This may be a load of rubbish but worth posting

BEFORE YOU READ.... PLEASE DONT SLAM ME AS I AM ONLY POSTING FOR INFORMATION, NOT SAYING ITS TRUE OR NOT, JUST SHARING IT FROM FACEBOOK AS I FOUND IT INTERESTING.


Sweet KILLER.

In October of 2001, my sister started getting very sick She had stomach spasms and she was having a hard time getting around. Walking was a major chore. It took everything she had just to get out of bed; she was in so much pain.

By March 2002, she had undergone several tissue and muscle biopsies and was on 24 various prescription medications. The doctors could not determine what was wrong with her. She was in so much pain, and so sick she just knew she was dying.

She put her house, bank accounts, life insurance, etc., in her oldest daughter's name, and made sure that her younger children were to be taken care of.

She also wanted her last hooray, so she planned a trip to Florida (basically in a wheelchair) for March 22nd.

On March 19, I called her to ask how her most recent tests went, and she said they didn't find anything on the test, but they believe she had MS.

I recalled an article a friend of mine e-mailed to me and I asked my sister if she drank diet soda? She told me that she did. As a matter of fact, she was getting ready to crack one open that moment.

I told her not to open it, and to stop drinking the diet soda! I e-mailed her an article my friend, a lawyer, had sent. My sister called me within 32 hours after our phone conversation and told me she had stopped drinking the diet soda AND she could walk! The muscle spasms went away. She said she didn't feel 100% but, she sure felt a lot better.

She told me she was going to her doctor with this article and would call me when she got home.

Well, she called me, and said her doctor was amazed! He is going to call all of his MS patients to find out if they consumed artificial sweeteners of any kind. In a nutshell, she was being poisoned by the Aspartame in the diet soda.. and literally dying a slow and miserable death

When she got to Florida March 22, all she had to take was one pill, and that was a pill for the Aspartame poisoning! She is well on her way to a complete recovery. And she is walking! No wheelchair! This article saved her life.If it says 'SUGAR FREE' on the label; DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!I have spent several days lecturing at the WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE on 'ASPARTAME,' marketed as'Nutra Sweet,' 'Equal,' and 'Spoonful.'In the keynote address by the EPA, it was announced that in the United States in 2001 there is an epidemic of multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus. It was difficult to determine exactly what toxin was causing this to be rampant. I stood up and said that I was there to lecture on exactly that subject.

I will explain why Aspartame is so dangerous: When the temperature of this sweetener exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood alcohol in ASPARTAME converts to formaldehyde and then to formic acid, which in turn causes metabolic acidosis. Formic acid is the poison found in the sting of fire ants. The methanol toxicity mimics, among other conditions, multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus.

Many people were being diagnosed in error. Although multiple sclerosis is not a death sentence, Methanol toxicity is!

Systemic lupus has become almost as rampant as multiple sclerosis, especially with Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi drinkers.The victim usually does not know that the Aspartame is the culprit. He or she continues its use; irritating the lupus to such a degree that it may become a life-threatening condition. We have seen patients with systemic lupus become asymptotic, once taken off diet sodas.

In cases of those diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, most of the symptoms disappear. We've seen many cases where vision loss returned and hearing loss improved markedly.

This also applies to cases of tinnitus and fibromyalgia. During a lecture, I said, 'If you are using ASPARTAME (Nutra Sweet, Equal, Spoonful, etc) and you suffer from fibromyalgia symptoms, spasms, shooting, pains, numbness in your legs,
Cramps,
Vertigo,
Dizziness,
Headaches,
Tinnitus,
Joint pain,
Unexplainable depression, anxiety attacks, slurred speech, blurred vision, or memory loss you probably have ASPARTAME poisoning!' People were jumping up during the lecture saying,'I have some of these symptoms. Is it reversible?'

Yes!
Yes!
Yes!
STOP drinking diet sodas and be alert for Aspartame on food labels! Many products are fortified with it! This is a serious problem. Dr. Espart (one of my speakers) remarked that so many people seem to be symptomatic for MS and during his recent visit to a hospice; a nurse stated that six of her friends, who were heavy Diet Coke addicts, had all been diagnosed with MS. This is beyond coincidence!

Diet soda is NOT a diet product! It is a chemically altered, multiple SODIUM (salt) and ASPARTAME containing product that actually makes you crave carbohydrates.

It is far more likely to make you GAIN weight!

These products also contain formaldehyde, which stores in the fat cells, particularly in the hips and thighs. Formaldehyde is an absolute toxin and is used primarily to preserve 'tissue specimens.'

Many products we use every day contain this chemical but we SHOULD NOT store it IN our body!

Dr. H. J. Roberts stated in his lectures that once free of the 'diet products' and with no significant increase in exercise; his patients lost an average of 19 pounds over a trial period.Aspartame is especially dangerous for diabetics. We found that some physicians, who believed that they had a patient with retinopathy, in fact, had symptoms caused by Aspartame. The Aspartame drives the blood sugar out of control. Thus diabetics may suffer acute memory loss due to the fact that aspartic acid and phenylalanine are NEUROTOXIC when taken without the other amino acids necessary for a good balance.

Treating diabetes is all about BALANCE.. Especially with diabetics, the Aspartame passes the blood/brain barrier and it then deteriorates the neurons of the brain; causing various levels of brain damage, Seizures, Depression, Manic depression, Panic attacks, Uncontrollable anger and rage.Consumption of Aspartame causes these same symptoms in non-diabetics as well. Documentation and observation also reveal that thousands of children diagnosed with ADD and ADHD have had complete turnarounds in their behavior when these chemicals have been removed from their diet.

So called 'behavior modification prescription drugs' (Ritalin and others) are no longer needed.Truth be told, they were never NEEDED in the first place!Most of these children were being 'poisoned' on a daily basis with the very foods that were 'better for them than sugar.'It is also suspected that the Aspartame in thousands of pallets of diet Coke and diet Pepsi consumed by men and women fighting in the Gulf War, may be partially to blame for the well-known Gulf War Syndrome.

Dr. Roberts warns that it can cause birth defects, i.e. mental retardation, if taken at the time of conception and during early pregnancy. Children are especially at risk for neurological disorders and should NEVER be given artificial sweeteners.

There are many different case histories to relate of children suffering grand mal seizures and other neurological disturbances talking about a plague of neurological diseases directly caused by the use of this deadly poison.'

Herein lies the problem: There were Congressional Hearings when Aspartame was included in 100 different products and strong objection was made concerning its use. Since this initial hearing, there have been two subsequent hearings, and still nothing has been done. The drug and chemical lobbies have very deep pockets.

Sadly, MONSANTO'S patent on Aspartame has EXPIRED! There are now over 5,000 products on the market that contain this deadly chemical and there will be thousands more introduced. Everybody wants a 'piece of the Aspartame pie.'I assure you that MONSANTO, the creator of Aspartame, knows how deadly it is.

And isn't it ironic that MONSANTO funds, among others, the American Diabetes Association, the American Dietetic Association and the Conference of the American College of Physicians?

This has been recently exposed in the New York Times. These [organizations] cannot criticize any additives or convey their link to MONSANTO because they take money from the food industry and are required to endorse their products.Senator Howard Metzenbaum wrote and presented a bill that would require label warnings on products containing Aspartame, especially regarding pregnant women, children and infants.

The bill would also institute independent studies on the known dangers and the problems existing in the general population regarding seizures, changes in brain chemistry, neurological changes and behavioural symptoms.
The bill was killed.It is known that the powerful drug and chemical lobbies are responsible for this, letting loose the hounds of disease and death on an unsuspecting and uninformed public. Well, you're informed now!
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  • bathsheba_c
    bathsheba_c Posts: 1,873 Member
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  • bathsheba_c
    bathsheba_c Posts: 1,873 Member
    To be slightly less mean (but only slightly), aspartame has been proven safe for use (except by phenylketuronic-sensitive folks) in over 90 countries, it has been proven safe in innumerable studies over many decades, and the only time its safety was every called into question was not because of negative reactions, but because of a formality (the FDA wasn't satisfied with the methodology of the original safety studies).
  • ashleab37
    ashleab37 Posts: 575 Member
    This is the song that doesn't end. Yes, it goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. And they'll keep right on singing it forever just because this is the song that doesn't end. Yes, it goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. And they'll keep right on singing it forever just because this is the song that doesn't end. Yes, it goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. And they'll keep right on singing it forever just because this is the song that doesn't end. Yes, it goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. And they'll keep right on singing it forever just because this is the song that doesn't end. Yes, it goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. And they'll keep right on singing it forever just because this is the song that doesn't end. Yes, it goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. And they'll keep right on singing it forever just because this
    :laugh:
  • ok ok ok i get your message... like i said at the beginning of the message, i don;t want to be slammed as i know nothing about this i just thought it was an interesting read and thought i would post here for others to read as i don;t know whether its true or not... but thankfully you have put me straight... thanks for that and have a nice day.
  • freerange
    freerange Posts: 1,722 Member
    Safe? I suppose it depends on how you classify safe. Is there some evidence it "can" harm you, yes. Personally I like to stay away from artificial anything.
  • Lisa__Michelle
    Lisa__Michelle Posts: 845 Member
    Bump
  • stephdeeable
    stephdeeable Posts: 1,407 Member
    This is the song that doesn't end. Yes, it goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. And they'll keep right on singing it forever just because this is the song that doesn't end. Yes, it goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. And they'll keep right on singing it forever just because this is the song that doesn't end. Yes, it goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. And they'll keep right on singing it forever just because this is the song that doesn't end. Yes, it goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. And they'll keep right on singing it forever just because this is the song that doesn't end. Yes, it goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. And they'll keep right on singing it forever just because this is the song that doesn't end. Yes, it goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. And they'll keep right on singing it forever just because this

    Oh man, flashbacks of harassing our bus driver in elementary school. That poor man....
  • Its not a load of rubish its a proven fact the FDA approved posion for the people!!!!!!!!

    Aspartame is the technical name for the brand names NutraSweet, Equal, Spoonful, and Equal-Measure. It was discovered by accident in 1965 when James Schlatter, a chemist of G.D. Searle Company, was testing an anti-ulcer drug.

    What you don't know WILL hurt you. Find out the dangerous effects of artificial sweeteners to your health. Aspartame was approved for dry goods in 1981 and for carbonated beverages in 1983. It was originally approved for dry goods on July 26, 1974, but objections filed by neuroscience researcher Dr John W. Olney and Consumer attorney James Turner in August 1974 as well as investigations of G.D. Searle's research practices caused the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to put approval of aspartame on hold (December 5, 1974). In 1985, Monsanto purchased G.D. Searle and made Searle Pharmaceuticals and The NutraSweet Company separate subsidiaries.

    Aspartame accounts for over 75 percent of the adverse reactions to food additives reported to the FDA. Many of these reactions are very serious including seizures and death. A few of the 90 different documented symptoms listed in the report as being caused by aspartame include: Headaches/migraines, dizziness, seizures, nausea, numbness, muscle spasms, weight gain, rashes, depression, fatigue, irritability, tachycardia, insomnia, vision problems, hearing loss, heart palpitations, breathing difficulties, anxiety attacks, slurred speech, loss of taste, tinnitus, vertigo, memory loss, and joint pain.

    According to researchers and physicians studying the adverse effects of aspartame, the following chronic illnesses can be triggered or worsened by ingesting of aspartame: Brain tumors, multiple sclerosis, epilepsy, chronic fatigue syndrome, parkinson's disease, alzheimer's, mental retardation, lymphoma, birth defects, fibromyalgia, and diabetes.

    Aspartame is made up of three chemicals: aspartic acid, phenylalanine, and methanol. The book "Prescription for Nutritional Healing," by James and Phyllis Balch, lists aspartame under the category of "chemical poison." As you shall see, that is exactly what it is.

    What Is Aspartame Made Of?
    Aspartic Acid (40 percent of Aspartame)

    Dr. Russell L. Blaylock, a professor of neurosurgery at the Medical University of Mississippi, recently published a book thoroughly detailing the damage that is caused by the ingestion of excessive aspartic acid from aspartame. Blaylock makes use of almost 500 scientific references to show how excess free excitatory amino acids such as aspartic acid and glutamic acid (about 99 percent of monosodium glutamate (MSG) is glutamic acid) in our food supply are causing serious chronic neurological disorders and a myriad of other acute symptoms.

    How Aspartate (and Glutamate) Cause Damage

    aspartateAspartate and glutamate act as neurotransmitters in the brain by facilitating the transmission of information from neuron to neuron. Too much aspartate or glutamate in the brain kills certain neurons by allowing the influx of too much calcium into the cells. This influx triggers excessive amounts of free radicals, which kill the cells. The neural cell damage that can be caused by excessive aspartate and glutamate is why they are referred to as "excitotoxins." They "excite" or stimulate the neural cells to death.

    Aspartic acid is an amino acid. Taken in its free form (unbound to proteins) it significantly raises the blood plasma level of aspartate and glutamate. The excess aspartate and glutamate in the blood plasma shortly after ingesting aspartame or products with free glutamic acid (glutamate precursor) leads to a high level of those neurotransmitters in certain areas of the brain.

    The blood brain barrier (BBB), which normally protects the brain from excess glutamate and aspartate as well as toxins, 1) is not fully developed during childhood, 2) does not fully protect all areas of the brain, 3) is damaged by numerous chronic and acute conditions, and 4) allows seepage of excess glutamate and aspartate into the brain even when intact.

    The excess glutamate and aspartate slowly begin to destroy neurons. The large majority (75 percent or more) of neural cells in a particular area of the brain are killed before any clinical symptoms of a chronic illness are noticed. A few of the many chronic illnesses that have been shown to be contributed to by long-term exposure to excitatory amino acid damage include:

    Multiple sclerosis (MS)
    ALS
    Memory loss
    Hormonal problems
    Hearing loss
    Epilepsy
    Alzheimer's disease



    Parkinson's disease
    Hypoglycemia
    AIDS
    Dementia
    Brain lesions
    Neuroendocrine disorders

    The risk to infants, children, pregnant women, the elderly and persons with certain chronic health problems from excitotoxins are great. Even the Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology (FASEB), which usually understates problems and mimics the FDA party-line, recently stated in a review that:

    "It is prudent to avoid the use of dietary supplements of L-glutamic acid by pregnant women, infants, and children. The existence of evidence of potential endocrine responses, i.e., elevated cortisol and prolactin, and differential responses between males and females, would also suggest a neuroendocrine link and that supplemental L-glutamic acid should be avoided by women of childbearing age and individuals with affective disorders."

    Aspartic acid from aspartame has the same deleterious effects on the body as glutamic acid.

    The exact mechanism of acute reactions to excess free glutamate and aspartate is currently being debated. As reported to the FDA, those reactions include:

    aspartame effect

    Headaches/migraines
    Nausea
    Abdominal pains
    Fatigue (blocks sufficient glucose entry into brain)
    Sleep problems
    Vision problems
    Anxiety attacks
    Depression
    Asthma/chest tigShtness.

    One common complaint of persons suffering from the effect of aspartame is memory loss. Ironically, in 1987, G.D. Searle, the manufacturer of aspartame, undertook a search for a drug to combat memory loss caused by excitatory amino acid damage. Blaylock is one of many scientists and physicians who are concerned about excitatory amino acid damage caused by ingestion of aspartame and MSG.

    A few of the many experts who have spoken out against the damage being caused by aspartate and glutamate include Adrienne Samuels, Ph.D., an experimental psychologist specializing in research design. Another is Olney, a professor in the department of psychiatry, School of Medicine, Washington University, a neuroscientist and researcher, and one of the world's foremost authorities on excitotoxins. (He informed Searle in 1971 that aspartic acid caused holes in the brains of mice.)

    Phenylalanine (50 percent of aspartame)

    Don't let artificial sweeteners fool you! Order now and find out the risks of using aspartame. Phenylalanine is an amino acid normally found in the brain. Persons with the genetic disorder phenylketonuria (PKU) cannot metabolize phenylalanine. This leads to dangerously high levels of phenylalanine in the brain (sometimes lethal). It has been shown that ingesting aspartame, especially along with carbohydrates, can lead to excess levels of phenylalanine in the brain even in persons who do not have PKU.

    This is not just a theory, as many people who have eaten large amounts of aspartame over a long period of time and do not have PKU have been shown to have excessive levels of phenylalanine in the blood. Excessive levels of phenylalanine in the brain can cause the levels of seratonin in the brain to decrease, leading to emotional disorders such as depression. It was shown in human testing that phenylalanine levels of the blood were increased significantly in human subjects who chronically used aspartame.

    Even a single use of aspartame raised the blood phenylalanine levels. In his testimony before the U.S. Congress, Dr. Louis J. Elsas showed that high blood phenylalanine can be concentrated in parts of the brain and is especially dangerous for infants and fetuses. He also showed that phenylalanine is metabolised much more effeciently by rodents than by humans.

    One account of a case of extremely high phenylalanine levels caused by aspartame was recently published the "Wednesday Journal" in an article titled "An Aspartame Nightmare." John Cook began drinking six to eight diet drinks every day. His symptoms started out as memory loss and frequent headaches. He began to crave more aspartame-sweetened drinks. His condition deteriorated so much that he experienced wide mood swings and violent rages. Even though he did not suffer from PKU, a blood test revealed a phenylalanine level of 80 mg/dl. He also showed abnormal brain function and brain damage. After he kicked his aspartame habit, his symptoms improved dramatically.

    As Blaylock points out in his book, early studies measuring phenylalanine buildup in the brain were flawed. Investigators who measured specific brain regions and not the average throughout the brain notice significant rises in phenylalanine levels. Specifically the hypothalamus, medulla oblongata, and corpus striatum areas of the brain had the largest increases in phenylalanine. Blaylock goes on to point out that excessive buildup of phenylalanine in the brain can cause schizophrenia or make one more susceptible to seizures.

    Therefore, long-term, excessive use of aspartame may provid a boost to sales of seratonin reuptake inhibitors such as Prozac and drugs to control schizophrenia and seizures.

    Methanol (aka wood alcohol/poison) (10 percent of aspartame)

    Methanol/wood alcohol is a deadly poison. Some people may remember methanol as the poison that has caused some "skid row" alcoholics to end up blind or dead. Methanol is gradually released in the small intestine when the methyl group of aspartame encounter the enzyme chymotrypsin.

    The absorption of methanol into the body is sped up considerably when free methanol is ingested. Free methanol is created from aspartame when it is heated to above 86 Fahrenheit (30 Centigrade). This would occur when aspartame-containing product is improperly stored or when it is heated (e.g., as part of a "food" product such as Jello).

    methanolMethanol breaks down into formic acid and formaldehyde in the body. Formaldehyde is a deadly neurotoxin. An EPA assessment of methanol states that methanol "is considered a cumulative poison due to the low rate of excretion once it is absorbed. In the body, methanol is oxidized to formaldehyde and formic acid; both of these metabolites are toxic." They recommend a limit of consumption of 7.8 mg/day. A one-liter (approx. 1 quart) aspartame-sweetened beverage contains about 56 mg of methanol. Heavy users of aspartame-containing products consume as much as 250 mg of methanol daily or 32 times the EPA limit.

    Symptoms from methanol poisoning include headaches, ear buzzing, dizziness, nausea, gastrointestinal disturbances, weakness, vertigo, chills, memory lapses, numbness and shooting pains in the extremities, behavioral disturbances, and neuritis. The most well known problems from methanol poisoning are vision problems including misty vision, progressive contraction of visual fields, blurring of vision, obscuration of vision, retinal damage, and blindness. Formaldehyde is a known carcinogen, causes retinal damage, interferes with DNA replication and causes birth defects.

    Due to the lack of a couple of key enzymes, humans are many times more sensitive to the toxic effects of methanol than animals. Therefore, tests of aspartame or methanol on animals do not accurately reflect the danger for humans. As pointed out by Dr. Woodrow C. Monte, director of the food science and nutrition laboratory at Arizona State University, "There are no human or mammalian studies to evaluate the possible mutagenic, teratogenic or carcinogenic effects of chronic administration of methyl alcohol."

    He was so concerned about the unresolved safety issues that he filed suit with the FDA requesting a hearing to address these issues. He asked the FDA to "slow down on this soft drink issue long enough to answer some of the important questions. It's not fair that you are leaving the full burden of proof on the few of us who are concerned and have such limited resources. You must remember that you are the American public's last defense. Once you allow usage (of aspartame) there is literally nothing I or my colleagues can do to reverse the course. Aspartame will then join saccharin, the sulfiting agents, and God knows how many other questionable compounds enjoined to insult the human constitution with governmental approval." Shortly thereafter, the Commissioner of the FDA, Arthur Hull Hayes, Jr., approved the use of aspartame in carbonated beverages, he then left for a position with G.D. Searle's public relations firm.

    It has been pointed out that some fruit juices and alcoholic beverages contain small amounts of methanol. It is important to remember, however, that methanol never appears alone. In every case, ethanol is present, usually in much higher amounts. Ethanol is an antidote for methanol toxicity in humans. The troops of Desert Storm were "treated" to large amounts of aspartame-sweetened beverages, which had been heated to over 86 degrees F in the Saudi Arabian sun. Many of them returned home with numerous disorders similar to what has been seen in persons who have been chemically poisoned by formaldehyde. The free methanol in the beverages may have been a contributing factor in these illnesses. Other breakdown products of aspartame such as DKP (discussed below) may also have been a factor.

    In a 1993 act that can only be described as "unconscionable," the FDA approved aspartame as an ingredient in numerous food items that would always be heated to above 86 degree F (30 degree C).

    Diketopiperazine (DKP)

    DKP is a byproduct of aspartame metabolism. DKP has been implicated in the occurrence of brain tumors. Olney noticed that DKP, when nitrosated in the gut, produced a compound that was similar to N-nitrosourea, a powerful brain tumor causing chemical. Some authors have said that DKP is produced after aspartame ingestion. I am not sure if that is correct. It is definitely true that DKP is formed in liquid aspartame-containing products during prolonged storage.

    G.D. Searle conducted animal experiments on the safety of DKP. The FDA found numerous experimental errors occurred, including "clerical errors, mixed-up animals, animals not getting drugs they were supposed to get, pathological specimens lost because of improper handling," and many other errors. These sloppy laboratory procedures may explain why both the test and control animals had sixteen times more brain tumors than would be expected in experiments of this length.

    In an ironic twist, shortly after these experimental errors were discovered, the FDA used guidelines recommended by G.D. Searle to develop the industry-wide FDA standards for good laboratory practices.

    DKP has also been implicated as a cause of uterine polyps and changes in blood cholesterol by FDA Toxicologist Dr. Jacqueline Verrett in her testimony before the U.S. Senate.

    Now you can look up Fluride and Glutamate which are also Dangerous and should be avoided!!!!
  • diodelcibo
    diodelcibo Posts: 2,564 Member
    Lmao heard that story before
  • BigBigBertha
    BigBigBertha Posts: 208 Member
    To be slightly less mean (but only slightly), aspartame has been proven safe for use (except by phenylketuronic-sensitive folks) in over 90 countries, it has been proven safe in innumerable studies over many decades, and the only time its safety was every called into question was not because of negative reactions, but because of a formality (the FDA wasn't satisfied with the methodology of the original safety studies).

    Ever considered how influential a company coca cola is worldwide?
  • Maxibris
    Maxibris Posts: 61 Member
    Aspartame causes cancer the same way sugar causes diabetes. As in yeah if you are sucking it down almost exclusively you will definitely have problems.
  • bathsheba_c
    bathsheba_c Posts: 1,873 Member
    Oh, well, if you can copy and paste 20 paragraphs of made up facts and statistics, when clearly it must be true. :noway:

    I suggest everyone crying about aspartame being poison check out the extremely well-cited article on aspartame at Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame

    Here's the short version:
    -Although formaldehyde and formic acid are created during the breakdown of aspartame, the formic acid is excreted faster than it is produced. Furthermore, you can get a higher concentration of these from many fruit juices than you can from aspartame beverages.
    -The FDA concluded that the flaws in the original safety tests were so minor as to not affect the validity of the final results
    -The GAO then examined claims that the FDA had a conflict of interest and found none
    -The CDC has conducted its own research and found no connections between aspartame and various illnesses
    -The EU issued continent-wide approval of aspartame in 1994, reviewing the safety studies and appropriate consumption level in 2002 and 2006, respectively
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    Wait! Wait! Let me get my tinfoil hat on!!

    Ok, it's on. Proceed.
  • bathsheba_c
    bathsheba_c Posts: 1,873 Member
    To be slightly less mean (but only slightly), aspartame has been proven safe for use (except by phenylketuronic-sensitive folks) in over 90 countries, it has been proven safe in innumerable studies over many decades, and the only time its safety was every called into question was not because of negative reactions, but because of a formality (the FDA wasn't satisfied with the methodology of the original safety studies).

    Ever considered how influential a company coca cola is worldwide?

    So, what you are saying is that there is a global conspiracy by the soda companies to poison us all, despite there being other non-nutritive sweeteners they could use?
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  • bathsheba_c
    bathsheba_c Posts: 1,873 Member
    is this some kind of sales pitch? or promotion?

    No, it's a conspiracy by the global soda companies to promote non-diet soda.
  • professorRAT
    professorRAT Posts: 690 Member
    Posting things like this is irresponsible and disrespectful to those of us who suffer from these auto-immune diseases. I don't consume anything with Aspartame, never did (just not a soda drinker, etc). So what do I cut out to make my diseases go away? Stop posting crap like this.

    If it is a load of rubbish, how on earth could it be "worth posting"? And yes, it is a load of rubbish.

    edited to add: also disrespectful to all of those hard-working scientists who study such things.
  • MSeel1984
    MSeel1984 Posts: 2,297 Member


    Now you can look up Fluride and Glutamate which are also Dangerous and should be avoided!!!!

    Oh hon...you should be careful what you read.

    Fluoride (correct spelling) is important in preventing cavities.

    Glutamic Acid is an amino acid important for metabolism and as a neurotransmitter.

    I'm hoping you're trolling here or otherwise you're misinformed...and rather gullible.
  • AlsDonkBoxSquat
    AlsDonkBoxSquat Posts: 6,128 Member
    When it comes to spam emails I have 1 word for you: snopes
  • pamwhite712
    pamwhite712 Posts: 193 Member
    I guess you got your answer. NO.
  • AlsDonkBoxSquat
    AlsDonkBoxSquat Posts: 6,128 Member
    Posting things like this is irresponsible and disrespectful to those of us who suffer from these auto-immune diseases. I don't consume anything with Aspartame, never did (just not a soda drinker, etc). So what do I cut out to make my diseases go away? Stop posting crap like this.

    If it is a load of rubbish, how on earth could it be "worth posting"? And yes, it is a load of rubbish.

    Over react much? Posting something suggestin that cutting out a non-essential food product is neither irresponsible nor disrespectful. Post that if you have this you can go to a back alley doctor in some 3rd world country and have the evil dispelled through your belly button would be an example of something irresponsible, as would suggesting rubbing ammonia on your eyes to cure headaches. Telling people that they're medically proven illnesses are just a figment of their imaginations and they should just suck it up would be disrespectful. Posting some harmless information suggesting people remove aspartame from their diet without solid support outside of a spam email without at least snoping it first is ignorant, but not harmful.
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  • stackhsc
    stackhsc Posts: 439 Member
    When it comes to spam emails I have 1 word for you: snopes

    I was just going to say this. I know people tend to have the best of intentions by forwarding stuff like this, but seriously do your research before posting or forwarding to verify, dont believe it if someone in the email tells you they verified it, verify it yourself. There are loads of trusting souls out there who dont think to verify stuff like this and take it on face value.

    I am here to tell you that i drink 1-2 liters of diet soda a day to keep me feeling full, I tried it with water and i just wont drink enough to keep feeling full. If it is bad for you im willing to take the risk that the benefits of losing 120 lbs because of having diet drinks available to me far outweighs any negatives the drink MAY have.
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  • bwallace2012
    bwallace2012 Posts: 37 Member
    thanks for sharing. already knew it, already believe it. have done my homework.

    and to those who don't - rock on. you can have my share.
  • professorRAT
    professorRAT Posts: 690 Member
    Posting things like this is irresponsible and disrespectful to those of us who suffer from these auto-immune diseases. I don't consume anything with Aspartame, never did (just not a soda drinker, etc). So what do I cut out to make my diseases go away? Stop posting crap like this.

    If it is a load of rubbish, how on earth could it be "worth posting"? And yes, it is a load of rubbish.

    Over react much? Posting something suggestin that cutting out a non-essential food product is neither irresponsible nor disrespectful. Post that if you have this you can go to a back alley doctor in some 3rd world country and have the evil dispelled through your belly button would be an example of something irresponsible, as would suggesting rubbing ammonia on your eyes to cure headaches. Telling people that they're medically proven illnesses are just a figment of their imaginations and they should just suck it up would be disrespectful. Posting some harmless information suggesting people remove aspartame from their diet without solid support outside of a spam email without at least snoping it first is ignorant, but not harmful.

    No. It is horrible to have autoimmune disease and they are extremely serious. If i did not obtain the proper treatment when I did I would have likely died by now (the survival rate for my disease untreated is 5% at 5 years). So, telling people that they can cure themselves by stopping drinking diet soda, if they are stupid enough to believe it (and lots of people appear to be), can cause them to NOT seek treatment known to be effective, These diseases kill people quickly if not treated. It is very serious. THIS POST SUGGESTS THIS IS A CURE FOR THESE DISEASES. I have seen many people seek "alternative" cures for my rare disease because they don't like the side effect of the traditional (and effective) treatments. I am doing well. They are not. So, it is more similar to your third world example than you realize.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    If it's rubbish, then it's not worth posting. And yes, this is rubbish.
  • AlsDonkBoxSquat
    AlsDonkBoxSquat Posts: 6,128 Member
    Posting things like this is irresponsible and disrespectful to those of us who suffer from these auto-immune diseases. I don't consume anything with Aspartame, never did (just not a soda drinker, etc). So what do I cut out to make my diseases go away? Stop posting crap like this.

    If it is a load of rubbish, how on earth could it be "worth posting"? And yes, it is a load of rubbish.

    Over react much? Posting something suggestin that cutting out a non-essential food product is neither irresponsible nor disrespectful. Post that if you have this you can go to a back alley doctor in some 3rd world country and have the evil dispelled through your belly button would be an example of something irresponsible, as would suggesting rubbing ammonia on your eyes to cure headaches. Telling people that they're medically proven illnesses are just a figment of their imaginations and they should just suck it up would be disrespectful. Posting some harmless information suggesting people remove aspartame from their diet without solid support outside of a spam email without at least snoping it first is ignorant, but not harmful.

    No. It is horrible to have autoimmune disease and they are extremely serious. If i did not obtain the proper treatment when I did I would have likely died by now (the survival rate for my disease untreated is 5% at 5 years). So, telling people that they can cure themselves by stopping drinking diet soda, if they are stupid enough to believe it (and lots of people appear to be), can cause them to NOT seek treatment known to be effective, These diseases kill people quickly if not treated. It is very serious. THIS POST SUGGESTS THIS IS A CURE FOR THESE DISEASES. I have seen many people seek "alternative" cures for my rare disease because they don't like the side effect of the traditional (and effective) treatments. I am doing well. They are not. So, it is more similar to your third world example than you realize.

    Sorry, you seem to be (incorrectly) under the impression that you alone suffer from autoimmune disorders and I have no idea what you're talking about. We lost my bil to complications from his last year, hubs grandmother from hers, so you are not alone and I am not ignorant. I saw no where in the fabricated article where it said that removing this non-essential food product was a guarantee of a cure or a guarantee that it is causing your illness or that you should stop consuming it and simultaneously discontinue your medical treatment. So yes, I do think that you're misrepresenting words like "disrespectful" and "irresponsible" and that while the op does need to read more carefully and do a little research because the next time it could be either of those things, they do not deserve you attacking them.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    To be slightly less mean (but only slightly), aspartame has been proven safe for use (except by phenylketuronic-sensitive folks) in over 90 countries, it has been proven safe in innumerable studies over many decades, and the only time its safety was every called into question was not because of negative reactions, but because of a formality (the FDA wasn't satisfied with the methodology of the original safety studies).

    Ever considered how influential a company coca cola is worldwide?

    They are NOT very influential, else we would already have diet Coke made with Truvia. The FDA is fighting them tooth and nail.
  • bathsheba_c
    bathsheba_c Posts: 1,873 Member
    Posting things like this is irresponsible and disrespectful to those of us who suffer from these auto-immune diseases. I don't consume anything with Aspartame, never did (just not a soda drinker, etc). So what do I cut out to make my diseases go away? Stop posting crap like this.

    If it is a load of rubbish, how on earth could it be "worth posting"? And yes, it is a load of rubbish.

    Over react much? Posting something suggestin that cutting out a non-essential food product is neither irresponsible nor disrespectful. Post that if you have this you can go to a back alley doctor in some 3rd world country and have the evil dispelled through your belly button would be an example of something irresponsible, as would suggesting rubbing ammonia on your eyes to cure headaches. Telling people that they're medically proven illnesses are just a figment of their imaginations and they should just suck it up would be disrespectful. Posting some harmless information suggesting people remove aspartame from their diet without solid support outside of a spam email without at least snoping it first is ignorant, but not harmful.

    No. It is horrible to have autoimmune disease and they are extremely serious. If i did not obtain the proper treatment when I did I would have likely died by now (the survival rate for my disease untreated is 5% at 5 years). So, telling people that they can cure themselves by stopping drinking diet soda, if they are stupid enough to believe it (and lots of people appear to be), can cause them to NOT seek treatment known to be effective, These diseases kill people quickly if not treated. It is very serious. THIS POST SUGGESTS THIS IS A CURE FOR THESE DISEASES. I have seen many people seek "alternative" cures for my rare disease because they don't like the side effect of the traditional (and effective) treatments. I am doing well. They are not. So, it is more similar to your third world example than you realize.

    Sorry, you seem to be (incorrectly) under the impression that you alone suffer from autoimmune disorders and I have no idea what you're talking about. We lost my bil to complications from his last year, hubs grandmother from hers, so you are not alone and I am not ignorant. I saw no where in the fabricated article where it said that removing this non-essential food product was a guarantee of a cure or a guarantee that it is causing your illness or that you should stop consuming it and simultaneously discontinue your medical treatment. So yes, I do think that you're misrepresenting words like "disrespectful" and "irresponsible" and that while the op does need to read more carefully and do a little research because the next time it could be either of those things, they do not deserve you attacking them.

    Um, did we read the same article? Half of the article was about how most instances of multiple sclerosis or lupus are really just aspartame poisoning, and that the symptoms will go away if you stop drinking diet soda.