Advice, please...dating a man with 2 daughters

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AwesomeMoJo
AwesomeMoJo Posts: 1,145 Member
I am going to ask for advice...now, please don't make rude comments, or bash anyone else's advice as we are all individuals who have different opinions and values...


This may sound strange but I have dated a guy with sons...but never a guy with daughters. It seems that this is very different. Women or girls can be catty, competitive, or just down right *****y....

D is a WONDERFUL guy. He is a good father, treats me well, has a good job, is respectful, kind, funny, and handsome.

Here is the problem....we were talking last night and he said something to me that kind of stung...(I don't think he meant it to be so)

I know and respect that his daughters come first in his life and I never will...(sounds kind of depressing, I know). Last night he said something and it hurt me because he bascially told me that I was 3rd in his life. My heart dropped. I mean I know that his girls will come first...but is it too much to make me feel like I may be number 1 (just for a minute)??? It truly stung..and made me realize that I won't ever be his number one. He will always be mine...

His daughter Desiree asked him last night a bunch of questions...she is concerned (as she should be)...about he and I. She is 13 years old. When I was 13 years old my father remarried a woman and I never saw him again. It broke my heart..still hurts to this day that my father dropped me and my sis like a bad habit. So, I completely understand her feelings..more than he may know. She feels like her daddy won't love her anymore if he loves me....again, I understand her feelings....

I have never made his girls feel bad, been cruel to them or anything...and she has said as such...it is just one of those internal feelings you get.

The thing I Can't shake is that I will never feel important in his life....like he is in mine. He will always be the number one person in my life..I will love him, respect, take care of and support him..but if it came down to it and I needed him and his daughters needed him...I would be left in a heartbeat.

Am I nuts for feeling the way I do? I love him. He loves me. But I know that oftentimes...love isn't enough.

Is what I am saying making sense?
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  • ccburn5
    ccburn5 Posts: 473 Member
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    Oh boy! Thats a pickle. My big sister recently divorced and is dating a guy but they both have kids from a previous marriage so I think they both "get it". I am in a fairly rocky marriage myself and do not see a split as impossible and think of that as well. Its sad what you said about your dad and not seeing him after he got the "new girl". I can not see myself ever turning my back onto my kids for another girl but I definitely understand wanting to find happiness after being in a ****ty relationship for so long though. Good luck.
  • TylerJ76
    TylerJ76 Posts: 4,375 Member
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    I think you never coming before his daughters says something about what kind of father he is. That is a good thing in my book..
  • djsupreme6
    djsupreme6 Posts: 1,210 Member
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    I am going to ask for advice...now, please don't make rude comments, or bash anyone else's advice as we are all individuals who have different opinions and values...


    This may sound strange but I have dated a guy with sons...but never a guy with daughters. It seems that this is very different. Women or girls can be catty, competitive, or just down right *****y....

    D is a WONDERFUL guy. He is a good father, treats me well, has a good job, is respectful, kind, funny, and handsome.

    Here is the problem....we were talking last night and he said something to me that kind of stung...(I don't think he meant it to be so)

    I know and respect that his daughters come first in his life and I never will...(sounds kind of depressing, I know). Last night he said something and it hurt me because he bascially told me that I was 3rd in his life. My heart dropped. I mean I know that his girls will come first...but is it too much to make me feel like I may be number 1 (just for a minute)??? It truly stung..and made me realize that I won't ever be his number one. He will always be mine...

    His daughter Desiree asked him last night a bunch of questions...she is concerned (as she should be)...about he and I. She is 13 years old. When I was 13 years old my father remarried a woman and I never saw him again. It broke my heart..still hurts to this day that my father dropped me and my sis like a bad habit. So, I completely understand her feelings..more than he may know. She feels like her daddy won't love her anymore if he loves me....again, I understand her feelings....

    I have never made his girls feel bad, been cruel to them or anything...and she has said as such...it is just one of those internal feelings you get.

    The thing I Can't shake is that I will never feel important in his life....like he is in mine. He will always be the number one person in my life..I will love him, respect, take care of and support him..but if it came down to it and I needed him and his daughters needed him...I would be left in a heartbeat.

    Am I nuts for feeling the way I do? I love him. He loves me. But I know that oftentimes...love isn't enough.

    Is what I am saying making sense?

    Wow!!! 3rd in his life and only behind his daughters..I think thats pretty damn good if ya ask me...cause that would make you his number one GF..correct!!..his daughters will come first and always will and thats just something you accept and once you do..you will realize that you won't feel this way anymore...glad you aren't pushing it cause he very well could resent you for doing that...just be there for him..for his daughters...and trust me..you are his #1 but since there is no ranking system then its a good thing for him to be open and honest and say that to you
  • saxmaniac
    saxmaniac Posts: 1,133 Member
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    Having children changes everything. I've heard women with kids say the exact thing to childless men they're dating. I think it comes partially from the blood bond, but also knowing them longer. You're the new person in the family.

    It doesn't mean you're always second-best, I think it means more that he when he makes long-term decisions and weighs big trade-offs (imagine if you wanted a vacation and he wanted to pay for his kids' college, his kids has to come first). In a way, this is what you didn't have as a kid, if your father left.

    That said, you definitely *should* feel like #1, yes, for a minute, a day, a week... and this should happen often.
  • AwesomeMoJo
    AwesomeMoJo Posts: 1,145 Member
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    Wow!!! 3rd in his life and only behind his daughters..I think thats pretty damn good if ya ask me...cause that would make you his number one GF..correct!!..his daughters will come first and always will and thats just something you accept and once you do..you will realize that you won't feel this way anymore...glad you aren't pushing it cause he very well could resent you for doing that...just be there for him..for his daughters...and trust me..you are his #1 but since there is no ranking system then its a good thing for him to be open and honest and say that to you

    You are 100% correct..but sometime it is what is said and not how it is said. I think that is what hurt me. I would NEVER get in the way of him being a dad. His girls are wonderful. They know they are welcome to be here anytime they want. (HE is moving in with me..I think that is what sparked the questions). I wouldn't push it..never....I am not a resentful, horrible woman...lol..I just want to know that he loves me and will be by my side as well as theirs. I want to be a family with them...unfortunately...it is hard with teenagers...

    I want the chance to love them as much as he does...
  • chunkmunk
    chunkmunk Posts: 221 Member
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    I'm (happily) married with 3 kids. If someone asked me who came first, hubby or kids, I'd say kids. I hope that isn't messed up. :) But maybe it gives you a little perspective.
  • boomboom011
    boomboom011 Posts: 1,459
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    I think you never coming before his daughters says something about what kind of father he is. That is a good thing in my book..

    i have to agree with this statement.
  • BrettPGH
    BrettPGH Posts: 4,720 Member
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    Seems like you've got the right perspective, just hearing a comment stung you.

    That's part of KNOWING that his daughters come first. They are #1 in his life. That doesn't mean he doesn't love you or that you don't mean the world to him. Just that the kids come first. That's all.

    It shows what a good father he is. And there's nothing more important than that. Would you still respect him if he was like your "father" (hard to call him that), who left you and your sister for some other woman?

    It isn't easy. But it's better to be with a good man who's committed to his kids. That means he can also be committed to your relationship. If he were putting you ahead of his own children I'd be worried for you about the kind of guy you were with.

    Good luck to you. You got this, just a moment of angst is all.
  • sillygoosie
    sillygoosie Posts: 1,109 Member
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    Some people can deal with not being first and some can't. As a single mom, I deal with this all the time.

    You should feel grateful that his daughters come first. It means he has his priorities straight and probably has his *kitten* together. If he said you came first, wouldn't you question that?
  • djsupreme6
    djsupreme6 Posts: 1,210 Member
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    Wow!!! 3rd in his life and only behind his daughters..I think thats pretty damn good if ya ask me...cause that would make you his number one GF..correct!!..his daughters will come first and always will and thats just something you accept and once you do..you will realize that you won't feel this way anymore...glad you aren't pushing it cause he very well could resent you for doing that...just be there for him..for his daughters...and trust me..you are his #1 but since there is no ranking system then its a good thing for him to be open and honest and say that to you

    You are 100% correct..but sometime it is what is said and not how it is said. I think that is what hurt me. I would NEVER get in the way of him being a dad. His girls are wonderful. They know they are welcome to be here anytime they want. (HE is moving in with me..I think that is what sparked the questions). I wouldn't push it..never....I am not a resentful, horrible woman...lol..I just want to know that he loves me and will be by my side as well as theirs. I want to be a family with them...unfortunately...it is hard with teenagers...

    I want the chance to love them as much as he does...

    you know what?...this answer you give is the reason that you all will be happy and healthy together...you seem like a fantastic person...it is a slippery slope at times but at times it may seem like a blow to the ego or something but those daughters must know they are and will remain at the top spot....in the meantime...he will love you beyond words for this cause thats a great guy right there for putting that out there...honesty from the beginning like that...putting his daughters first...thats a real man right there...just be there as you said and it will all work out fine...he will for sure be by your side...him saying all this stuff shows he already is
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,022 Member
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    You are 100% correct..but sometime it is what is said and not how it is said. I think that is what hurt me. I would NEVER get in the way of him being a dad. His girls are wonderful. They know they are welcome to be here anytime they want. (HE is moving in with me..I think that is what sparked the questions). I wouldn't push it..never....I am not a resentful, horrible woman...lol..I just want to know that he loves me and will be by my side as well as theirs. I want to be a family with them...unfortunately...it is hard with teenagers...

    I want the chance to love them as much as he does...


    It would be nice to have an absolute guarantee that he will always be by your side. None of us get that guarantee.

    The daughters are kids, they may make some hurtful comments, and will demand he prove his love. If you choose to be with a man with kids, I don't know how you can change that.

    Insecurity (from you or them) can be pretty destructive.
  • vim_n_vigor
    vim_n_vigor Posts: 4,089 Member
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    I am married with 2 sons and 1 more on the way. If it came down to my kids and my husband needed me at the same time, the kids would win. I think he knows that and would expect that. I would expect the same from him. It isn't that he is not important in my life. It just means that my husband is an adult and can take care of his own business, my kids are, well, kids and I don't expect that from them. I think it speaks very highly of him as a father and a boyfriend that he can and will say that to you. How would you feel if he had no problem just walking away from them?
  • DarkAngel262
    DarkAngel262 Posts: 118 Member
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    Wow!!! 3rd in his life and only behind his daughters..I think thats pretty damn good if ya ask me...cause that would make you his number one GF..correct!!..his daughters will come first and always will and thats just something you accept and once you do..you will realize that you won't feel this way anymore...glad you aren't pushing it cause he very well could resent you for doing that...just be there for him..for his daughters...and trust me..you are his #1 but since there is no ranking system then its a good thing for him to be open and honest and say that to you

    You are 100% correct..but sometime it is what is said and not how it is said. I think that is what hurt me. I would NEVER get in the way of him being a dad. His girls are wonderful. They know they are welcome to be here anytime they want. (HE is moving in with me..I think that is what sparked the questions). I wouldn't push it..never....I am not a resentful, horrible woman...lol..I just want to know that he loves me and will be by my side as well as theirs. I want to be a family with them...unfortunately...it is hard with teenagers...

    I want the chance to love them as much as he does...

    What a wonderful mindset you have! Dating someone with kids can be tricky. I understand the comment just kind of sat wrong with you, but it sounds like your blended brood is on the way to a really healthy family. You WILL love them as much as he does. And take it from someone with 2 sets of parents...sometimes just loving their parent unconditionally is what makes the kids love you that much in return. Good luck :heart:
  • MizTerry
    MizTerry Posts: 3,763 Member
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    Honestly honey, if you are having issues with it now, you'll REALLY have issues with it then, especially when they hit mid teens and want Dad to take sides between you and them if an argument ensues.

    Attitude is half the battle and I wish y'all well.
  • tashjs21
    tashjs21 Posts: 4,584 Member
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    My daughter is number 1 in my life no matter what. (and I am married to her father). When dating someone with children you just have to accept that they are going to put their children first.

    Trust me, you really don't want the type of person that is going to put someone above their child. That person is not going to end up being very loyal and good to you in the long run.

    I know it hurts to hear it but that doesn't mean he won't be capable of true and deep feelings for you. :flowerforyou:
  • jersey_jenn
    jersey_jenn Posts: 122 Member
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    the kids will always be first, if you had children you would most likely put them in front of their father or anyone else as well. it doesn't mean he loves you less, just in a different way then he loves his daughters. as long as you're his number one and only romantic connection then you are number one in that aspect of his life, right?
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
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    The bottom line is, you're all VERY important to him. But his children will NEED him... you're a grown woman and do not. They often will need to come first (and really should, imo.)

    However, I'd be curious to know what he says to his 13 year old that is afraid she'll be left in the dust if he dates you... He needs to reassure her and stand up for you. Just my opinon.
  • DixiedoesMFP
    DixiedoesMFP Posts: 935 Member
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    I once met a man who had completely written off his daughter (completely - signed over parental rights) because the woman he was marrying told him too.

    Would you want to marry that man?

    I know the comment stung. But I think it's intent was not to be hurtful. They are children....they depend on their father for everything. Appreciate that he is a good man who will always take care of his children, meaning that in the future, he would do the same for children you two might have together. I think that's a very good thing.
  • dodihere
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    I disliked my own teenage daughter. I can't imagine someone else's.