This may be a load of rubbish but worth posting
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Any soda, if drank every day constantly with nothing else, is going to be harmful for you in the long run!
I'm allergic to aspartame so I get very, VERY sick whenever I consume it, but I have friends who practically live off diet soda and the like and they're perfectly fine. Not going to be great for them in said long run, but it's all down to you sensitivity wise
Ditto. Artificial sweeteners of any kind do have potential side effects and allergy reactions. I get nausea, migraine, rash and my vision goes crazy if I ingest them. Personally I think "the way nature intended" or "chemicals from the lab". When it comes to something as simple as a sweetener (which you're only supposed to use in moderation anyway) I'll stick to the raw sugar or honey.
But because honey can cause botulism in babies, it's gonna kill us all!!! Didn't you get the email?
Well, last I checked, no one gets out alive. :drinker:
(But, no babies should not have honey before their doctor okays them)0 -
Oooo, popcorn with this thread...
Did you hear the artificial butter causes your insides to turn to mush and leak out.... It's true, my cousin's friend's aunt's mechanic's hooker's pimp's doctor said so... :laugh:0 -
Any soda, if drank every day constantly with nothing else, is going to be harmful for you in the long run!
I'm allergic to aspartame so I get very, VERY sick whenever I consume it, but I have friends who practically live off diet soda and the like and they're perfectly fine. Not going to be great for them in said long run, but it's all down to you sensitivity wise
Ditto. Artificial sweeteners of any kind do have potential side effects and allergy reactions. I get nausea, migraine, rash and my vision goes crazy if I ingest them. Personally I think "the way nature intended" or "chemicals from the lab". When it comes to something as simple as a sweetener (which you're only supposed to use in moderation anyway) I'll stick to the raw sugar or honey.
But because honey can cause botulism in babies, it's gonna kill us all!!! Didn't you get the email?
Well, last I checked, no one gets out alive. :drinker:
(But, no babies should not have honey before their doctor okays them)
Obviously they shouldn't. My point was more that just because something can have a negative impact on one group of people doesn't mean that it's going to kill everyone, which is what crap like this 'article' suggests.0 -
Aspartame use coincided with an increase in global warming. Global warming increases thirst. Increased thirst leads to greater aspartame consumption. We're doomed.0
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I enjoy a diet soda occasionally (regular soda is too sweet for me), but I have noticed that it will give me a headache and/or kind of a light-headed "sick" feeling if I have it two or more days in a row. A few months ago my husband accidentally bought diet soda for his lunches, which he hates, and not wanting to be wasteful, I was drinking it more often than usual. Not good.0
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Aspartame use coincided with an increase in global warming. Global warming increases thirst. Increased thirst leads to greater aspartame consumption. We're doomed.
Flawless logic!!!!0 -
ok ok ok i get your message... like i said at the beginning of the message, i don;t want to be slammed as i know nothing about this i just thought it was an interesting read and thought i would post here for others to read as i don;t know whether its true or not... but thankfully you have put me straight... thanks for that and have a nice day.
Check snopes.com next time first:
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I was never diagnosed with anything, and I'm not on either side of the "truth" of this article. This is just my .02. I got fat in middle and high school by drinking real coke every day. I knew I needed to change something and switching to diet seemed like the cure (hahahah not quite, 17 year old me wasn't super informed). I drank diet soda religiously for about seven years, eventually tricking myself into thinking I preferred the taste. Not so for energy drinks or coffee or anything else, in those I never could stand fake sweetener. In that time span, I lost 60 lbs and developed a lot of heath problems. I had bone pains I'd never had, and unexplained nerve pain. The first specialist I saw in Germany (where I was studying at the time) told me it was arthritis. Months later after I returned to the US, no one could offer a different diagnosis. Senior year in college I would get migraines without diet coke- not caffeine migraines, diet coke migraines. I worked out every day and could not lose weight. Then having unlimited free pop at my restaurant job after college made it too accessible.
I quit that job for other reasons, and quit non-necessary purchases like diet Coke. My mom gives me fair trade coffee and things, so I still had my caffeine fix. Now I drink water, coffee with organic milk, tea, and real juice. I feel better than I have since I was a three-season athlete 11 years ago in middle school. My pain is getting better, I'm not sick all the time, my two year plateau ended. So what changed? I quit aspartame completely. I left a physically and emotionally stressful job, but not I have more financial stress. I started working out again, but I was never inactive before. Started living with my boyfriend. I had an appendectomy. I cut back on a lot of other foods but indulge responsibly and have quit alcohol until St Paddy's day (I do this every year from New Years- Padd'ys to detox for summer haha. I don't like to be a heavy drinker, so I lower my tolerance before BBQ season and my birthday).
TLDR/Conclusion: the only thing completely gone from my life is aspartame. Well, and my appendix. I don't miss either. I feel a sense of wellness. I see absolutely zero benefits to having soda in my life at all, whether diet or not. It makes me burp and makes my teeth feel icky anyways. But I've altered a lot of other parts of my life which contribute to overall health.0 -
professorRAT aren't you just the special snowflake. Since this poison does not affect you, it should not be posted? What if someone reads this post and realizes they are one of the 'non-special snowflakes' that this poison does affect?0
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Yes, there's stuff to prove and refute this. There's also stuff to prove and refute, oh, ANYTHING. I don't give in to scare tactics. In fact, I'm sick and tired of them. Pretty much everything we put into our bodies has been, at some point, proven to be harmful to some group of people at some time.
This crap is like religion, there's no truth, we just choose what to believe out of fear, or what resonates within us.0 -
professorRAT aren't you just the special snowflake. Since this poison does not affect you, it should not be posted? What if someone reads this post and realizes they are one of the 'non-special snowflakes' that this poison does affect?
I think you've got the "special snowflake" metaphor backward.
"The potential health risks have been examined and dismissed by numerous scientific research projects. With the exception of the risk to those with phenylketonuria, aspartame is considered to be a safe food additive by governments, worldwide, and major health and food safety organizations.[2][10][11][12][13] with FDA officials describing aspartame as "one of the most thoroughly tested and studied food additives the agency has ever approved" and its safety as "clear cut".[4] The weight of existing scientific evidence indicates that aspartame is safe as a non-nutritive sweetener."
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Except for for those that it is poison.0
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Except for for those that it is poison.
You mean like all of that research that says high protein intake will cause your kidneys to fail, and explode, while giving you a case of herpes in the process?
Oh, and those that say bananas cause belly fat?
I want you to imagine the most preposterous thing you can come up with...now look for a study that would validate it. I can almost assure you that you will find at least one.0 -
This is just awesome. Can't wait til I publish my first paper...0 -
One thing you should remember...
While yes this might be an informative article or a possible medical reason as to why someone is the way they are....what are the statistics from person to person of having these sensitivities. This is kind of like someone being allergic to something and preaching not to eat something all because they get sick from it.
There will always been someone who is over sensitive to a food, or enviroment conditon, etc...
I think your post would have been recieved better if it was focused around that possibility rather than saying it is deadly to all who eat it.
edited it because the first part made no sense ROFL...sorry...long day lol0 -
I take pretty much every one of these studies, findings, etc.. with a grain of salt.
I wouldn't be able to eat anything if I avoided everything I've ever heard "possibly" correlated with cancer.
On the topic of cancer though.. you know.. I think pretty much if you're going to get it, you're going to get it. I have an aunt who died a couple of years back. She had cancer twice in her life and never did any of the activities that are most correlated with promoting cancer. My mom, on the other hand, has been smoking for.. gawd, probably not all that far from half a century now, and nothing. My dad smoked for 35 years, chewed for another 20, and no cancer. He has battled heart issues of late but I attribute that more to his poor dietary habits and mismanagement of his diabetes.
Some people can benefit from cutting this or that from their diet, but the majority are not going to be harmed by most of these things.0 -
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I'm convinced that hubby's diet coke habit contributed to him developing hon-Hodgkins lymphoma.0 -
professorRAT aren't you just the special snowflake. Since this poison does not affect you, it should not be posted? What if someone reads this post and realizes they are one of the 'non-special snowflakes' that this poison does affect?
This makes no sense at all. You clearly have a problem understanding scientific evidence.0 -
professorRAT aren't you just the special snowflake. Since this poison does not affect you, it should not be posted? What if someone reads this post and realizes they are one of the 'non-special snowflakes' that this poison does affect?
This makes no sense at all. You clearly have a problem understanding scientific evidence.
Also, I never said it didn't affect me. I have never consumed anything with aspartame in it. If you read my posts you would have known that. The post implies removing this from your diet will cure you if you have an autoimmune disease. That is completely unfounded and irresponsible (not to mention lazy not to do a 5 second google search on the post) to make this claim. So, yes, if a claim suggesting a cure for a serious disease is unjustified via scientific evidence it should not be posted. Did you even read this thread at all?0 -
Well that's taught me a lesson, story if I have caused offence it was not intentional and I don't think I will be raising a new topic anytime soon.....0
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To be slightly less mean (but only slightly), aspartame has been proven safe for use (except by phenylketuronic-sensitive folks) in over 90 countries, it has been proven safe in innumerable studies over many decades, and the only time its safety was every called into question was not because of negative reactions, but because of a formality (the FDA wasn't satisfied with the methodology of the original safety studies).
Yeah Aspartame has been proven safe by the very people who are MAKING MONEY FROM IT. The Soda companies do studies that have proven sodas don't cause obesity, same with the corn industry, and the sugar industry.
Independent studies tend to be a little different. Personally, I developed bad reactions to the stuff over time.
Not that I'm looking to provide a bunch of sources as to why people are right or wrong.. as it's been pointed out, this is the argument that won't die, and there is plenty of written material providing support for either side, but there are things on the market now that are killing people and big companies don't really care. If you sue them for a wrongful death, it's a drop in the bucket compared to the total amount of money they're making, and that's the bottom line.0 -
I haven't bothered to read all the post from people who refuse to accept that diet does impact our health, that auto immune disease can be cause by leaky gut and quite frankly any of you who are sick (yes me included) should be doing everything you can to recover! Did you know that they have research that proves you can starve cancer with a ketogenic diet, that you can stop epileptic fits with keto diet..... You can continue living your lives blindly ignoring that the food you eat does affect how your body works, go ahead but i want to live my life. No food, no artificial sweetener or genetically modified food etc is worth being that sick for!0
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For those of you who think your government knows best: www.foodpolitics.com. Get educated!0
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Your slating this women for advising you not to consume artificial sweeteners that have been proven to destroy brain cells in unborn children? That triggers many auto immune disease flare ups? Shame on you. For somebody that claims to live by science based research .... Your not very educated in the matter!0
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Your slating this women for advising you not to consume artificial sweeteners that have been proven to destroy brain cells in unborn children? That triggers many auto immune disease flare ups? Shame on you. For somebody that claims to live by science based research .... Your not very educated in the matter!
No. You are incorrect. This is a well studied issue and the scientific community has arrived at a consensus.
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/aspartame-truth-vs-fiction/
http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/faqs/faqaspartame.htm#3
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/artificial-sweeteners/MY00073
Also, concluding that something that may be bad for unborn children is bad for adults to consume suggests quite strongly that you do not understand how to correctly examine scientific evidence and draw conclusions from it. Sorry, but i am educated in that matter.0 -
I DON'T AGREE...MY GRANDMA WAS DIAGNOSED WITH MS AT 64 AND SHE WASN'T A DIET SODA DRINKER...0
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