make you pretty. You cannot out exercise too many calories.

    It really is about calories. I tell people this all the time and they say "Well if calories are all that matter why do you eat so clean???!!" Well, because it makes me feel better, sleep better, and perform better at my sports.

    Too many changes at once can be hard on some people. I've always eaten healthy so it easy for me to simply eat less. Eating at a calorie deficit is hard on people; even a small deficit puts your body in a state of flux with hormones and such. Everyone is different. Some people can handle a deeper calorie deficit than others, this is not right or wrong, it just is. Stress in your life affects your hunger hormones; lack of sleep, fatigue, job stress, family stress, financial stress, etc. Add in emotional eating issues and it gets even more complicated. Most people can only handle so much change/stress at once, they try to do too much and fail. Sometimes it might be a better strategy to eat at maintenance and make some small changes first, it really depends on how much stress you are taking in at the moment.
    What is the exact number of calories for you?

    We’ve been trying to figure out an exact NUMBER of calories that everyone should be eating, without recognizing that everyone is slightly different. In truth, the calories aren’t the end game. Your body is. So the EXACT amount of Calories that are right for you is the EXACT amount that will allow you to maintain your ideal bodyweight no matter what some calculator or chart says.

    In other words, an online calculator might tell you that you need to eat 2,500 calories
    per day to maintain your ideal bodyweight. But the only way to know for sure if this is
    the right amount for you is to test it out. If you gain weight or can’t lose weight eating
    that much, then you know you need to eat less to lose weight no matter how many
    calculators and text books say otherwise.

    This doesn’t mean your metabolism is broken, it just means the estimate of your needs
    was just a bit off.

    -John Barban (The Body Centric Calorie Guide from the Venus Index and Adonis Index Manuals)


    The good thing is you don't have to worry about the starvation mode myth if you are fat. Only skinny people have to worry about starvation mode. It does not mean you have the capability to eat at a large calorie deficit if you have emotional eating disorders or other issues going on, but at least you don't have to be afraid of it anymore.

    The Theory of Fat Availability:
    •There is a set amount of fat that can be released from a fat cell.
    •The more fat you have, the more fat can be used as a fuel when dieting.
    •The less fat you have, the less fat can be used as a fuel when dieting.
    •Towards the end of a transformation, when body fat is extremely low you
    may not have enough fat to handle a large caloric deficit anymore.

    At the extreme low end, when your body fat cannot ‘keep up’ with the energy deficit
    you've imposed on your body, the energy MUST come from SOMEWHERE. This is
    when you are at risk of losing lean body mass during dieting (commonly referred to
    as ‘starvation mode’). This happens at extremely low levels of body fat, under 6% in
    men and 12% in women [Friedl K.E. J Appl Phsiol, 1994].

    -Brad Pilon and John Barban (from The Reverse Taper Diet in The Adonis Index and Venus Index manuals)

    Lifting weights is KEY. I recently had my DXA scan done and at 51.5 years of age I have the bone density of a super athletic 30 year old. That is a direct result of lifting for over 30 years. Now if that is not scientific proof that lifting weights keeps you younger I don't know what is! Also I believe it is why most people think I look much younger than I really am.

    Start lifting now, lift heavy and change it up often, find a lot of weight routines with free weights, make it fun, embrace it, make it part of your life. Only 3 days a week is all it would take. Crank up your tunes and learn to love it, because your body will love it and it will make your quality of life better in many ways, especially when you get older like me.

    Because of this I don't have to worry about osteoporosis. If you wait until you are older and your bones start to deteriorate it's a bit too late, you can't get back what you lost, and you can only start a resistance routine that will prevent further damage.

    If you are female you don't have the hormones to get big naturally. I lift heavy and I'm still really tiny. My lean body mass is only 104 lbs and that is fairly heavy for a 5'1" female, and quite a bit of this is due to my having very dense bones from 30 years of lifting, not all muscle, and I'm still quite tiny.

    My muscles really are not that big, but they show a lot of definition because I'm quite lean. If I gained some fat then I would have a softer more toned look (which is OKAY too!). Then if I gained more fat I would look bulky and hefty like I did most of my life until last year. YOU CAN HAVE WHATEVER YOU WANT. Lean and ripped, soft and toned, or hefty, it all depends on how much fat you leave on your body. Calories are the only thing that changes fat. Exercise is for changing or maintaining your lean body mass only. Lifting weights will give you the best bang for your buck for shaping your body. I finally changed my shape by putting lifting first and cardio 2nd. You cannot out exercise too many calories.

    Being on a calorie deficit is hard. You can't do this journey on will power alone. You must set up your environment for success. Have a team around you in your real life, not just online. Get trigger foods out of the house. It will take some sacrifice and it's not easy. You might have to say no to some social events sometimes.

    For me it's all about a calorie budget. I had less of a budget available when I was losing weight, more to spend now that I'm maintaining and all the tools I used for weight loss come into play for the rest of my life maintaining.

    When you have accumulated excess fat, you have accumulated a debt. It is hard to pay off the debt (you have less calories to spend). If you are sitting next to someone your same gender and height and they are not overweight and you are, they get to eat more than you (have more calories to spend) because they are debt free. You have less calories to spend because you are paying off your debt.
  • G__Force
    G__Force Posts: 280 Member
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    Are you posting your dairy so your friends can see, maybe they can give you some pointers and help you alog. Theres no reason you should not be losing weight if your working it. dont get done on yourself.
  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
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    make a thread, and post the thread.
  • MinMin97
    MinMin97 Posts: 2,676 Member
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    I get this!
    I would always fail at "dieting."
    But I have found that, if you select a few things to improve upon each week...something attainable, that will move you forward, write them on an index card or whatever, and focus on a few changes at a time.

    Don't expect total change and perfection all at once. Improvement, not perfection, is the goal. We all fail at perfection, but improvement is awesome and encouraging!

    It is true, that when you begin to make changes, you will run into those "walls"....basically, you run into the old habits. Don't be discouraged by that. It's good to run into those walls, 'cause that's where you are on the cutting edge of change.

    Encourage yourself, and acknowlege all your improvements, not just the scale, but your habits and patterns, too:)
  • SoDamnHungry
    SoDamnHungry Posts: 6,998 Member
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    I answer these without judging, only the desire to help:

    "I can't afford to buy healthy food." - Healthy food can be cheap, too. At the very least, eat less of the bad food. Calories, calories, calories. Most of what I eat is junk, but I just don't eat as much junk.
    "I have a meal plan... its hard to keep track of the food they have." - Get veggies as a side and don't eat as much of the bad stuff.
    "I never see any results." - Results take time.
    "I don't have time to go to the gym." - If you have time to post this thread, you at least have time to talk a walk or do an exercise video.