Marriage values in our society....
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My marriage is fine and is on our terms, and this is how I feel about judging other people's marriages and how they live:
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87% of internet statistics are made up on the internet.0
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I yearn for the good 'ol days when affairs didn't happen.
When unicorns flourished and Jesus rode Dinosaurs....
R u saying Dinosaurs don't exist? :sick:
WHAT????????????? theres no dinos???
I love dinosaurs.
Believe it or not there are those that think that the dinosaurs were a lie. That they are a government conspiracy. Kid you not. It amazes me too...
RAWR
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Personally, I think every marriage and situation is different. How 'bout I don't judge you; you don't judge me.
By the way, these are YOUR morals and values...probably based on your religious beliefs. Everyone has different belief systems. None of them are right or wrong. Just different.
Soooo glad I don't live in a society where the religious right wing conservatives think selling guns in Walmart is grand but having sex is a sin!0 -
87% of internet statistics are made up on the internet.
Wait, but I heard it on the internet and I read on the internet that they can't put anything on the internet that wasn't true.0 -
You're right; none of us have any values.
I, too, miss the old marriage values of society. When women were forced to marry the men who raped them. Or when women were considered property and nothing more. Or when women couldn't marry someone of a different race.
Yup. No values today. We've only gone downhill.
THEN LET'S BRING BACK THE GOOD OL' DAYS! YAH!!!! HERE'S TO BRINGIN' BACK GOOD TIMES! :drinker:
ETA: Please don't let my wife see this post.0 -
Personally, I think every marriage and situation is different. How 'bout I don't judge you; you don't judge me.
By the way, these are YOUR morals and values...probably based on your religious beliefs. Everyone has different belief systems. None of them are right or wrong. Just different.
Soooo glad I don't live in a society where the religious right wing conservatives think selling guns in Walmart is grand but having sex is a sin!
Agreed.0 -
Oh, and why is marriage "sacred"? It is only a contract really, and contracts are broken or dissolved all the time. Of course, I'm an atheist and don't place the same importance on the word "marriage" many religious people might.
Line up ladies, uberman is here to sweep you off your feet.0 -
....annnnd this hasn't been locked down yet?
EXCELLENT.0 -
Oh, and why is marriage "sacred"? It is only a contract really, and contracts are broken or dissolved all the time. Of course, I'm an atheist and don't place the same importance on the word "marriage" many religious people might.
I don't think you have to be "religious" to put value upon your marriage. Regardless of the actual contract, you look someone you love dead in the eye and you vow your love and faithfulness through sickness and health, rich or poor, etc. Why do I have to be religious to think that means something??
exactly!!! just because your "atheist" doesnt mean you can not value something like the love and faithfulness of your spouse0 -
87% of internet statistics are made up on the internet.
Wait, but I heard it on the internet and I read on the internet that they can't put anything on the internet that wasn't true.
Ahhhh ha ha ha ha....0 -
I am very disappointed in hearing some news today. Where has everyone's marriage values gone? I'm hearing waaay too much about people having affairs, or secretly meeting someone for "lunch" or "texting and/or talking on the phone" when your spouse is unaware. These are all considered Affairs....whether physical and/or emotional....they are still affairs. I know that if anything like this ever happened to me, I would TRY my best to work through it with my husband....I would....but knowing my personality, it would be the hardest thing I ever had to do in my life. I feel so BLESSED that I have a husband who has the same marriage values as mine but also dumbfounded and a little (i should say ALOT) disgusted at the things I have seen at the gym and also with the news I heard today. Shame on some people for not putting the importance of their marriage above any "lust" or attraction you may of felt.
This is nothing new today. This has gone on since marriage was started. Its human nature. It has always happened, and it will always happen. Its just life.0 -
THEN DONT GET MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Worry about your own marriage rather then judging everyone elses.0 -
Let me break it to you: It has always been that way, it is just much more easy to know about these things now. Study history, infidelity all over the place!
Truth haha0 -
I yearn for the good 'ol days when affairs didn't happen.
When unicorns flourished and Jesus rode Dinosaurs....
R u saying Dinosaurs don't exist? :sick:
WHAT????????????? theres no dinos???
I love dinosaurs.
Believe it or not there are those that think that the dinosaurs were a lie. That they are a government conspiracy. Kid you not. It amazes me too...
Because it was faked with the moon landing, the FBI had bought too much foam rubber and figured why not aliens, not realizing people would make mistakes on the plot and call them 'dinosaurs'.0 -
87% of internet statistics are made up on the internet.
Wait, but I heard it on the internet and I read on the internet that they can't put anything on the internet that wasn't true.
Ahhhh ha ha ha ha....
WHAT!!? i only believe it if i found it on the internet!! :laugh:0 -
Oh, and why is marriage "sacred"? It is only a contract really, and contracts are broken or dissolved all the time. Of course, I'm an atheist and don't place the same importance on the word "marriage" many religious people might.
I don't think you have to be "religious" to put value upon your marriage. Regardless of the actual contract, you look someone you love dead in the eye and you vow your love and faithfulness through sickness and health, rich or poor, etc. Why do I have to be religious to think that means something??
exactly!!! just because your "atheist" doesnt mean you can not value something like the love and faithfulness of your spouse
Right. Take away a deity and legal system and there are still TWO people who made a commitment.to each other. That's what marriage is. It should be a big deal they honor it. Human to Human. If you don't want to add in God & law...0 -
Oh, and why is marriage "sacred"? It is only a contract really, and contracts are broken or dissolved all the time. Of course, I'm an atheist and don't place the same importance on the word "marriage" many religious people might.
I don't think you have to be "religious" to put value upon your marriage. Regardless of the actual contract, you look someone you love dead in the eye and you vow your love and faithfulness through sickness and health, rich or poor, etc. Why do I have to be religious to think that means something??
exactly!!! just because your "atheist" doesnt mean you can not value something like the love and faithfulness of your spouse
I'm an atheist also. But, I am still an empathic, caring, moral person that does not want to harm anyone and I value my partnership with my husband and want to remain an intact family for my own enjoyment as well as for my children. And I am deeply happy in my marriage. However, my marriage is my concern. Other people's marriages are not my concern. They can have their own rules or their own problems. It's not my concern or my business. However, I would not choose to be a part of something that is harmful to others. I do not think it is right when people have affairs with people that are married (knowingly), so I would not choose to be friends with people that would behave that way. We just would not have anything in common if they felt that was appropriate behavior. Unless they are in an open marriage, then I am ok with that.0 -
Oh, and why is marriage "sacred"? It is only a contract really, and contracts are broken or dissolved all the time. Of course, I'm an atheist and don't place the same importance on the word "marriage" many religious people might.
I don't think you have to be "religious" to put value upon your marriage. Regardless of the actual contract, you look someone you love dead in the eye and you vow your love and faithfulness through sickness and health, rich or poor, etc. Why do I have to be religious to think that means something??
exactly!!! just because your "atheist" doesnt mean you can not value something like the love and faithfulness of your spouse
Precisely! I don't need to be threatened with hell to be a moral person.0 -
Personally, I think every marriage and situation is different. How 'bout I don't judge you; you don't judge me.
By the way, these are YOUR morals and values...probably based on your religious beliefs. Everyone has different belief systems. None of them are right or wrong. Just different.
Soooo glad I don't live in a society where the religious right wing conservatives think selling guns in Walmart is grand but having sex is a sin!
Lol , was all of this written by the same poster ?0 -
The responses to this thread already show the lack of values.
No, it's not her business, but apparently it's something she wished to talk about. Marriage is supposed to be sacred. And people are throwing it away like it means nothing. So I totally agree with this post. Is it my business whether someone else has an affair? No... but that doesn't take away from the fact that the world's population is lacking morals and values.
And why in the world do you bother commenting on such a post if you just want to say it's none of their business? It doesn't really make sense. If you don't want to discuss it, then find your way out.
Well said. I totally agree with you.0 -
Has there always been affairs? Yes there has, but people today just don't see marriage as sacred anymore. Most people nowadays get married for all the wrong reasons and then end up divorcing down the line. And celebrities, I am sorry to say it, have made marriage out to be a joke and so kids think of it as that, a joke.
Granted my husband and I have only been married for almost 2 years, but it wasn't a decision to jump into. We have been together for almost 5 years, and have an almost 1 year old, but we had been engaged for 2 years before we got married, and we went through the engaged couples stuff that the church makes you go through, but we look back on it and it makes us appreciate what we have and helped our lines of communication.0 -
Personally, I think every marriage and situation is different. How 'bout I don't judge you; you don't judge me.
By the way, these are YOUR morals and values...probably based on your religious beliefs. Everyone has different belief systems. None of them are right or wrong. Just different.
Soooo glad I don't live in a society where the religious right wing conservatives think selling guns in Walmart is grand but having sex is a sin!
Lol , was all of this written by the same poster ?
I know right? It was so bi-polar. 0 -
I think the whole concept of "societal values" is, and always has been kind of shaky. While there are shifts in majority and minority, there have always been different groups with different values. What I think makes for a great society is when all of those people are free to live according to their values, as long as their values don't involve force, coersion, (sp?) or oppression. Marriage, at the end of the day is really, only as sacred as the people in it decide it is. My wife and I are both very dedicated to our marriage, and we definite it by what would be considered biblical, Christian ideas. It fulfills us, and I'm very thankful for it and also for the fact that we've been successful at it so far. That's our journey. Other people are different, and I don't think it would be right to expect them to define marriage or even what it means to value a marriage by the same definition that I do. That's why I don't think the government should have squat to do with the legislation of marriage or marriage rights. People should be free to marry who they choose and to place whatever level of devotion they chose on that marriage...or non-marriage as it were. As long as we all remain free to think one another is crazy, and if only we could agree to treat each other with civility and respect, even in the face of absolute disagreement, I think it would be a pretty good system.
^^^^^ I agree.
I just don't like liars or cheats. I think universally dishonesty is seen as a flaw. I do not like that people make promises to each other and can't keep them. I'm not on a high horse. I don't disagree that "it happens". That doesn't make it "right". I feel that there ARE univeral morals. They are few, but i think dishonesty is one and that it is looked down upon prtetty much everywhere. Also someone who can't keep to what they say is...flaky and that's whack too. lol Why is it wrong to say that someone who is dishonest in their marriage are less than desirable? Why is judging so bad in that case? It's the truth... IMO of course.
I've got zero problems with calling a dog a dog. I agree that dishonesty is, or at least should be considered a major flaw, and neither is it wrong to call out someone who is dishonest in their marriage. I just think we should all be more careful when throwing around judgments about huge swaths of people who ascribe to different moral standards. I haven't read the whole thread, so I don't know if anyone is making the claim that someone who is dishonest in a relationship is okay. If so then I disagree with that completely. But we do have to be careful applying terms like "the moral standard" when it's not that easy to pin down what a moral standard is for such a diverse society (wherever that society may be).0 -
Has there always been affairs? Yes there has, but people today just don't see marriage as sacred anymore. Most people nowadays get married for all the wrong reasons and then end up divorcing down the line. And celebrities, I am sorry to say it, have made marriage out to be a joke and so kids think of it as that, a joke.
Granted my husband and I have only been married for almost 2 years, but it wasn't a decision to jump into. We have been together for almost 5 years, and have an almost 1 year old, but we had been engaged for 2 years before we got married, and we went through the engaged couples stuff that the church makes you go through, but we look back on it and it makes us appreciate what we have and helped our lines of communication.
Give it 8 more years. I will bet a paycheck...just based on the odds alone, and knowing nothing about you two...that one if not both of you have either a physical, or an emotional affair before that time.0 -
Personally, I think every marriage and situation is different. How 'bout I don't judge you; you don't judge me.
By the way, these are YOUR morals and values...probably based on your religious beliefs. Everyone has different belief systems. None of them are right or wrong. Just different.
Soooo glad I don't live in a society where the religious right wing conservatives think selling guns in Walmart is grand but having sex is a sin!
Lol , was all of this written by the same poster ? I know right? It was so bi-polar.
Huh? What's bipolar about that?0 -
Oh, and why is marriage "sacred"? It is only a contract really, and contracts are broken or dissolved all the time. Of course, I'm an atheist and don't place the same importance on the word "marriage" many religious people might.
Your wife must love that
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My point is the crossover between those in the religious right judging people for their sexuality and thinking guns are just grand!
So, sex is bad...but killing is ok?0 -
My point is the crossover between those in the religious right judging people for their sexuality and thinking guns are just grand!
So, sex is bad...but killing is ok?
Absolutely.0 -
i have to agree with ubermench. If you believe that "marriage values" have gone anywhere, you are mistaken. As long as there has been marriage, there have been examples of infidelity (I could point out several in the Bible). it is only new to folks who have noticed it around them for the first time.
because it's unnatural as a species to be monogamous. It's religion that felt it necessary to base these "guidelines" upon society, not nature. Religion has gone astray, not nature.0
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