Why girls shouldn't lift weights like men - disgusting hey?
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Thank-you for posting this! This is just the inspiration I needed. She looks amazing!0
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I really don't think most women should feel obligated to devote the time and energy it takes to look that way to transform their bodies. It really is a transformation, that's not a natural look for the average woman and to say that "most women should strive for a figure like this" is just as ridiculous as saying most women should strive for a size 0. Theres nothing wrong with doing either if you're doing it in a healthy way and for yourself, but most women shouldn't have to put that much effort into changing their bodies, she even has breast implants (not trying to say there's something wrong with that). There is absolutely nothing wrong with that or looking the way that she does, but your comment in particular bothers me. I'm tired of always seeing opinions on how women are "supposed" to look. We should all strive for the bodies that allow us to feel happiest and healthiest.She looks amazing and I think most women should strive for a figure like this...As for the no cardio, it's still an important part of fitness, especially for women.
I have to agree with you about cardio though, it's important too!0 -
I find her to look too masculine. I don't personally think she looks amazing but she is definately in great shape. Just not what I would want to aspire to. I also don't believe in plastic surgery unless there is a medical need. I would rather see a healthy natural woman not one that has been surgically created.
She has fake boobs. That's the only surgically created feature on her. The rest was gained through dedication, sweat and tears.
I gotta walk away from this thread...the body hating on others is just too much.
So having an opinion about a certain body style that is anything less that she looks amazing is hate. Lol. The fact she had a boob job means her physique in those pictures was surgically created. Without the boobs she would not have the same physique.0 -
someone with that low body fat percent will not have natural breasts like that. it looks very fake to me.
Not necessarily true. I would. In fact, I did years ago.0 -
Looks great ON HER, but definitely not the look I'm going for at all.
ETA: There's nothing wrong with not wanting this look for yourself. That doesn't mean the people who feel that way are rude or out to offend the OP or the woman in the picture. It just means that that's not a look we want for ourselves. If you post something on the internet, you're inviting commentary and opinion, and not all the opinions will be positive. I'm not obligated to praise this picture or what it represents just because it's been posted here.
correct. you are not obligated to post praise for her look if it is something you don't aspire to. you are also not obligated to post something negative about how she looks either. If you don't like this look, if you don't want it for yourself, or if you don't get it then just back out of the thread and post somewhere else that you do like. I never understand why people post things like, "In my honest opinion, I wouldn't want to look that way." fine...then close the thread and go do something else.
no obligation to post positively but also no obligation, or need, to post negatively. internet or not. it is just common every day decency people.
Couldn't agree more!! Did some of you guy's mothers never tell you "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing"?
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Very unrealistic to expect that on a forum. Also I didn't say anything mean, I'm not the only one here who said this body type isn't something I'm going for in my fitness goals. I don't see how that's offensive.
I don't really understand this banter. While the OP's fiance's body (including the perky surgery) is my aspiration, I don't see how saying that it's not someone else's is insulting or rude. Using non-flatering diescriptions of another person's body is offensive and attacking behavior, simply saying that "she looks great but that isn't my ideal" is not offensive or insulting just a broader statement of fact. She did not opine on what characteristics were not consistent with her ideal. Most of the time the difference between a one person's ideal and another is only a percentage of body fat anyway. We all have an ideal and I think that the way this person expressed theirs was really the best possible and most non-offensive way. We've seen so many of these posts turn into figure bashing, and that's not going on here, so why can't we lay off the semantics and be respectful where respect was shown?0 -
I'm working up to heavy lifting.... I think she looks great. I'd prefer the look without the implants, though. Obviously. Lol0
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honestly, lets just DROP IT. everyone has their own opinion, no one cares anymore
Actually, a lot people care, people like me and other women that like to lift heavy and that are sickend by and absolutely despise the negativity caused by the body shaming that goes on from other women when they see pictues like this. It is discouraging to us and it discourages other women that might have thought about starting a heavy lifting program from exploring that avenue for themselves because of the hate they read from others. Because they wouldn't want to hear some of the things that have been posted here said about them. Be honest, would you want to hear/read someone saying negative things about your body that you worked hard for?0 -
I have to agree with you about cardio though, it's important too!
I haven't watched the vids of her working out, but if her heart rate was not elevated during them - I will eat my proverbial hat.0 -
What I want to know is why women are so obsessed with each others boobs....0
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honestly, lets just DROP IT. everyone has their own opinion, no one cares anymore
Actually, a lot people care, people like me and other women that like to lift heavy and that are sickend by and absolutely despise the negativity caused by the body shaming that goes on from other women when they see pictues like this. It is discouraging to us and it discourages other women that might have thought about starting a heavy lifting program from exploring that avenue for themselves because of the hate they read from others. Because they wouldn't want to hear some of the things that have been posted here said about them. Be honest, would you want to hear/read someone saying negative things about your body that you worked hard for?
This!!! It isn't ok for people to tell a woman who is obese that she is too big, so why is it ok to tell a woman who actually cares enough about her body to make herself look good in her eyes and feel good about herself, that she doesn't look good? It just isn't ok!!! No wonder why so many women have body image problems.0 -
What I want to know is why women are so obsessed with each others boobs....
I love them, I used to have them, I lost them after nursing my son, I want them again. I spend a lot of time trying to figure out what sort of rack I want to purchase after my next kiddo.0 -
The OP touted her physique as "this is what lifting does to a woman's body." But it's not. It's what lifting *and* plastic surgery do. Body building decreases body fat and most women see a reduction in breast size. The supposed "success" this woman had included having surgical implants. Just like Lance Armstrong, it wasn't just natural ability enhanced through training and dedication. It was also the steroids and the blood transfusions. Again, something he put into his body that he did not naturally have. That's why his "successes" were nullified.
And before anyone asks, the reason I keep commenting is because I find it hypocritical that bodybuilders are always claiming that lifting enhances the female figure when, in reality, there is a loss of womanly curves (which this OP very clearly illustrates).
well said.
The implants came first before she lost the weight. May I ask, what curves did she lose?
you know what, all i said when i came in here was that she had implants, to which people jumped all over me, so i needed to explain myself. i'm not a fan of implants that look so obviously fake. she didn't "lose" curves, but someone with that low body fat percent will not have natural breasts like that. it looks very fake to me.
the post was about the hard work she put into sculpting her body, not about her boobs. Get over it. He stated already that she had them prior to even getting into amazing shape.0 -
What I want to know is why women are so obsessed with each others boobs....
Probably something to do with competition and reproduction.0 -
What I want to know is why women are so obsessed with each others boobs....
I find a lot of women envy a nice rack. I'm one of the thinnest people I work with, but have probably the biggest rack, I told everyone that when I lost weight my boobs would either be the last thing to go or wouldn't go at all. I've always been well in doubt. For me it's always been the talk, mostly women engage the talk on my boobs, most the time it is "I wish I had natural boobs." Or "How have you lost so much weight and yet have such perky boobs." Honestly a good supportive bra, expensive bra's help a lot. My best response is "Victoria and her secrets help me a lot."0 -
What I want to know is why women are so obsessed with each others boobs....
I love them, I used to have them, I lost them after nursing my son, I want them again. I spend a lot of time trying to figure out what sort of rack I want to purchase after my next kiddo.
I think the tear drop perky ones are pretty. I'm not too excited about rounds balls on chest ala ka boom cleavage. I think I'd go for the best underboob and side cleavage that would be more realistic. I like em cause they are so soft and squishy!0 -
The OP touted her physique as "this is what lifting does to a woman's body." But it's not. It's what lifting *and* plastic surgery do. Body building decreases body fat and most women see a reduction in breast size. The supposed "success" this woman had included having surgical implants. Just like Lance Armstrong, it wasn't just natural ability enhanced through training and dedication. It was also the steroids and the blood transfusions. Again, something he put into his body that he did not naturally have. That's why his "successes" were nullified.
And before anyone asks, the reason I keep commenting is because I find it hypocritical that bodybuilders are always claiming that lifting enhances the female figure when, in reality, there is a loss of womanly curves (which this OP very clearly illustrates).
well said.
The implants came first before she lost the weight. May I ask, what curves did she lose?
you know what, all i said when i came in here was that she had implants, to which people jumped all over me, so i needed to explain myself. i'm not a fan of implants that look so obviously fake. she didn't "lose" curves, but someone with that low body fat percent will not have natural breasts like that. it looks very fake to me.
the post was about the hard work she put into sculpting her body, not about her boobs. Get over it. He stated already that she had them prior to even getting into amazing shape.
It doesn't matter when she got the boobs. They don't look natural to me with that body, thus rendering the whole look not ideal.0 -
Matt, I think she looks incredible. Thank you for posting.
Shame on anyone who tosses out insults about weight training on women's bodies. It is JUST as shaming and insulting to do that as it is to point out how overweight someone is. If you have nothing positive to say, just shut it.0 -
I have work to do now.
I guess my whole point has been that she looks fab and has clearly worked hard to get where she is. So what if she'd had a boob job beforehand?
Nowhere did the op say that this is what women should look like, just that lifting doesn't make women look bulky - and she doesn't.
He is (rightly) proud of his mussus.
There are so many other 'look at how well I have done' threads on MFP and none of them seem to attract negative, snidey comments, and yet it seems that people think it is okay to do that on this thread. If I were the OP, I would see that as proof of how well she has done.
I think if men had posted some of the negative comments that some women have on this thread, they would have been rightly accused of mysogyny.
I find it kind of depressing.
I didn't read all your points, but I agree it is a little depressing, though I believe the subject line invited opinions of how good she looks. But it's the same on boards where people say they don't want to lift. They get called 'skinny fat' and told they won't look good naked.
'To each his own' is not the policy of many on the MFP forums.0 -
I envy women with small, perky boobies. They can wear clothing I can't because I CANNOT not have a bra on. :-(What I want to know is why women are so obsessed with each others boobs....
I love them, I used to have them, I lost them after nursing my son, I want them again. I spend a lot of time trying to figure out what sort of rack I want to purchase after my next kiddo.
I've thought about a reduction, but I don't want the scars and I also think my body would look odd and out of proportion with smaller boobies. So, I buy good bras and choose clothing that works with what I've got.0 -
Well before this thread hits 500 and gets locked down...
Matt your fiance looks amazing. She (and you) have put a lot of hard work in to have the type of bodies you desire. That deserves admiration and respect.
And you have inspired a few ladies here to lift or at least keep their gym appointments. That's what MFP is all about.
To those body shaming her.. have another donut and keep telling yourself you never want to look like her. You needn't worry, I'm quite positive you never will.0 -
The OP touted her physique as "this is what lifting does to a woman's body." But it's not. It's what lifting *and* plastic surgery do. Body building decreases body fat and most women see a reduction in breast size. The supposed "success" this woman had included having surgical implants. Just like Lance Armstrong, it wasn't just natural ability enhanced through training and dedication. It was also the steroids and the blood transfusions. Again, something he put into his body that he did not naturally have. That's why his "successes" were nullified.
And before anyone asks, the reason I keep commenting is because I find it hypocritical that bodybuilders are always claiming that lifting enhances the female figure when, in reality, there is a loss of womanly curves (which this OP very clearly illustrates).
well said.
The implants came first before she lost the weight. May I ask, what curves did she lose?
you know what, all i said when i came in here was that she had implants, to which people jumped all over me, so i needed to explain myself. i'm not a fan of implants that look so obviously fake. she didn't "lose" curves, but someone with that low body fat percent will not have natural breasts like that. it looks very fake to me.
the post was about the hard work she put into sculpting her body, not about her boobs. Get over it. He stated already that she had them prior to even getting into amazing shape.
the whole look is not ideal to me
There I fixed that last sentence for you, it does really sound a little less *****y and a little more pointed when you make your point about what your ideal is instead of picking apart what isn't your ideal on someone else. I'd give you an example of what I mean, but I see you you don't have any photos of yourself anywhere.0 -
It doesn't matter when she got the boobs. They don't look natural to me with that body, thus rendering the whole look not ideal.
Those saying boob job is not natural. Correct.
What about your lipstick in your makeup bag/purse/whatever which contains:
Lanolin oil, sesame seed oil, oleyl erucate, microcrystalline wax, PPG-5 lanolin wax, acetylated lanolin, beeswax, disteardimonium hectorite, fragrance, tocopheryl acetate, rose canina fruit oil, calcium aluminum borosilicate, silica, arginine PCA, BHT, BHA, geraniol, hexyl cinnamal, hydroxycitronellal, calcium sodium borosilicate, synthetic fluorphlogopite, methyl-2 octynoate, polyethylene terephthalate, polymethyl methacrylate. May Contain: Mica, titanium dioxide, iron oxides, red 7, red 28 lake, yellow 6 lake, red 22 lake, bismuth oxychloride, yellow 5 lake, carmine, blue 1 lake
Or your bra's that are designed often to increase bust sizes, give greater cleavage? Or minimizer skirts/trousers/wrappings etc? False teeth? Fillings? Hair accessories?
Whilst I fully comprehend not all of them go inside you, one waxing lyrical about natural whilst wearing the above, is a bit kettle calling pot black?0 -
It doesn't matter when she got the boobs. They don't look natural to me with that body, thus rendering the whole look not ideal.
We know. We got it the first 6-7 times you said it. Why are you so obsessed with this? No - don't answer that. Please.0 -
Here's a suggestion. Get a post-it note, fold it in half, and stick it on the monitor over her chest. Then decide whether or not her body took a lot of hard work and dedication.
What's the BFD? So she's had implants. So have lots of women. It's not for me*, but I don't see it as any different than wearing contacts or getting my teeth straightened.
* Part of why I don't want implants is because I'd end up hating the world even more if people started being nicer or paid more attention to me if I had bigger ta-tas. And on the flip side, this thread shows that some women are really mean if you have bigger ta-tas, too.0 -
The OP touted her physique as "this is what lifting does to a woman's body." But it's not. It's what lifting *and* plastic surgery do. Body building decreases body fat and most women see a reduction in breast size. The supposed "success" this woman had included having surgical implants. Just like Lance Armstrong, it wasn't just natural ability enhanced through training and dedication. It was also the steroids and the blood transfusions. Again, something he put into his body that he did not naturally have. That's why his "successes" were nullified.
And before anyone asks, the reason I keep commenting is because I find it hypocritical that bodybuilders are always claiming that lifting enhances the female figure when, in reality, there is a loss of womanly curves (which this OP very clearly illustrates).
well said.
The implants came first before she lost the weight. May I ask, what curves did she lose?
you know what, all i said when i came in here was that she had implants, to which people jumped all over me, so i needed to explain myself. i'm not a fan of implants that look so obviously fake. she didn't "lose" curves, but someone with that low body fat percent will not have natural breasts like that. it looks very fake to me.
the post was about the hard work she put into sculpting her body, not about her boobs. Get over it. He stated already that she had them prior to even getting into amazing shape.
the whole look is not ideal to me
There I fixed that last sentence for you, it does really sound a little less *****y and a little more pointed when you make your point about what your ideal is instead of picking apart what isn't your ideal on someone else. I'd give you an example of what I mean, but I see you you don't have any photos of yourself anywhere.
just one of the reasons I puffy heart you!0 -
The whole issue of body shaming works both ways.
No, we shouldn't judge how a person wants to improve their body/lifestyle/level of fitness. But the OP opened up mentioning 'zero cardio'. So judging people who do cardio instead of weights. Maybe their opinion of what works for them is different. As long as we're doing SOMETHING to stay fit, who cares if we all look like models? I know I will never look as good as the pictures on the front page, lifting or no lifting, so we should be supporting each other for our commitment to a better lifestyle rather than our attempts to get to a certain body-shape/look.0 -
I'm ignoring all the stupid, judgy comments on this thread.
I just stopped by to say you're both hot, and if you two made porn, I'd buy it.0 -
There I fixed that last sentence for you, it does really sound a little less *****y and a little more pointed when you make your point about what your ideal is instead of picking apart what isn't your ideal on someone else. I'd give you an example of what I mean, but I see you you don't have any photos of yourself anywhere.
This thread implied that women should lift weights in order to look like the o.p. My opinion is that is not ideal. Sorry you have a problem with that. When someone posts something like that, they open it up for criticism. You're right, I don't have any photos of myself viewable to non-friends. I'd rather remain anonymous on the internet.0 -
It doesn't matter when she got the boobs. They don't look natural to me with that body, thus rendering the whole look not ideal.
Those saying boob job is not natural. Correct.
What about your makeup which contains:
Lanolin oil, sesame seed oil, oleyl erucate, microcrystalline wax, PPG-5 lanolin wax, acetylated lanolin, beeswax, disteardimonium hectorite, fragrance, tocopheryl acetate, rose canina fruit oil, calcium aluminum borosilicate, silica, arginine PCA, BHT, BHA, geraniol, hexyl cinnamal, hydroxycitronellal, calcium sodium borosilicate, synthetic fluorphlogopite, methyl-2 octynoate, polyethylene terephthalate, polymethyl methacrylate. May Contain: Mica, titanium dioxide, iron oxides, red 7, red 28 lake, yellow 6 lake, red 22 lake, bismuth oxychloride, yellow 5 lake, carmine, blue 1 lake
Or your bra's that are designed often to increase bust sizes, give greater cleavage? Or minimizer skirts/trousers/wrappings etc? False teeth? Fillings? Hair accessories?
Whilst I fully comprehend not all of them go inside you, one waxing lyrical about natural whilst wearing the above, is a bit kettle calling pot black?
umm because one is permament and the others arent?
back to the topic - i can admire her body - damn what a lot of hard work must have gone into it - but personally FOR ME - i dont find her look attractive. each to their own
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The whole issue of body shaming works both ways.
No, we shouldn't judge how a person wants to improve their body/lifestyle/level of fitness. But the OP opened up mentioning 'zero cardio'. So judging people who do cardio instead of weights. Maybe their opinion of what works for them is different. As long as we're doing SOMETHING to stay fit, who cares if we all look like models? I know I will never look as good as the pictures on the front page, lifting or no lifting, so we should be supporting each other for our commitment to a better lifestyle rather than our attempts to get to a certain body-shape/look.
Pretty sure Matt wasn't doing any judging - rather stating that women didn't have to do cardio to look like that.0
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