Help please on no carb and fat diet
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Calorie counting gives an incomplete picture. While it is a good guideline, you really also need to control your insulin levels with the carbs that you eat. I recommend learning about the Glycemic Index of the foods you eat. This will help you determine which fruits and veg are more likely to help you loose weight. Here is how it works. If you eat carbs (fruits, veg, sugars, breads ,etc) with a high glycemic index, your blood sugar will rapidly rise. Believe it or not, too much glucose (sugar) in the blood can be toxic so the body releases insulin which is a hormone that tells your body to clear the excess sugar from the blood and store it in your fat cells. Some fruits are worse than others. For instance, strawberries and peaches will cause a less dramatic effect in raising blood sugar than say, bananas or mangos.
Leafy green veggies like broccoli, spinach, salad greens, celery and kale have so little effect on raising blood sugar that you could not eat enough to ever get fat. Eat these in unlimited quantities. Potatoes, tomatoes, onions, carrots and other starchier veggies will cause blood sugar to rise a little faster and if you eat too many may inhibit fat loss.
One of my favorite authors, Robb Wolf who wrote The Paleo Solution would recommend limiting fruit to 1-2 pieces/day for fat loss.0 -
Thanks guys for all your comments. I was confused in thinking that vegetables and fruits carbs would make me gain. Iv also read that once your body reaches a certain weight, it can gain even when your eating healthy, is that correct?
In answer to those saying ill be tired from
My diet I'm used to it now!
Thanks again guys xxx0 -
Iv lost weight and feel I'm not losing anymore. I'm not eating fat, or white carbs just veg lean meat and iv cut down on fruit.
EAT FAT!!! (but keep your calories the same.)
great sources:
nuts
fish
avocados
olive oil
in order to properly and fully absord protein, your body needs dietary fat along with the protein.
your body NEEDS fat. to lose fat, you need to eat fat.0 -
Iv also read that once your body reaches a certain weight, it can gain even when your eating healthy, is that correct?
You only gain when you are eating too much for your expended energy.
TDEE = total daily energy expenditure. This is the number of calories where you would not gain or lose any weight, also known as Maintenance Calories.
If you eat more than that, you will gain. If you eat less than that, you will lose. It doesn't matter if it is healthy food or not, if you are eating too much twinkies or lettuce, you will gain. It would just have to be a heck of a lot more lettuce since that is low calorie. The amount of energy your body needs depends on your own height, weight, age, metabolism, and amount of moving around you do.0 -
Calorie counting gives an incomplete picture. While it is a good guideline, you really also need to control your insulin levels with the carbs that you eat. I recommend learning about the Glycemic Index of the foods you eat. This will help you determine which fruits and veg are more likely to help you loose weight. Here is how it works. If you eat carbs (fruits, veg, sugars, breads ,etc) with a high glycemic index, your blood sugar will rapidly rise. Believe it or not, too much glucose (sugar) in the blood can be toxic so the body releases insulin which is a hormone that tells your body to clear the excess sugar from the blood and store it in your fat cells. Some fruits are worse than others. For instance, strawberries and peaches will cause a less dramatic effect in raising blood sugar than say, bananas or mangos.
Leafy green veggies like broccoli, spinach, salad greens, celery and kale have so little effect on raising blood sugar that you could not eat enough to ever get fat. Eat these in unlimited quantities. Potatoes, tomatoes, onions, carrots and other starchier veggies will cause blood sugar to rise a little faster and if you eat too many may inhibit fat loss.
One of my favorite authors, Robb Wolf who wrote The Paleo Solution would recommend limiting fruit to 1-2 pieces/day for fat loss.
No you don't and no it doesn't0 -
Thanks guys for all your comments. I was confused in thinking that vegetables and fruits carbs would make me gain. Iv also read that once your body reaches a certain weight, it can gain even when your eating healthy, is that correct?
In answer to those saying ill be tired from
My diet I'm used to it now!
Thanks again guys xxx
Don't believe everything you read. On a balanced diet with fruits and vegetables, healthy fats, and protein you can achieve and maintain a healthy weight.0 -
also, what volcangreen said.
you should get acquainted with the glycemic index, and how it effects your body and your weight loss efforts.
also, if you eat carbs with a meal (the lower glycemic index the better), incorporating plenty of protein along and fat along with your carb will lower the original glycemic index of that carb food.0 -
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Solid first post.Your body needs carbs, the carbs in fruits and veggies are good for you, the ones in bread are bad. Without carbs you will find yourself eating a lot more to stay full, thats where you get burned! Eat as many fruits and veggies as you want, limit everything else!
Except not really.
hahahaha... sweet lord... this *kitten* is funny :-) Thank you for the smile!0 -
Calorie counting gives an incomplete picture. While it is a good guideline, you really also need to control your insulin levels with the carbs that you eat. I recommend learning about the Glycemic Index of the foods you eat. This will help you determine which fruits and veg are more likely to help you loose weight. Here is how it works. If you eat carbs (fruits, veg, sugars, breads ,etc) with a high glycemic index, your blood sugar will rapidly rise. Believe it or not, too much glucose (sugar) in the blood can be toxic so the body releases insulin which is a hormone that tells your body to clear the excess sugar from the blood and store it in your fat cells. Some fruits are worse than others. For instance, strawberries and peaches will cause a less dramatic effect in raising blood sugar than say, bananas or mangos.
Leafy green veggies like broccoli, spinach, salad greens, celery and kale have so little effect on raising blood sugar that you could not eat enough to ever get fat. Eat these in unlimited quantities. Potatoes, tomatoes, onions, carrots and other starchier veggies will cause blood sugar to rise a little faster and if you eat too many may inhibit fat loss.
One of my favorite authors, Robb Wolf who wrote The Paleo Solution would recommend limiting fruit to 1-2 pieces/day for fat loss.
Protein raises insulin, too.0 -
Iv also read that once your body reaches a certain weight, it can gain even when your eating healthy, is that correct?
You only gain when you are eating too much for your expended energy.
TDEE = total daily energy expenditure. This is the number of calories where you would not gain or lose any weight, also known as Maintenance Calories.
If you eat more than that, you will gain. If you eat less than that, you will lose. It doesn't matter if it is healthy food or not, if you are eating too much twinkies or lettuce, you will gain. It would just have to be a heck of a lot more lettuce since that is low calorie. The amount of energy your body needs depends on your own height, weight, age, metabolism, and amount of moving around you do.
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if you want to lower your metabolism and threaten your muscle mass and overall health and risk gaining EVERYTHING back and then some, follow this advice.
if you want to lose MORE FAT RATHER THAN MUSCLE MASS, increase your metabolism, and increase your health, then don't.
the choice is yours.0 -
I don't even know why I bother to read these anymore. #allhopeislost0
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Iv also read that once your body reaches a certain weight, it can gain even when your eating healthy, is that correct?
You only gain when you are eating too much for your expended energy.
TDEE = total daily energy expenditure. This is the number of calories where you would not gain or lose any weight, also known as Maintenance Calories.
If you eat more than that, you will gain. If you eat less than that, you will lose. It doesn't matter if it is healthy food or not, if you are eating too much twinkies or lettuce, you will gain. It would just have to be a heck of a lot more lettuce since that is low calorie. The amount of energy your body needs depends on your own height, weight, age, metabolism, and amount of moving around you do.
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if you want to lower your metabolism and threaten your muscle mass and overall health and risk gaining EVERYTHING back and then some, follow this advice.
if you want to lose MORE FAT RATHER THAN MUSCLE MASS, increase your metabolism, and increase your health, then don't.
the choice is yours.
Please tell me what was not correct with the post you are quoting. I'm pretty certain that the phrase "it doesn't matter if it's healthy or not" wasn't to say that you should eat junk food, it was to say that junk food or not, you are still subject to energy balance.0 -
Calorie counting gives an incomplete picture. While it is a good guideline, you really also need to control your insulin levels with the carbs that you eat.
Protein is also insulinogenic.
weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319I recommend learning about the Glycemic Index of the foods you eat. This will help you determine which fruits and veg are more likely to help you loose weight. Here is how it works. If you eat carbs (fruits, veg, sugars, breads ,etc) with a high glycemic index, your blood sugar will rapidly rise. Believe it or not, too much glucose (sugar) in the blood can be toxic so the body releases insulin which is a hormone that tells your body to clear the excess sugar from the blood and store it in your fat cells. Some fruits are worse than others. For instance, strawberries and peaches will cause a less dramatic effect in raising blood sugar than say, bananas or mangos.
I would very much recommend you read the above link. Also check this out: http://alanaragon.com/glycemic-index
The glycemic index can be ignored for the vast majority. The glycemic index is also quite inaccurate if you're not eating those foods in isolation as fat content blunts glycemic response.0 -
Iv also read that once your body reaches a certain weight, it can gain even when your eating healthy, is that correct?
You only gain when you are eating too much for your expended energy.
TDEE = total daily energy expenditure. This is the number of calories where you would not gain or lose any weight, also known as Maintenance Calories.
If you eat more than that, you will gain. If you eat less than that, you will lose. It doesn't matter if it is healthy food or not, if you are eating too much twinkies or lettuce, you will gain. It would just have to be a heck of a lot more lettuce since that is low calorie. The amount of energy your body needs depends on your own height, weight, age, metabolism, and amount of moving around you do.
^
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if you want to lower your metabolism and threaten your muscle mass and overall health and risk gaining EVERYTHING back and then some, follow this advice.
if you want to lose MORE FAT RATHER THAN MUSCLE MASS, increase your metabolism, and increase your health, then don't.
the choice is yours.
Please tell me what was not correct with the post you are quoting. I'm pretty certain that the phrase "it doesn't matter if it's healthy or not" wasn't to say that you should eat junk food, it was to say that junk food or not, you are still subject to energy balance.
i've seen it on here a million times.. the whole "you can eat whatever the hell you want, as long as you are under your TDEE, you will lose weight."
i effing hate reading that.0 -
Acg wrote a nice post here as well:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/532251-let-s-talk-about-the-gi-index0 -
Iv also read that once your body reaches a certain weight, it can gain even when your eating healthy, is that correct?
You only gain when you are eating too much for your expended energy.
TDEE = total daily energy expenditure. This is the number of calories where you would not gain or lose any weight, also known as Maintenance Calories.
If you eat more than that, you will gain. If you eat less than that, you will lose. It doesn't matter if it is healthy food or not, if you are eating too much twinkies or lettuce, you will gain. It would just have to be a heck of a lot more lettuce since that is low calorie. The amount of energy your body needs depends on your own height, weight, age, metabolism, and amount of moving around you do.
^
|
|
if you want to lower your metabolism and threaten your muscle mass and overall health and risk gaining EVERYTHING back and then some, follow this advice.
if you want to lose MORE FAT RATHER THAN MUSCLE MASS, increase your metabolism, and increase your health, then don't.
the choice is yours.
Please tell me what was not correct with the post you are quoting. I'm pretty certain that the phrase "it doesn't matter if it's healthy or not" wasn't to say that you should eat junk food, it was to say that junk food or not, you are still subject to energy balance.
i've seen it on here a million times.. the whole "you can eat whatever the hell you want, as long as you are under your TDEE, you will lose weight."
i effing hate reading that.
It's not ideal for health but if you're in an energy deficit you will lose weight. It's a true statement, unless you're a wizard. I think often times when it's stated as such it's to clarify the mechanics of weight loss and not to suggest that people disregard common sense with food selection.0 -
As noted already, if you consume more calories than you burn, you will probably gain weight. Are you exercising at all? Fruit is great, but high in sugars, which in turn means high in carbs. A low-to-no-carb diet actually restricts fruits, and also many veggies. However, this is not an eating lifestyle you should ever do, unless it is for a very short period of time.
If you were surprised at your sugar consumption, then you really want to make sure you are tracking that data on MFP. You just customize the view. For example, the things I care about right now are sugars, sodium, protein, fat, and fiber. So I make sure these appear on my Food Diary. Make sure you are setting reasonable weight loss goals in your profile and then make sure you stay in your calorie range and you should be able to maintain or lose weight in a healthy way.0 -
Iv also read that once your body reaches a certain weight, it can gain even when your eating healthy, is that correct?
You only gain when you are eating too much for your expended energy.
TDEE = total daily energy expenditure. This is the number of calories where you would not gain or lose any weight, also known as Maintenance Calories.
If you eat more than that, you will gain. If you eat less than that, you will lose. It doesn't matter if it is healthy food or not, if you are eating too much twinkies or lettuce, you will gain. It would just have to be a heck of a lot more lettuce since that is low calorie. The amount of energy your body needs depends on your own height, weight, age, metabolism, and amount of moving around you do.
^
|
|
if you want to lower your metabolism and threaten your muscle mass and overall health and risk gaining EVERYTHING back and then some, follow this advice.
if you want to lose MORE FAT RATHER THAN MUSCLE MASS, increase your metabolism, and increase your health, then don't.
the choice is yours.
Please tell me what was not correct with the post you are quoting. I'm pretty certain that the phrase "it doesn't matter if it's healthy or not" wasn't to say that you should eat junk food, it was to say that junk food or not, you are still subject to energy balance.
i've seen it on here a million times.. the whole "you can eat whatever the hell you want, as long as you are under your TDEE, you will lose weight."
i effing hate reading that.
It's not ideal for health but if you're in an energy deficit you will lose weight. It's a true statement, unless you're a wizard. I think often times when it's stated as such it's to clarify the mechanics of weight loss and not to suggest that people disregard common sense with food selection.
yes, the mechanics of weight loss are simple. but what kind of weight you're losing, and your chances of putting weight back on is GREATLY affected by where those calories comes from.0 -
i've seen it on here a million times.. the whole "you can eat whatever the hell you want, as long as you are under your TDEE, you will lose weight."
i effing hate reading that.
Well, I eat pizza and ice cream and chocolate and sausage and white bread and potatoes and rice. Not every day, but on a consistent basis. I have cream and sugar in coffee every day. I am eating under TDEE and I am losing weight. Could I lose weight faster if I ate only very healthy stuff? Maybe, but I'm not giving up things I love to eat.0 -
Iv also read that once your body reaches a certain weight, it can gain even when your eating healthy, is that correct?
You only gain when you are eating too much for your expended energy.
TDEE = total daily energy expenditure. This is the number of calories where you would not gain or lose any weight, also known as Maintenance Calories.
If you eat more than that, you will gain. If you eat less than that, you will lose. It doesn't matter if it is healthy food or not, if you are eating too much twinkies or lettuce, you will gain. It would just have to be a heck of a lot more lettuce since that is low calorie. The amount of energy your body needs depends on your own height, weight, age, metabolism, and amount of moving around you do.
^
|
|
if you want to lower your metabolism and threaten your muscle mass and overall health and risk gaining EVERYTHING back and then some, follow this advice.
if you want to lose MORE FAT RATHER THAN MUSCLE MASS, increase your metabolism, and increase your health, then don't.
the choice is yours.
Please tell me what was not correct with the post you are quoting. I'm pretty certain that the phrase "it doesn't matter if it's healthy or not" wasn't to say that you should eat junk food, it was to say that junk food or not, you are still subject to energy balance.
i've seen it on here a million times.. the whole "you can eat whatever the hell you want, as long as you are under your TDEE, you will lose weight."
i effing hate reading that.
It's not ideal for health but if you're in an energy deficit you will lose weight. It's a true statement, unless you're a wizard. I think often times when it's stated as such it's to clarify the mechanics of weight loss and not to suggest that people disregard common sense with food selection.
yes, the mechanics of weight loss are simple. but what kind of weight you're losing, and your chances of putting weight back on is GREATLY affected by where those calories comes from.
Yes. Macronutrients effect body composition. Micros effect health. And one can pay attention to those, and still eat ice cream and pizza and cake as a part of what is an overall nutrient sufficient, hypocaloric diet, and make great strides in both weight and body composition.
If anything I would argue that in some (certainly not all) cases, restrictive food selection causes adherence issues.0 -
I've sure others have said this but...carbs, fats, sugars, etc. are all important to our bodies. It's just the amount and type of them that we eat that can make us be unhealthy. If vegetables have carbs, they are good carbs that your body needs to survive and function properly. So enjoy!
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But I'm eating 1200 or less calories a day, should I cut down more? X0
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ThisWhat Sidesteel said.
Eat whatever you want. Try to make good choices 80% of the time. Indulge every now and then. Exercise if you want to. Stay under your calorie goal (and eat back your exercise cals). Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.
Agreed. I don't always eat back my exercise calories, but one days when I'm feeling especially hungry or there is a lot of food available, I do. And I'm still losing weight and getting healthier. I eat carbs and fats - I've just cut back.0 -
But I'm eating 1200 or less calories a day, should I cut down more? X
No. From your profile pic you look to already be relatively slim. Your body does not need less but maybe more!0 -
But I'm eating 1200 or less calories a day, should I cut down more? X
You should probably eat more. But that is a whole other argument.0 -
Iv also read that once your body reaches a certain weight, it can gain even when your eating healthy, is that correct?
You only gain when you are eating too much for your expended energy.
TDEE = total daily energy expenditure. This is the number of calories where you would not gain or lose any weight, also known as Maintenance Calories.
If you eat more than that, you will gain. If you eat less than that, you will lose. It doesn't matter if it is healthy food or not, if you are eating too much twinkies or lettuce, you will gain. It would just have to be a heck of a lot more lettuce since that is low calorie. The amount of energy your body needs depends on your own height, weight, age, metabolism, and amount of moving around you do.
^
|
|
if you want to lower your metabolism and threaten your muscle mass and overall health and risk gaining EVERYTHING back and then some, follow this advice.
if you want to lose MORE FAT RATHER THAN MUSCLE MASS, increase your metabolism, and increase your health, then don't.
the choice is yours.
Please tell me what was not correct with the post you are quoting. I'm pretty certain that the phrase "it doesn't matter if it's healthy or not" wasn't to say that you should eat junk food, it was to say that junk food or not, you are still subject to energy balance.
i've seen it on here a million times.. the whole "you can eat whatever the hell you want, as long as you are under your TDEE, you will lose weight."
i effing hate reading that.
It's not ideal for health but if you're in an energy deficit you will lose weight. It's a true statement, unless you're a wizard. I think often times when it's stated as such it's to clarify the mechanics of weight loss and not to suggest that people disregard common sense with food selection.
yes, the mechanics of weight loss are simple. but what kind of weight you're losing, and your chances of putting weight back on is GREATLY affected by where those calories comes from.
Yes. Macronutrients effect body composition. Micros effect health. And one can pay attention to those, and still eat ice cream and pizza and cake as a part of what is an overall nutrient sufficient, hypocaloric diet, and make great strides in both weight and body composition.
If anything I would argue that in some (certainly not all) cases, restrictive food selection causes adherence issues.
i guess it all depends on how big a lifestyle change you're needing/wanting to make.
you can constistently make good food choices and hit your macros and micros while giving yourself the occasional treat/splurge.
never did i say you need to give up everything you love for the rest of your life. but to tell a girl who's obviously not needing to lose a large amount of weight that she can eat whatever she wants as long as she is under her TDEE is irresponsible. to tell anyone that, for that matter, is irresponsible.0 -
never did i say you need to give up everything you love for the rest of your life. but to tell a girl who's obviously not needing to lose a large amount of weight that she can eat whatever she wants as long as she is under her TDEE is irresponsible. to tell anyone that, for that matter, is irresponsible.
Why? I am doing it. There is nothing at all irresponsible in it. Am I eating healthier some of the time? Yeah. It is common sense that veggies are better for you than twinkies. Sometimes I want veggies and sometimes I want twinkies. I was discussing the concept in general, not saying anyone should eat twinkies all the time and only twinkies.0 -
Please look up simple carbs vs complex carbs because this makes my head hurt. Not all carbs are evil.....
Anyways, if you really wanna get picky. Fiber. Important unless you want to get constipated. And also a carb! Please don't cut out carbs completely.....educate yourself more on them.
here's a start from a reputable source --
http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/what-can-i-eat/carbohydrates.html0 -
-Sugars from fruit is okay, unless you are a diabetic.
-Carbs from veggies is okay, Carbs are not evil.
-Fat - your body needs healthy fats, fats are not all evil.
This ^^^ Except, I'm not sure sugar from fruit is a problem even if you are diabetic unless you are eating a lot of fruit and nothing with it.0
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