Heavy drinkers outlive nondrinkers

tigerblood78
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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2017200,00.html


One of the most contentious issues in the vast literature about alcohol consumption has been the consistent finding that those who don't drink tend to die sooner than those who do. The standard Alcoholics Anonymous explanation for this finding is that many of those who show up as abstainers in such research are actually former hard-core drunks who had already incurred health problems associated with drinking.

But a new paper in the journal Alcoholism: Clinical and Experimental Research suggests that — for reasons that aren't entirely clear — abstaining from alcohol does tend to increase one's risk of dying, even when you exclude former problem drinkers. The most shocking part? Abstainers' mortality rates are higher than those of heavy drinkers


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  • Windy_
    Windy_ Posts: 1,012 Member
    I bet this research was funded by Budweiser.
  • bionicrooster
    bionicrooster Posts: 353 Member
    I don't care who funds it I like it :-)
  • Windy_
    Windy_ Posts: 1,012 Member
    I don't care who funds it I like it :-)

    You would.
  • margojr4
    margojr4 Posts: 259 Member
    :drinker:
  • TylerJ76
    TylerJ76 Posts: 4,375 Member
    :yawn:
  • ♥Faerie♥
    ♥Faerie♥ Posts: 14,053 Member
    Fae's live forever......
  • PhilyPhresh
    PhilyPhresh Posts: 600 Member
    After last night, I must have added years to my life...
  • n0ob
    n0ob Posts: 2,390 Member
    2 drinks a day has a good list of health of benefits.

    water is wet...
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    I would bet on stress being a lead cause. Stress is a killer. Alcohol relieves stress.
  • Kat5343
    Kat5343 Posts: 451 Member
    I don't care who funds it I like it :-)




    Sooooo this!!!!! :drinker:
  • barbie_g1rl
    barbie_g1rl Posts: 43
    haha LOVE this :)
  • katekross
    katekross Posts: 463 Member
    Heavy drinking in college put my in the pre-diabetic catergory...
  • dayone987
    dayone987 Posts: 645 Member
    I'm gonna live forever

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2017200,00.html


    .

    But a new paper in the journal Alcoholism: Clinical and Experimental Research suggests that — for reasons that aren't entirely clear — abstaining from alcohol does tend to increase one's risk of dying, even when you exclude former problem drinkers. The most shocking part? Abstainers' mortality rates are higher than those of heavy drinkers



    Everyone's risk of dying is the same. Pretty much we all die once. (execet for those who are resucitated)
  • Brunner26_2
    Brunner26_2 Posts: 1,152
    One hypothesis that I've heard is that drinkers may have stronger social ties than non-drinkers. It's been knows for a while (from somewhere, too lazy to get a source) that having a strong social circle increases lifespan. Did this study compare the lifespans of low, moderate, and heavy drinkers?
  • serenapitala
    serenapitala Posts: 441 Member
    I don't care who funds it I like it :-)




    Sooooo this!!!!! :drinker:

    Ditto :drinker: Cheers!!
  • shammxo
    shammxo Posts: 1,432 Member
    Yeah. And pregnant women can drink safely in moderation.

    Science!
  • madworld1
    madworld1 Posts: 524
    I thought it was 2 per day. Something like that. Anymore than that and you risk damage to organs. Anyway, three of my family members died in their mid forties from heavy drinking.
  • Lrdoflamancha
    Lrdoflamancha Posts: 1,280 Member
    Heavy drinking in college put my in the pre-diabetic catergory...

    Heavy drinking... Put me in the Type 2 Diabetic category, and I fight it every single day. .
  • Wolfrikk
    Wolfrikk Posts: 3
    Alcohol tends to relax you so drinkers tend to have periods of less stress, then nondrinkers. also not sure if the article mentions that moderate drinkers live the longest, so heavy drinking isn't as healthy as drinking moderately. Sucks that you still have to watch those calories too....
  • allifantastical
    allifantastical Posts: 946 Member
    I'll drink to that.
  • Ge0rgiana
    Ge0rgiana Posts: 1,649 Member
    Fae's live forever......

    IDK why, but this made me giggle...

    ETA: My drunken ex is not going to make it much past his 60th birthday, I'm pretty sure. He's already probably a full-blown diabetic (diagnosed pre-diabetic years ago), and it looks like he may have cancer in his mouth. :drinker:
  • Farburnfred
    Farburnfred Posts: 333 Member
    I don't drink at all and have never had more than a glass of wine, it made me feel so weird and wobbly that although i drank small amounts for a bit I haven't now for years aside from the odd sip of champagne at a wedding.

    Its not for health reasons and i don't feel proud not to drink or anything, its a personal preference.

    You can all come to my funeral ;)
  • HappyNinjaStar
    HappyNinjaStar Posts: 353 Member
    Ok statistics geeks out there, we have a correlation which does not imply causation.

    My theory is the stick up abstainers' *kitten* may be the death blow...

    either way, :drinker:
  • LiveLoveHunt
    LiveLoveHunt Posts: 43
    I have def lowered my intake of alcohol now that I am trying to lose weight. Those 800+ cal giant frozen margaritas are just not worth how much it takes to burn them off. BUT a glass of wine here and there or a light beer once in awhile is good for you.
    I didn't click on the link but just reading what you posted was enough to convince me to keep imbibing haha
  • iplayoutside19
    iplayoutside19 Posts: 2,304 Member
    Here's the reason why:

    http://www.livescience.com/7910-exercisers-drink-alcohol.html
  • laurenk182004
    laurenk182004 Posts: 1,882 Member
    That's a bull**** statement! My father died of alcoholism, so yeah, heavy drinkers do NOT outlive non drinkers
  • hellraisedfire
    hellraisedfire Posts: 403 Member
    my grandma has been drinking a glass of red wine every night for ages and ages... she just turned 90. :) and she only takes a vitamin a day!
  • fleur_de_lis19
    fleur_de_lis19 Posts: 926 Member
    If you drink away your stress and sorrows, they don't affect your health, right? Seems legit :)
  • eikito
    eikito Posts: 114 Member
    My parents were the same age, OK my dad was a couple of months older. They were together for 30+ years, so for that long period of time they had the same lifestyle, ate the same things are had the same amount of exercise BUT my dad was an alcoholic and my mum doesn't drink at all. In his late thirties he almost died of something related to his drinking and swore not to drink ever again.... yeah, right.... he died of liver Cirrhosis that he brought on to himself with his drinking way before he hit 60 because he kept at it. My mum is now 70 years old with no health problems, she just gets a bit tired, but at that age I guess it's normal.
    Result: neither my sister or me consume alcohol.
  • kmccormick42
    kmccormick42 Posts: 78 Member
    I don't know about the content of the article, but I do know that I have been personally related to several alcoholics (including my father who was a wonderful man but was an alcoholic) and all died in their 40's. That's all I need to know to convince me of moderation.

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