Obese flier turned away from airlines; dies overseas
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Silly people.0
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You too? 3-day-old Subway?I have really bad diarrhea today.0 -
You too? 3-day-old Subway?I have really bad diarrhea today.
Intramuscular injection of antibiotics.
I think they confused the medicine with laxatives.0 -
You too? 3-day-old Subway?I have really bad diarrhea today.
Intramuscular injection of antibiotics.
I think they confused the medicine with laxatives.
Be sure that if you fly the airlines has enough TP or you could sue. HA!!!0 -
A few months of decay and her weight and size would have been fine for that airline to send her back. They just need to practice patience!0
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Homeless, and SExy ....... and dead:indifferent:0 -
Oh goodness!!!! I think I had a mild case of dyslexia or boogie in the eye because I thought she was 86, not 56!!! No, 56 isn't old!!! So sorry peeps in their 50s... you have the rest of your life ahead of you!
However, a woman in her condition probably had the BODY of an 86 year old anyway.0 -
Here's the thing:
If the airline could not guarantee her departure AND her return, they should never have sold her the ticket. End of Story. In my opinion, they accepted responsibility by letting her take the plane THERE, and then stranded her in another country. I don't care who you are, that's just WRONG.
If the airline isn't capable of transporting - then FINE. But don't take someone to a foreign country and then go "ohh.. oops. Sorry. Tough luck. You're gonna have to find some other way home. Sucks to be you."
yeah. That's GREAT business..
Someone quoted an article that the crew + fire department COULD NOT GET HER IN HER SEAT. She couldn't board independently. So they had to deny boarding and it sounds like they went above and beyond to accomodate her in some other way to get home. There is only so much they can do - she purchased a ticket she was unable to use because of her medical condition. Maybe they had to downsize the aircraft to something smaller because of a maintenance issue or something, that happens all the time. And having worked for an airline, you pull up a list of all passengers on this flight that having requested assistance, and there were very rarely any details about what they need. They could be blind, elderly needing a ride to their connection, or once, an elderly man with a catheter, colostomy bag, and paralyzed from the neck down. You don't know until you locate them and then you do what you can as quick as you can. That poor man was nearly dropped twice coming off that plane since he could offer no assistance for himself, and this was with about 6 employees helping carry him off.
I mean, if you were a passenger on that flight would you be cool if they delayed the flight for 8 hours to bring in additional resources to get her in her seat? Maybe the crew would have entered their mandatory rest period by then and the flight would be cancelled. Seen that happen, where we airline employees requested a flight delay to accomodate a special passenger or a whole group coming in on a connecting flight that was running late, but no, if we took a delay like that, the crew would 'time out' and then the whole flight is cancelled. So the flight would leave without them.
There's all sorts of things I can think of as to why they would eventually make the decision to leave her behind, but ultimately, she could not get in her seat. Her medical issues are sad and it's sad that she passed away but the airline did not cause her death, her medical issues did. She could have seen a doctor where she was, she chose not to do that.0 -
Woooooooooow.... given that this is MFP, I was expecting outrage, as is appropriate given the circumstances. If Kevin Smith had died due to not being able to get home because that airline refused him clearance to fly (and he isn't even that big), there would be a world wide uproar and a change in the procedures. That woman was a human being, with the right to live, be allowed to leave the country that allowed her clearance to enter in the first place, and see her physicians who might have been able to save her, knowing her conditions, and the airline that had NO TROUBLE taking her away from her doctors, should have returned her. Anyone saying 'there are doctors in Europe,' go watch the documentary Chernobyl Heart and watch the maternity ward footage. Hospitals are NOT the same.
All of you responding that she 'killed herself,' (given that I was once 290 pounds and have now lost over 100 pounds) I beg to ****ing differ. It is never too late to make changes, it is never too late to decide to get healthy...until an airline denies you the ability to seek medical care at home. She was not given such an opportunity to reach such a stage and that IS the airlines' fault. They hauled her *kitten* there, they should have hauled her *kitten* back. PERIOD! Law suit handled.
And seriously, I've heard there's a lot of negative, trolling and bashing on this site (which is for people JUST LIKE HER to find support), but I'd never personally encountered it. Well, open my eyes. Here it all is.
I agree !the airline that had NO TROUBLE taking her away from her doctors, should have returned her.
SERIOUSLY. You think they "took her away" from her doctors? And although she probably gained weight while in Hungary they STILL need to accommodate, even though they used an entire fire brigade team to attempt it?? Also, when she was accommodated with ANOTHER plane, with THREE SEATS, and she couldn't get in them...
Seriously? What else do you expect them to do??
How many excuses can you make up for someone that a) should not have been traveling in the first place with such a horrible medical condition, b) should have sought another hospital, or c) - no, wait, yeah, just a) and b) is all I need.
Not saying I don't feel bad for her and the burden of grief her husband now has.
But come on. They did what they could. She woman should have never been traveling.
In the article it even says the woman drove with her husband to a different airport. How come she didn't take a pit stop at a dialysis clinic?
She didn't trust any medical professionals in the country. The airlines even went out of their way to try to provide her with competitive airlines that could help.
Wow were you there to know all of this?0 -
When did obesity become a disability?
She had those diseases because of her obesity
Why should we have to accomodate this?
Although I dont feel the airline is responsible for her death. I do have to add that like any addiction wether it is to food or alcohol it is indeed a disease. A disease of the mind. It's an addiction and food addiction happens to be the most difficult to break. If you see a person who is 300lb+ they are suffering from the disease of addcition that can eventually lead to crippling disability.0 -
OK from what I read she was obese but sounds like there were things that could have caused that (says she was an ampute, not sure what but that could hinder exercise) and regardless, the airline was able to get her over there (and was able to every year get her to and from) why couldn't they get her back?
I'm not a professional, but can't you lose limbs from diabetes? Which also CAN result from a bad diet. Depending on the type of diabetes.
Yes you can. I have an uncle who is close to losing both of his feet from diabetes. You can lose the circulation in your limbs from unmanaged diabetes.
I beg to differ, my neice is a diabetic is as skinny as a rake and has no BAD diet whatsoever. However due to her diabetes she has various problems with her circulation. I seriously wish people would stop speculating when they really don't know they are talking about!!0 -
Apparently she couldnt go to a hospital overseas because they didnt know her history. Fair enough, but there's this wonderful thing called a fax machine, and email, and her records could have been sent over. This isnt the airlines fault at all. If she was so sick she never should have travelled.0
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When did obesity become a disability?
She had those diseases because of her obesity
Why should we have to accomodate this?
Although I dont feel the airline is responsible for her death. I do have to add that like any addiction wether it is to food or alcohol it is indeed a disease. A disease of the mind. It's an addiction and food addiction happens to be the most difficult to break. If you see a person who is 300lb+ they are suffering from the disease of addcition that can eventually lead to crippling disability.
Well before I started dieting I was 323lbs, don't have a crippling disability. In fact I am on my 3rd day of the insanity programme. So maybe I probably have lost my mind with the pathetic comments on this forum tonight.
Why are over 300lb and 400lb people targetted on this topic? Are you seriously telling me that a woman/man who is 30 or 40 pounds overweight they don't have an addiction? Seriously guys get real and talk some sense0 -
How did she get over there in the first place? Assuming there were no problems flying over there, why such a mix up flying back?
Thinking they have a pretty good case against the airline that allowed her to fly away from home but would not fly her back--inconsistent refusal of service = discrimation on what was clearly a disability.
How is being fat a disabilty? Did I miss something? :huh:0 -
Were there no doctors for her to see overseas? If she was having medical issues to the point of death, her husband should have taken her to a hospital. The fact that she died doesn't seem to have to do with the fact that she couldn't board her plane, but by the fact that she was old, obese, and had several comorbidities. This is an extremely sad article; I will be interested to see how the lawsuit turns out.
Oh. Everyone 56 and over better be prepared to die. We are old.
Seriously there are very few compassionate people here considering this site is to encourage a healthy lifestyle. And we all know she was not a MFP member how? Oh. We don't. We are all sitting here judging a woman without knowing how much or little she was attempting to improve her life
Please feel free to bash my opinion if you desire. I am old and near death, or so i am told, so it won't hurt me for long.0 -
If you could stop being so sanctimonious for just one second and scroll up a few posts, you will find something that may change your mind about the person you are quoting.Were there no doctors for her to see overseas? If she was having medical issues to the point of death, her husband should have taken her to a hospital. The fact that she died doesn't seem to have to do with the fact that she couldn't board her plane, but by the fact that she was old, obese, and had several comorbidities. This is an extremely sad article; I will be interested to see how the lawsuit turns out.
Oh. Everyone 56 and over better be prepared to die. We are old.
Seriously there are very few compassionate people here considering this site is to encourage a healthy lifestyle. And we all know she was not a MFP member how? Oh. We don't. We are all sitting here judging a woman without knowing how much or little she was attempting to improve her life
Please feel free to bash my opinion if you desire. I am old and near death, or so i am told, so it won't hurt me for long.0 -
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