Is anyone else doing the Atkins diet?

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  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    It would be better to just adjust your macros to 30% protein and let the other numbers work themselves out. It is more about high protein/low fat than low carbs that really helps you lose the weight. Protein keeps you full and keeps your metabolism going. Your carbs should come from high fiber sources. When you look at it that way it is more about heathy eating than following a specific Meat diet.

    I think it's the fat that satiates. Low fat = no bueno.

    Well you'd think wrong, it's the protein

    I would not be wrong, it's both protein and fat.

    A satiety index of common foods.

    Protein, fibre, and water contents of the test foods correlated positively with SI scores (r = 0.37, P < 0.05, n = 38; r = 0.46, P < 0.01; and r = 0.64, P < 0.001; respectively) whereas fat content was negatively associated (r = -0.43, P < 0.01).

    http://www.ucsyd.dk/fileadmin/user_upload/om_uc_syddanmark/dokumenter/marianne_markers_kursus_NRO/110228_Holt et al Satiety index.pdf
  • Built_Strong
    Built_Strong Posts: 114 Member
    The atkins plan is basically a crash diet. Crash dieting will only give you temporary results as soon as you're off the atkins plan, you'll be packing the weight back on.

    It's not a crash diet.

    That's the mistake a lot of people make with Atkins - they only use it short term. Before starting that plan one should really read the book from cover to cover to understand that it isnt a short term fix. Dr. Atkins never intended this to be a plan you follow for 2 weeks, a month, a year and then go back to eating a high carb diet. It's also not intended to eliminate all carbs. It's intent is to rid the cravings for [what I call] junky carbs and eventually eat carbs like veggies, fruits, whole grains. One can successfully be on Atkins for life. I know many people who have adapted his lifestyle for years and havent regained any weight they lost. I've been successful on low carb for the past 2 years as well and my current diet is actually much more restrictive than Atkins.
  • derekj222
    derekj222 Posts: 370 Member
    Considering I'm on a diet and my last name is Atkins, I guess I am on the Atkins' diet. lol jk. Actually my diet is the complete opposite of the 'Atkins Diet'.

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  • amehrkens
    amehrkens Posts: 162 Member
    Day 3 of the Atkins and I have not yet felt hungry and I have tons of energy! I have read the book and it makes alot of sense. I am also not looking at this as a crash diet but a lifestyle change. As you read the book you will see that you can add crabs back in to your eating plan.
  • martinah4
    martinah4 Posts: 583 Member
    It would be better to just adjust your macros to 30% protein and let the other numbers work themselves out. It is more about high protein/low fat than low carbs that really helps you lose the weight. Protein keeps you full and keeps your metabolism going. Your carbs should come from high fiber sources. When you look at it that way it is more about heathy eating than following a specific Meat diet.

    I think it's the fat that satiates. Low fat = no bueno.

    Well you'd think wrong, it's the protein

    I would not be wrong, it's both protein and fat.

    A satiety index of common foods.

    Protein, fibre, and water contents of the test foods correlated positively with SI scores (r = 0.37, P < 0.05, n = 38; r = 0.46, P < 0.01; and r = 0.64, P < 0.001; respectively) whereas fat content was negatively associated (r = -0.43, P < 0.01).

    http://www.ucsyd.dk/fileadmin/user_upload/om_uc_syddanmark/dokumenter/marianne_markers_kursus_NRO/110228_Holt et al Satiety index.pdf

    Cool. I stand corrected. #keepsanopenmind
  • martinah4
    martinah4 Posts: 583 Member
    Day 3 of the Atkins and I have not yet felt hungry and I have tons of energy! I have read the book and it makes alot of sense. I am also not looking at this as a crash diet but a lifestyle change. As you read the book you will see that you can add crabs back in to your eating plan.

    Good job!
    Here's what I just had for lunch: a grilled chicken breast on a bed of lettuce, broccoli and a sprinkling of cheese, topped with fresh avocado and ranch dressing. nom nom nom!
    5 net carbs.
  • martinah4
    martinah4 Posts: 583 Member
    Day 3 of the Atkins and I have not yet felt hungry and I have tons of energy! I have read the book and it makes alot of sense. I am also not looking at this as a crash diet but a lifestyle change. As you read the book you will see that you can add crabs back in to your eating plan.

    Good job! (I can pass on the crabs, though--lol)
    Here's what I just had for lunch: a grilled chicken breast on a bed of lettuce, broccoli and a sprinkling of cheese, topped with fresh avocado and ranch dressing. nom nom nom!
    5 net carbs.
  • soldier4242
    soldier4242 Posts: 1,368 Member
    I am skeptical of any diet plan that says you can eat as much as you want so long as you don't eat X. It does not matter what X is I just don't see it being true. If you eat 3000 calories of Beef and you only burned 2200 calories in a day I think you are going to gain weight regardless of where or not you have completely avoided carbs and sugar.

    Who is eating 3000 calories of beef? That's a bit extreme.

    I was just throwing out some numbers to demonstrate a point. The way the Atkins diet was advertised he was claiming that if you don't have any carbs and sugars you can eat anything you want and you will still lose weight. So while nobody is actually going to eat a diet of pure beef Atkins was claiming that hypothetically if beef was the only thing you ate you would still lose weight even if you ignore calories. To me that screams fad diet.
  • lyfwithluv
    lyfwithluv Posts: 5 Member
    Because bad carbs and sugar are so healthy....not so, even in moderation. This is to the uneducated...I literally worked out 2 hours a day and stayed at my appropriate caloric intake for 6 months and lost ten pounds. I was 100 lbs. over weight, so 10 lbs. was absolutely rediculous! I quit eating sugar and bad carbs with Atkins and am down 40 lbs. Whoever downs Atkins is highly uneducated about health. Doctors have now found cancer cells thrive off of glucose, which is carbs and sugar, because cancer cells cannot live without glucose. So guess what doctors are prescribing to cancer patients along with their treatment? You guessed it, a low carb no sugar diet. It's sad to see people here push the idea that all they need is to restrict calories to lose no matter what junk they fill their bodies with. Sugar and bad carbs are bad no matter how you limit it. It's poison for the body and if we choose not to eat poison then let us be....all of you who hate the idea keep on with poisoning your body add I will keep on with keep,ing it out of mine.
  • martinah4
    martinah4 Posts: 583 Member
    Because bad carbs and sugar are so healthy....not so, even in moderation. This is to the uneducated...I literally worked out 2 hours a day and stayed at my appropriate caloric intake for 6 months and lost ten pounds. I was 100 lbs. over weight, so 10 lbs. was absolutely rediculous! I quit eating sugar and bad carbs with Atkins and am down 40 lbs. Whoever downs Atkins is highly uneducated about health. Doctors have now found cancer cells thrive off of glucose, which is carbs and sugar, because cancer cells cannot live without glucose. So guess what doctors are prescribing to cancer patients along with their treatment? You guessed it, a low carb no sugar diet. It's sad to see people here push the idea that all they need is to restrict calories to lose no matter what junk they fill their bodies with. Sugar and bad carbs are bad no matter how you limit it. It's poison for the body and if we choose not to eat poison then let us be....all of you who hate the idea keep on with poisoning your body add I will keep on with keep,ing it out of mine.

    There are so many other factors in play besides calories in/calories out. And people are uneducated about the Atkins diet. It is not "no carb, all protein". It is all about getting rid of sugars and unhealthy carbs that effect how your body converts food into fat or energy. I get tired of defending it. I always say, "Do what works for you." This way of eating works with me and millions of other people. You go do your thing, I'll go and do what I know is working for me.
  • judychicken
    judychicken Posts: 937 Member
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  • MarissaCB39
    MarissaCB39 Posts: 115 Member
    I prefer Atkins over counting calories. I find with Atkins you stay full and satisfied and you still lose weight. I've been on Atkins since June of last year and lost a total of 20 pounds. If you're ready for a LONG commitment then I recommend starting
  • My husband and I started Atkins before the holidays. although we ate some carbs (very little, actually) during the holidays, I did not gain weight. We are back on our full time schedule now, and walking 30-45 minutes a day, either outside or inside when it is snowing. I'm looking for tips also.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Because bad carbs and sugar are so healthy....not so, even in moderation. This is to the uneducated...I literally worked out 2 hours a day and stayed at my appropriate caloric intake for 6 months and lost ten pounds. I was 100 lbs. over weight, so 10 lbs. was absolutely rediculous! I quit eating sugar and bad carbs with Atkins and am down 40 lbs. Whoever downs Atkins is highly uneducated about health. Doctors have now found cancer cells thrive off of glucose, which is carbs and sugar, because cancer cells cannot live without glucose. So guess what doctors are prescribing to cancer patients along with their treatment? You guessed it, a low carb no sugar diet. It's sad to see people here push the idea that all they need is to restrict calories to lose no matter what junk they fill their bodies with. Sugar and bad carbs are bad no matter how you limit it. It's poison for the body and if we choose not to eat poison then let us be....all of you who hate the idea keep on with poisoning your body add I will keep on with keep,ing it out of mine.

    What makes a bad carb bad?
  • The New Atkins diet is really good. It is lean protein with lots of vegetables.

    I agree. I wish people would stop thinking that all we eat is bacon, topped with mayonnaise and dipped in lard. Just not true! I've never felt better eating this way!
  • Giggle. My husband and I are still at the bacon dipped in mayonnaise stage! We are feeling full and learning not to eat bread. That is a biggie. We grew up on sandwiches. But we are getting older, retired. I will get the book and read it! Thanks for all the notes. I still think this is the eating plan for us.
  • verdemujer
    verdemujer Posts: 1,397 Member
    My Doctor has me reading "Why we are Fat" first and then he wants me to do the New Atkins. He says my blood work will come back 100% improved. And more importantly to me, I may actually get down below this wall I have hit for the last few years. My doctor believes that our extreme low fat diet is actually not good for us. I do believe we need some fat and I know we eat way to many simple carbs (bread, cereals, etc.). This diet is probably similar to Palelo too. Mostly, I think its most important about knowing the balance you need for your life.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    My Doctor has me reading "Why we are Fat" first and then he wants me to do the New Atkins. He says my blood work will come back 100% improved. And more importantly to me, I may actually get down below this wall I have hit for the last few years. My doctor believes that our extreme low fat diet is actually not good for us. I do believe we need some fat and I know we eat way to many simple carbs (bread, cereals, etc.). This diet is probably similar to Palelo too. Mostly, I think its most important about knowing the balance you need for your life.

    I'd seriously consider a new doctor if he's having you read Taubes' book that has been debunked many times over
  • martinah4
    martinah4 Posts: 583 Member
    Giggle. My husband and I are still at the bacon dipped in mayonnaise stage! We are feeling full and learning not to eat bread. That is a biggie. We grew up on sandwiches. But we are getting older, retired. I will get the book and read it! Thanks for all the notes. I still think this is the eating plan for us.

    There are forums on here with all sorts of recipes and advice. I think one of the reasons that people find it so hard to maintain on Atkins, is that they get bored with the food choices. I'm fortunate to have a husband who loves to cook, and likes to experiment with new recipes, so I have a huge variety of meals to choose from.

    Good luck to you and your husband!
  • martinah4
    martinah4 Posts: 583 Member
    My Doctor has me reading "Why we are Fat" first and then he wants me to do the New Atkins. He says my blood work will come back 100% improved. And more importantly to me, I may actually get down below this wall I have hit for the last few years. My doctor believes that our extreme low fat diet is actually not good for us. I do believe we need some fat and I know we eat way to many simple carbs (bread, cereals, etc.). This diet is probably similar to Palelo too. Mostly, I think its most important about knowing the balance you need for your life.

    Good for you! I can't wait for you share your results!
  • funkycamper
    funkycamper Posts: 998 Member
    Why do people gain weight when they quit doing the Atkin's plan? Simple. They didn't actually follow the plan correctly. It is not and was never intended to be a crash diet or a no-carb plan. And it's the media that have claimed you can eat 3000 calories of bacon and not gain weight, not Atkins.

    Those who are so anti-Atkins (or any other low-carb plan) are either uninformed of how they really work or are just trolls. I believe there are some of each in this thread.

    Atkins begins with 2 weeks at very low carbs, I don't recall off-hand if it's 20 or 30 per day. This was never intended to be a long-term way of eating. Yet, I would bet my last dollar that the majority of those who are anti-low carb believe this is how Atkins intended you to eat long-term. Poppycock!

    After the first 2 weeks, you are supposed to go into the OWL phase (ongoing weight loss). This means that you add 5 carbs/day to your food plan each week. So, first week of OWL, you might eat 35 carbs/day, go up to 40 carbs/day in week 2, to 45 carbs/day in week 3, and so on. You keep adding carbs back in until you get to the stage where you are losing about 1# per week while feeling satiated and not experiencing cravings for carb-heavy foods. If you go into a long-term weight loss plateau where you are no longer losing and/or you start getting cravings, you drop back 5 grams/day for a week, then again if needed, until you hit your sweet spot where you can lose without cravings while feeling satiated. When adding carbs, you should start with non-starchy vegetables and berries. If you find that you can eat a significant amount of non-starchy vegetables berries without stopping your loss or getting cravings, you can add in more fruit and/or small servings of starchier items. This is the phase where you find out what your particular limit is. For example, some folks can add in some bread and be fine, some can't. Some can only go up to about 50 grams/carb daily and some can go up to 100 grams/carb/day, some even more.

    So, if OWL is done successfully, you find the right level for you and stay there throughout your entire weight loss. Again, the amount of carbs might vary greatly from person-to-person and be as low as about 50 grams/day to 150 grams/day. No, none of us are special snowflakes but we all have variance in our body's response to carbs based on our many factors.

    Exercise: Atkins encourages exercise and, yes, it is very likely that someone doing a lot of it, especially long cardio if they're, for example, training for a marathon, will need more carbs.

    Last summer, I was training for a 200-mile bike ride event (2 days, 100 miles each). During that time, on long ride training days only, I drastically increased my carbs or I would bonk. But I couldn't eat that high of carb on days without long rides or I would get carb lethargy (where eating too many carbs would raise my blood sugars too much causing me to want to just sleep).

    So, yeah, carb amounts need to be adjusted for our individual variances in our response to carbs plus our exercise load.

    Once you have reached your goal weight comes the final Atkins phase of maintenance. This means that you increase your carb intake until you find the level where you can eat it on a daily basis without gaining. Again, you should add 5 grams/carb/day and stay at that level for a week, then jump another 5, and so on in order to find that level.

    Again, maintenance levels will vary. Some might need to stay as low as 75 grams/day and some might be able to go over 200 grams/day.

    I really don't see much difference between this and the eating plans that some tout who are also anti-carb. I mean, many here at MFP say that you should eat about 1 gram protein per pound of body weight (or lean body weight) and about 0.5 gram fat per pounds of body weight (or lean body weight). I hear both regard to whether it's body weight or lean body so....well, whatever. And then they say to fill up the rest of your calories left with carbs. After the induction stage, that basically what Atkins is telling you to do as well. Sure, there's a tad bit of difference but the fundamentals are similar. Then once you get to goal, you up your calories to maintenance and fill it in with carbs. Again, just like Atkins.

    I find it humorous that some of those who are most opposed to Atkins tout the eating style in the above paragraph which really isn't all that different from Atkins. The semantics are more different than the actual eating plans.
  • Laner25
    Laner25 Posts: 13 Member
    Hi,

    I did Atkins and lost about 8 lbs. Had much better luck with the Dukan diet. Lost 20 lbs in 2 months and kept it off, without keeping the restricted diet, after my weight loss.
  • IrishChik
    IrishChik Posts: 465 Member
    Hi,
    It is not recommended, as you will gain it all back when you quit. Heart Drs. do not like it at all, too much cheese,high cholesterol,bacon and other meats.
    Good Luck
    Sallyafe1

    Funny since my Doctors (yes, more than one) recommended it due to a medical condition that makes me insulin resistant and makes it harder for me to lose weight.

    A lot of people think about the old 1972 Atkins plan when they think about it.

    While their are those that follow that plan, as well as that late 90s plan, their are a LOT of people that are following New Atkins New You from 2010 plan.

    Believe it or not, I don't eat a lot of red meat and I am not eating bacon and other fatty foods every day. I am using olive oil, I eat olives and tons of greens. I dont miss my fruit because I get my nutrition from vegetables.

    You only cut fruits for the first 14 days. There is a reason for that. After that, you can introduce it back.

    Atkins has been the only plan that has helped me with whats going on with my body.

    It does work if you stick with it. Those that are "trying again" are people who gave up for one reason or another.
  • lyfwithluv
    lyfwithluv Posts: 5 Member
    Because bad carbs and sugar are so healthy....not so, even in moderation. This is to the uneducated...I literally worked out 2 hours a day and stayed at my appropriate caloric intake for 6 months and lost ten pounds. I was 100 lbs. over weight, so 10 lbs. was absolutely rediculous! I quit eating sugar and bad carbs with Atkins and am down 40 lbs. Whoever downs Atkins is highly uneducated about health. Doctors have now found cancer cells thrive off of glucose, which is carbs and sugar, because cancer cells cannot live without glucose. So guess what doctors are prescribing to cancer patients along with their treatment? You guessed it, a low carb no sugar diet. It's sad to see people here push the idea that all they need is to restrict calories to lose no matter what junk they fill their bodies with. Sugar and bad carbs are bad no matter how you limit it. It's poison for the body and if we choose not to eat poison then let us be....all of you who hate the idea keep on with poisoning your body add I will keep on with keep,ing it out of mine.

    What makes a bad carb bad?

    There are highly processed carbs and carbs that come from whole fruits, veggies, nuts, seeds, beans, etc. I will not get into this with people here because you are not my doctor nor will you ever convince me that a carb is a carb, a fat is a fat, or how a calorie is a calorie. I have never felt better in my life and I am no longer pre diabetic either. If you are here to knock a whole food organic lifestyle because you believe garbage and chemicals posing as food in moderation is okay go elsewhere...I feel amazing and my tests from the doctor prove what I'm going is good for me.
  • kckrahn
    kckrahn Posts: 52 Member
    I was going to ask the same thing about the need to redo again after some years. If it is as effective as it is, then why would there be a need to go back to it? Is it safe to say it's a band aid solution? I think I need more of an approach that I can handle from today and on.

    I have always said that having been blessed to have been born into a Latino family, there's no way in heck I'd skip out on our wonderful (yes, carb-rich foods) for some months, let alone a lifetime! I can do it for 2 weeks, tops!, to lose some weight quick, but forever.... NADA!

    And, this is the kind of attitude that gives Atkins a bad name. Read the book! The first two weeks are the most restrictive, then you can slowly add your carbs back in. SLOWLY so you can see what foods trigger weight loss stalls or weight gain.

    If you add healthy carbs back you won't gain the weight back. Like any diet if you binge after,you are going to get fat again. People need to read the book instead of making these ignorant comments.
  • elisa123gal
    elisa123gal Posts: 4,324 Member
    the snack bars are great...the chocolate one i love. I did low carb for five weeks..didn't lose a thing..it didn't work for me. but those snack bars are tasty and a good product.
  • kckrahn
    kckrahn Posts: 52 Member
    Hi,
    It is not recommended, as you will gain it all back when you quit. Heart Drs. do not like it at all, too much cheese,high cholesterol,bacon and other meats.
    Good Luck
    Sallyafe1

    This isn't true. The new Atkins is all about veggies and protein. Please don't make comments like this without being fully educated on the subject.
  • kckrahn
    kckrahn Posts: 52 Member
    I am skeptical of any diet plan that says you can eat as much as you want so long as you don't eat X. It does not matter what X is I just don't see it being true. If you eat 3000 calories of Beef and you only burned 2200 calories in a day I think you are going to gain weight regardless of where or not you have completely avoided carbs and sugar.

    Hahaha. Actually on Atkins a woman is suppose to eat between 1500 and 1700 and a guy around 1900 and 2000. Read the book and get educated as this is 100 percent incorrect.
  • kckrahn
    kckrahn Posts: 52 Member
    i want to know how the atkins works like do we only eat meat and thats it or can we have fruits and veggies ?? :embarassed:

    It is about eating veggies, protein, healthy fat and Eliminating processed crap. You can read about it on the Atkins website.
  • GoddessG
    GoddessG Posts: 172 Member
    I did it about 30 years ago. Kept the weight off for 20 years - until a lifestyle change that brought bread/pasta etc back into my daily eating - and I quit smoking (which added 30 lbs each of the two times I quit).

    Now I'm back on LOW carb. It's not exactly Adkins because I don't eat vegetables or fruits. My goal is carbs under 10 a day. I have days that are under 5, but it takes the joy out of eating, so I'v given that up. I look forward to hearing the results of a blood test that I will have Monday morning. A comparison should be most interesting.

    I get excited when I see the purple on the keto-stix. It reminds me that those ketones will not be used for fuel and are discarded before they can be. That can only mean that my body has to find energy somewhere else - making more ketones that will be sent down the toilet.

    Atkins goes to more traditional eating beyond the induction phase. I prefer all eggs and meat plus a LITTLE cheese, though if I go out to dinner, I will add a salad with Blue Cheese dressing because it's lowest carb.

    One thing that helps that wasn't available when Adkins came out are delicious protein shakes. I prefer Nectar by Syntrax. My favorites are Chocolate Truffle and Strawberry Mousse. this gives 24 grams of protein with no carbs and only 100 calories. I had a hard time getting enough protein until I started using them.

    When I reached goal weight back then, I paid very close attention to my carb needs. I found that at 16, I lost weight. At 25, I gained it. So I set a goal of 20.