Eating before exercise

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  • twelfty
    twelfty Posts: 576 Member
    when did we start talking about gaining muscle?

    someone post the head exploding GIF


    it's on his profile he intends to lose weight then gain muscle
  • lasmit4477
    lasmit4477 Posts: 308 Member
    watch what happens when you start trying to build muscle tricksee as you clearly haven't got an ounce of it on you, i don't need to explain myself, i've been there and done it a few years back, day in day out (but not because of the fad i just wasn't eating) it's a poor system, you will lose most if not all muscle, and be what doctors call "skinny fat" muscle goes much before fat, and if you do weights while doing this you won't gain a decent amount of muscle

    but considering how dumb you are i actually say to you carry on mate! and when you can't lift a 2lb dumbell more than 6 times in a day come tell me how great your idea was :laugh:

    i'll stick to gaining muscle the right way and enjoy looking good from it :wink:


    Wooohhhhh now! No need to call names! Calm down!

    Plus, one would need to be in a calorie surplus to gain muscle mass. That may not be the intent of the individual. Do what works for you and jump of your barbie whine session!
  • twelfty
    twelfty Posts: 576 Member
    and i'd point out too that by losing muscle weight might make you feel better as it's really easy to lose quickly, it's not the same as genuinely losing fat, and by not fueling and feeding excersize you will lose muscle first
  • twelfty
    twelfty Posts: 576 Member
    watch what happens when you start trying to build muscle tricksee as you clearly haven't got an ounce of it on you, i don't need to explain myself, i've been there and done it a few years back, day in day out (but not because of the fad i just wasn't eating) it's a poor system, you will lose most if not all muscle, and be what doctors call "skinny fat" muscle goes much before fat, and if you do weights while doing this you won't gain a decent amount of muscle

    but considering how dumb you are i actually say to you carry on mate! and when you can't lift a 2lb dumbell more than 6 times in a day come tell me how great your idea was :laugh:

    i'll stick to gaining muscle the right way and enjoy looking good from it :wink:


    Wooohhhhh now! No need to call names! Calm down!

    Plus, one would need to be in a calorie surplus to gain muscle mass. That may not be the intent of the individual. Do what works for you and jump of your barbie whine session!

    sigh... there's no barbie whine session, and i can't be arsed to go into what you just said lol... some google tips for you:

    the calories burnt while doing strength training compared to cardio

    the calories of protein compared to carbs (protein being a decent part of gaining muscle)

    not to mention lowering carbs and it's benefits in losing weight
  • No_Finish_Line
    No_Finish_Line Posts: 3,661 Member
    i got learn how to post that GIF myself
  • thirstyflea
    thirstyflea Posts: 114 Member
    I've always been told something to eat something 1 - 1-1/2 hours before I work out! My current trainer concurs, and it works really well for me, and I'm losing weight. I've tried not eating, and I literally fizzle out about 1/2 way through my work out (strength or cardio, doesn't matter). And trust me, I have fat to lose!

    I used to try an apple with peanut butter (carbs and protein), but I burned through the carbs too fast and would have a hypoglycemic rush (or something like that?), where I would get dizzy and/or nauseous after a tough exercise. So I started eating low sugar protein bars, and they've been working out great! I usually stick to bars with at least 15g of protein, sometimes up to 20g depending on the kind of workout I'm expecting. And of course they also have carbs, but with the higher protein, they seem to sustain me through any strength or cardio workout !!

    I'm on the infamous "1200 calorie" plan, and I fit the "extra" protein bar calories in just fine, as I need to eat some extra calories on work out days anyway.

    I guess everyone has something that works for them, but I would recommend if you eat, then do it at least an hour before so your body can process what you're feeding it and it will actually be effective.
  • twelfty
    twelfty Posts: 576 Member
    oh also have a google of gaining lean muscle... you'll find a great deal of info on the advances of weight lifting and the tired days of bulking and cutting

    which if you're clever.... you can lose weight and gain muscle (for a bloke mostly) women, cardio and diet is fine as they don't require muscle mass the same as blokes

    unless you're literally arnie doing X amount of workouts per day in which you would need a massive boost of calories however a half hour vigorous weight lifting session burns about 250 calories... even if you were on 1500 calories per day you could gain muscle mass if you ate the right foods........ being overweight that is
  • lasmit4477
    lasmit4477 Posts: 308 Member
    oh also have a google of gaining lean muscle... you'll find a great deal of info on the advances of weight lifting and the tired days of bulking and cutting

    which if you're clever.... you can lose weight and gain muscle (for a bloke mostly) women, cardio and diet is fine as they don't require muscle mass the same as blokes


    You are annoying! Sorry, but you are. :flowerforyou:

    Here is a little information and sorry, but "google" just doesn't provide actual science for my liking...just like Dr. Oz!! All metabolic processes are either anabolic or catabolic, in case you where unaware. To help support my statement, building muscle is anabolic process. It builds muscle proteins from amino acids ones bloodstream. However, storing fat is also an anabolic process and builds fat out of fatty acids.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/adding-muscle-while-losing-fat-qa.html

    Now, these are essentially 2 DIFFERENT processes my friend, being that one is catabolic and the other is anabolic. With the exceptions shown in the below link, they can't be done simultaneously. I never said that one could not develop and strengthen the muscle tissue that one already has while being in a calorie deficit to lose body fat. Adequate intake of protein and doing some type of strength training to preserve lean muscle mass is key. You can minimize losing some lean muscle mass, but you can't prevent it!
  • EmilyOfTheSun
    EmilyOfTheSun Posts: 1,548 Member
    I usually eat something small and carby like 30 mins before a workout. sometimes right before
  • twelfty
    twelfty Posts: 576 Member
    as i said i don't need to argue with you, the info is out there for you to find, and it's scientificly backed up

    SHOCK your link doesn't have any credible proof... it's a load of drivel and trying to sell a book :o


    EDIT - sorry 5 books lol....
  • thirstyflea
    thirstyflea Posts: 114 Member
    I almost forgot- I also try to eat something high in protein within 45 minutes AFTER my work out as well, as recommended by my cardio instructors and trainer. If I can't get to dinner fast enough, I usually drink a 100 calorie whey protein drink to help my muscles recover from the workout.
  • lasmit4477
    lasmit4477 Posts: 308 Member
    as i said i don't need to argue with you, the info is out there for you to find, and it's scientificly backed up

    SHOCK your link doesn't have any credible proof... it's a load of drivel and trying to sell a book :o


    Haha! Right on boss! You have a great day reading over your "facts" that you think are "scientificly" backed up. Enjoy your day!

    Edit for links:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3410632--May be helpful for the OP.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/general-philosophies-of-muscle-mass-gain.html---May be of interest to you.
  • Seaduck79
    Seaduck79 Posts: 35 Member
    You should figure out what works for YOUR body, and do that. Here is what works for me:

    If I were just doing weights, a light snack (banana or a protein shake) 30-60 minutes before works just fine. So does eating nothing at all.

    If I am doing cardio, and I don't mean 15 minutes on the elliptical, I mean running like 8-10 miles, I can't have anything but water or some electrolyte fluid in my stomach or I get cramps. 1 liter of water 20 minutes before, another during the run. If I were doing that later in the day, I would want to allow 3-4 hours after a carb meal, 5 after a heavy protein one.

    If you need to have something in your stomach before a workout, make it light, not a 3 egg bacon omelet or something that will sit there like a lump for hours. If your body is sending blood to your muscles for your workout, it can't focus on digesting what's in your stomach. That's why I keep those things separate.
  • wrotruck
    wrotruck Posts: 72 Member

    Please, explain how it's B.S. if it's working for them, and many many others?

    I too am working out in a fasted state and the results have been outstanding.

    Brief summary:
    Jan 14th I was 201.6.
    Next 2 weeks ate my B/L/D meals and worked out. I weight train and finish with 20 minutes of cardio, 6 days a week. Those 2 weeks I lost 4 pounds total.

    Then while researching different exercises on YT I came across intermittent fasting and decided it's worth a shot. I set my eating window at 1pm to 7pm.

    Today is Feb. 13th. One month ago I was 201.6. Today's weigh-in is 182.2. That's a total of 19.4 pounds.

    Two weeks to lose 4 pounds while eating 3-4 meals throughout the day --- or --- the last 2 weeks to lose 15 pounds while intermittent fasting.

    Sorry, but fasting works.

    There simply isn't enough info here to prove anything. What was your starting weight? And what is your goal weight? Did you change your workout routine? Did you measure body fat percentage?

    How do you know that you aren't sacrificing muscle?
  • carrieous
    carrieous Posts: 1,024 Member
    4 hrs would be way too long for me, i'm hungry every 3 hrs and would be too weak to have a good workout if i went 4 hours.

    full meals should be eaten at least an hour before exercise.

    its okay to have a snack such as ONE slice of whole grain toast with peanut butter 30 mins before working out but no more food than that or it should be considered a full meal.
  • ldbuster0
    ldbuster0 Posts: 207
    Some of these answers could really confuse a new person like me. Everyone has so many answers and just a bunch of arguing going on. What is a person to do? Seems like what information is given is what works for that particular person. I just try things and see if it works for me.
  • Pipil503
    Pipil503 Posts: 56 Member
    I MEANT UNHEALTHILY DEPENDENT ON FOOD!!!
    my badd!!!

    Sorry but you clearly didn't, it's obvious from the rest of your post what you're saying, arguing aside, it sounds like you do have some issues with food, it would be a good idea to do a good bit of reading up about food and the body, and before you go spouting off your insane perspective of food and it's use to humans as facts make sure it's correct. which it quite clearly isn't

    infact depending on who you're telling that **** to you could cause someone some damage similar to lernrach's experience, now that experience off a machine is dangerous enough but on a treadmill mid way at full pace you're talking serious injury... and if someone takes it as fact and doesn't deviate for a week because no one has corrected you the more likely that is to happen.

    Woah!! Relax #2 --- She is looking for advice which is exactly what #1 has given her. It's up to her to find out what works best for her. I have tried eating 6 meals a day while on a deficit and that s*** sucked!! Some of my meals were the size of my palm and that's it!! You know how hungry I was constantly!? Now I'm trying intermittent fasting and it is awesome!! I was never a breakfast type of dude so my meal window is between 12:00 and 20:00, between that time I can consume the caloric quantity I have allotted myself. Now my meals are nice and big, satiety!! I train fasted EVERY morning at 6:00 and supplement with BCAA's I have lost 21lbs since Jan 1st, but better yet! I have gone down almost 3 inches at my waist.

    I'd say it all depends on what her ultimate goal is.... just saying.
  • tricksee
    tricksee Posts: 835 Member
    Some of these answers could really confuse a new person like me. Everyone has so many answers and just a bunch of arguing going on. What is a person to do? Seems like what information is given is what works for that particular person. I just try things and see if it works for me.

    Try both for a week each and see which works best for you... :-)
  • Pipil503
    Pipil503 Posts: 56 Member
    4 hrs would be way too long for me, i'm hungry every 3 hrs and would be too weak to have a good workout if i went 4 hours.

    full meals should be eaten at least an hour before exercise.

    its okay to have a snack such as ONE slice of whole grain toast with peanut butter 30 mins before working out but no more food than that or it should be considered a full meal.

    I used to consume fruit and a small bit of oatmeal to give me that carb boost for training.
  • No_Finish_Line
    No_Finish_Line Posts: 3,661 Member
    Some of these answers could really confuse a new person like me. Everyone has so many answers and just a bunch of arguing going on. What is a person to do? Seems like what information is given is what works for that particular person. I just try things and see if it works for me.

    you'd think the forum would be a great place to find answers... and it is, especially if you want every possible answer, regardless of truth or accuracy.

    your best bet is to do your own research and make up your own mind.

    Trial and error is good too... as long as you evaluate honestly and within a reasonable amount of time.
  • Pipil503
    Pipil503 Posts: 56 Member
    I seem to have better gains when I am in a fasted state. Don't know if it makes me focus more or what. I can't eat (unless it's like a protein shake) earlier than an hour or so before a workout. Everyone is different though.

    i don't really understand what you mean by 'better gains when in a fasted state'.

    are we talking about losing weight or putting on muscle? cause i definetly don't see how fasting is going to help anyone put on muscle.

    With BCAA supplementation you are not breaking the fast and you are mitigating cortisol development throughout your entire body. If during your eating window you intake a caloric surplus it helps build muscle. So technically you can build muscle when "intermittently fasting".
  • Hellbent_Heidi
    Hellbent_Heidi Posts: 3,669 Member
    Ridiculous suggestion?! WHAT THE HELL?!! have you never heard of FASTED CARDIO?!
    THIS!! I do fasted cardio almost every morning, and have done so for years.

    It really all will depend on a number of things, including what time of day you would be exercising and how intense that exercise is.... I certainly wouldn't fast all day to workout in the afternoon, just like I wouldn't run a 5K immediately after eating..

    What is a ridiculous suggestion is to assume that there's one correct time to eat.. Use common sense and make sure you don't have blood sugar issues that might cause you to pass out, and you should be just fine!!
  • koko12
    koko12 Posts: 81 Member
    i eat 1.5hrs before workout and right after workout
  • No_Finish_Line
    No_Finish_Line Posts: 3,661 Member
    With BCAA supplementation you are not breaking the fast and you are mitigating cortisol development throughout your entire body. If during your eating window you intake a caloric surplus it helps build muscle. So technically you can build muscle when "intermittently fasting".

    thats fine, just doesn't make sense to me that you would both fast and eat at a surplus.

    whats the point?
  • TAMayorga
    TAMayorga Posts: 341 Member
    My big workouts (a fitness and tkd class) are in the evenings. starting at 8 pm twice a week and 7 pm once a week. If I eat past 5pm (4-4:30 on Sundays), or my meal is too large, I might just see that meal again. But, when I take these classes, I really push myself and kill it. Other times a week, I'm on the treadmill or doing yoga. Treadmill, I can eat just before and be fine. Yoga, I'd prefer to have a somewhat empty belly

    It's all personal preference

    Yes, definitely an empty belly for downward dog! :sick:
  • NualaTW
    NualaTW Posts: 205 Member
    I usually work out right after I get home from work in the evening. Usually about 3-ish in the afternoon (I get home around 5), I have a plain greek yogurt with flaxseed and some fruit. I just find that it helps give me a little energy boost and keep me from feeling hungry during my workout, when I should be focusing on what I'm doing. :)

    I then eat my dinner right after (at least 30 mins to 1 hour, depending on how long it takes me to prepare).
  • RobinvdM
    RobinvdM Posts: 634 Member
    I actually discussed this with my dietitian and she informed me there is no harm in eating pre-workout other than potential tummy aches from the diverted blood supply away from digestive system. Some people cramp up, some don't. I am a "don't." The food you have in your belly isn't going to be instantly digested simply because you worked out immediately afterwards - it doesn't process that fast so you'll still be burning stored fat.

    If you eat pre workout and find it makes things uncomfortable then tweak til you are ok again. It is your choice, there is no (AFAIK) "best way."

    good luck! :drinker:
  • djshari
    djshari Posts: 513 Member
    I usually eat a snack before depending on when I work out to help keep my blood sugar stable. Something small like a piece of string cheese or some almonds. Sometimes if I work out AFTER dinner I do not have a snack but by then it's only maybe a 2 hour gap as opposed to going right after work when it's been 6 hours since lunch.
  • AbsoluteNG
    AbsoluteNG Posts: 1,079 Member
    I have a friend who ate every 3 hours and he ate 30 mins right before his workout. He died of a heart attack.
  • tricksee
    tricksee Posts: 835 Member
    Hey guys, what's going on in this thread?
    a retarded liverpublian who sounds like a sufer dude from california spouting off as if he's an expert in weight loss when he quite clearly isn't and failing that barely knows what he's talking about.

    *leaves thread*

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