Waitress fired for posting this online

Going back to the specifics of this case I can very well see the pastor's thinking. She is treating the waitress the way one might treat a child and trying to teach the lesson "ask for a reasonable amount and you get it, be greedy and you get nothing" and is using the 10% she gives to God as her yardstick for what is being greedy. The problem with that, of course, is that we all have different ideas about what is reasonable and what is greedy.

Except a lot of restaurants, and this one in particular, put a note on the menu "groups of X or more will have automatic gratuity of X% added to bill". The waitress did not ask for the 18%. The chain made customers aware and the waitress followed policy. If the customer didn't see the policy she could have politely asked the wait staff why 18% was added on. If the customer still had an issue with the amount, she should have taken it up with management or the chain.

It's always been my opinion that if you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to eat at a restaurant.

Absolutely!

It's always been my opinion that if you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to eat at a restaurant.

Absolutely!

But on the same token, you shouldn't serve food if you have a bad attitude and still expect a gratuity.

I can see both sides with the automatic gratuity. The problem is that the tip percentage tends to go down with a large group rather than up, even though the waitress may be working her tail off. Then she spends an hour or two waiting on one group, doesn't get other tables since the host tries to make it so that each server has around the same number of tables, and at the end if they don't tip he/she just made less than minimum on it all.

If that weren't the trend there would be less restaurants that do this. So if you're in a big group be sure to tip well if you do get good service and maybe it'll die off.

If you do have an auto gratuity and receive crappy service, you can take it up with a manager and you won't have to tip that much, if any.

You should always tip 10 to 15%. If you did not received good service then call the manager over. Waiting tables and dealing with the public is not a piece of cake. Most of them are single parents or paying their own way through college. They wait on you HAND and FOOT and only make $2.13 an hour.

People like that had a plan NOT to tip anyway. ( Pastor)

It's really messed up that the waitress got fired because some stingy old minister got offended that her stupidity was posted online. When you give a religion THAT much power, things start to go downhill.

where the heck are people eating that they have so many problems with servers? it is an extremely rare occasion that i have a less than average server.

i think most of the people complaining about servers are probably the real problem.

its like the people who complain about so many bad drivers...it usually turns out that it is them that is the bad driver.

and stop being cheap and tip a minimum of 20%.

I think Applebee's is totally in the wrong, and the customer is a jerk. If you can't afford to tip you can't afford to eat out, period!

Im not a waitress or have ever been one but i do work in a feild where tips come into play. im a massage therapist. for example: today i had 3 clients today the first did not have anything but a 20 and some ones (btw i get 20s as tips all the time) i didnt have change to break it so i told him it was ok and not to worry about it, the second left me 5 and the thrid didnt leave anything, i understand but at the same time it kind of irritates me especially when i get 15 to 50 for one session from alot of clients. on the other hand i make more than 2.50 so it dosnt bother me as much so if i was a waitress making 2.50 and ppl didnt tip me id be pretty pissed but i wouldnt have made such a huge deal of it, maybe told my friends thats about it not put them on blast like she did. so my conclusion is: not right of him to leave her no tip, but also not right of her to publically display his s***.

Im not a waitress or have ever been one but i do work in a feild where tips come into play. im a massage therapist. for example: today i had 3 clients today the first did not have anything but a 20 and some ones (btw i get 20s as tips all the time) i didnt have change to break it so i told him it was ok and not to worry about it, the second left me 5 and the thrid didnt leave anything, i understand but at the same time it kind of irritates me especially when i get 15 to 50 for one session from alot of clients. on the other hand i make more than 2.50 so it dosnt bother me as much so if i was a waitress making 2.50 and ppl didnt tip me id be pretty pissed but i wouldnt have made such a huge deal of it, maybe told my friends thats about it not put them on blast like she did. so my conclusion is: not right of him to leave her no tip, but also not right of her to publically display his s***.

i would tip for a massage but i hear people say that they look at it like a medical procedure. kind of like physical therapy...and nobody tips PTs/Drs. and especially if they are using their insurance then i can see how they could overlook that since you dont tip any other health providers. thoughts?

Im not a waitress or have ever been one but i do work in a feild where tips come into play. im a massage therapist. for example: today i had 3 clients today the first did not have anything but a 20 and some ones (btw i get 20s as tips all the time) i didnt have change to break it so i told him it was ok and not to worry about it, the second left me 5 and the thrid didnt leave anything, i understand but at the same time it kind of irritates me especially when i get 15 to 50 for one session from alot of clients. on the other hand i make more than 2.50 so it dosnt bother me as much so if i was a waitress making 2.50 and ppl didnt tip me id be pretty pissed but i wouldnt have made such a huge deal of it, maybe told my friends thats about it not put them on blast like she did. so my conclusion is: not right of him to leave her no tip, but also not right of her to publically display his s***.

i would tip for a massage but i hear people say that they look at it like a medical procedure. kind of like physical therapy...and nobody tips PTs/Drs. and especially if they are using their insurance then i can see how they could overlook that since you dont tip any other health providers. thoughts?

doctors and physical therapist are more for medial reasons, yes i do work with ppl who have injuries or diseses or conditions but im not a doc or physical therapist, but as a massage therapist is a pampering luxury thing like getting your hair done (cut color whatever) or your nails stuff like that its a luxury not a prociedure or exam lol thats how i think about it, it kinda sucks when i dont get tips but i dont get huffy and puffy and put all my clients on blast lol (well except just now just to make a point, also did not reaveal names or anything like that) but ya its ok id rather them at least come see me again to fix their issues even if they can only afford the base pay.

doctors and physical therapist are more for medial reasons, yes i do work with ppl who have injuries or diseses or conditions but im not a doc or physical therapist, but as a massage therapist is a pampering luxury thing like getting your hair done (cut color whatever) or your nails stuff like that its a luxury not a prociedure or exam lol thats how i think about it, it kinda sucks when i dont get tips but i dont get huffy and puffy and put all my clients on blast lol (well except just now just to make a point, also did not reaveal names or anything like that) but ya its ok id rather them at least come see me again to fix their issues even if they can only afford the base pay.

thats what i meant...if someone is going to you for pampering i think a tip should be expected...but if they are going to you for an injury and insurance is covering then its a medical procedure and i would think a tip is not necessary.

depends on the person i guess ive seen insurance clients tip and some dont the way i think about it is the insurance is paying for it- if i get a free meal, free accupunture, free energy work, free service from someone due to coupon or insurance ect i tip. i got in a car accident and had whiplash my insurance covered for accupuncture and massage and i tipped cause they provided me with a service that was basically free to me so a few $$ out of my pocket isnt a big thing, im very generous with tippin and helpin ppl ill buy ppls lunch at the drive through behind me or coffee im jus a super nice generuos person. either way is fine with me but i know therapists who get mad when they get a 5 tip let alone nothing.

I don't even understand... how do you give God 10%? Is God accepting credit cards now? Or serving lunch? There's no parallel. And obviously, the waitress didn't choose how the receipts are printed or to have the "auto tip" on there. That's just a bunch of self-rightous BS. IMO, that is ;-p

ETA: though I would have blacked out the signature, personally.

Agreed. Luckily here in Australia we dont tip anything and all receive modest wages! Sucked in merica.

doctors and physical therapist are more for medial reasons, yes i do work with ppl who have injuries or diseses or conditions but im not a doc or physical therapist, but as a massage therapist is a pampering luxury thing like getting your hair done (cut color whatever) or your nails stuff like that its a luxury not a prociedure or exam lol thats how i think about it, it kinda sucks when i dont get tips but i dont get huffy and puffy and put all my clients on blast lol (well except just now just to make a point, also did not reaveal names or anything like that) but ya its ok id rather them at least come see me again to fix their issues even if they can only afford the base pay.

thats what i meant...if someone is going to you for pampering i think a tip should be expected...but if they are going to you for an injury and insurance is covering then its a medical procedure and i would think a tip is not necessary.

depends on the person i guess ive seen insurance clients tip and some dont the way i think about it is the insurance is paying for it- if i get a free meal, free accupunture, free energy work, free service from someone due to coupon or insurance ect i tip. i got in a car accident and had whiplash my insurance covered for accupuncture and massage and i tipped cause they provided me with a service that was basically free to me so a few $$ out of my pocket isnt a big thing, im very generous with tippin and helpin ppl ill buy ppls lunch at the drive through behind me or coffee im jus a super nice generuos person. either way is fine with me but i know therapists who get mad when they get a 5 tip let alone nothing.

Granted I never get massages anyways, so when you aren't getting them, there isn't anyone to cheat out of a tip... but I honestly had no idea that tipping for a massage was even customary... Good to know if I ever get one... I knew it was customary to tip waitresses and drivers at the airport... but I guess I had just assumed that tipping would have already been included in the $75 or whatever the going rate for a massage would be, because even if the massage therapist only got half of what the price of a massage is per hour it would still be WAY more than I make an hr... Awesome for you! looks like I might need to switch professions

i mean i guess its not customary (like getting massages nails hair ect) but its nice lol and i dont get half lol but yes that my point i def dont make 2.50 or whatever it is so not getting a tip or a 5 dollar tip isnt a big deal to me lol now if i was a waitress id be a lil pisssed, but the way i see it is if if im getting service whatever it may be- i tip. thats just me, but then again im not a cheap tipper lol i have one client whos through his insurance and he leaves me 40 to 50 everytime which is more than what i even make to do the session. its very nice of him and i apprecitae it very much.

In the context of tipping custom in the US I think the client was being an *kitten*, but I also think paying waiting staff $2.50 is a joke. As the employee I wouldn't have publicly posted it, as the employer I'm not sure what I would do. Probably just reprimand the employee and leave it at that, unless it was not a first time offence.

In the UK the minimum wage is £6.19 ($9.83) per hour and restaurants cannot pay less and use tips to top it up. So tipping culture is very different here. That said I still tip about 10% if the service is good. But, if it's been automatically added to my bill and I'm paying by card I'll ask to have it removed and then leave a cash tip so that is goes into the right hands.

- https://www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-rates
- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7533863.stm

I don't really understand how restaurants here get away with doing that, but they do. The "assumption" that someone is going to make enough in tips to cover the difference is ridiculous.
On top of that, many restaurants make waiters tip everyone else who helped them out of their tips. Hostesses, bus boys, bar staff.. probably so they can get away with paying all those people under minimum wage also.

I waited tables 20 years ago, and it was really hard to make a living wage. People say go get a different job, but when you're unskilled it's not an easy thing to do. It took a long time to work away from those kinds of jobs.