Logging 'food preparation?' /rant
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NEAT is actually a HUGE contributor to TDEE--sometimes more than actual exercise so logging those things can lead to increase accuracy.0
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Personally I don't log anything that I would have done when I was getting fatter - it did not stop me from getting fat - so why on earth would it now help me get thin!!
This. 100 times over.0 -
Does what they log affect your fitness goals?
No?
Then ok.0 -
what I want to know is, is this hindering YOUR progress? If not, then why do you care?0
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agreed, i barley like to add any exercise so i hit my macros better. People do this so they can eat more, I assume.0
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I burned 1500 calories just trying to chop up a butternut squash. Those bishes are hard.0
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Does shaving legs count?? :smokin:
Only if you're shaving other peoples legs in some kind of mad dash record breaking do or die attempt
Heck yeah it does you know how much work it takes me to get my 300lb bulk into a tub to shave those hairy beasts. I might have climbed Kilamangaro as much work as it takes me.0 -
Haven't seen that - pretty funny...
Maybe it was something super intense, like butchering a camel.
Or grinding sausage meat by hand.
Or squeezing a tonne of oranges by hand.
Or pulping grapes for wine by stamping on them.
Or kneading a massive amount of dough for one hour.
Or...ok, I'm just getting carried away now. I don't actually think it was any of those things, but it was fun to think about what would be worth logging.
you eat camel?
I would eat camel
camel is tasty!
i bet! i've eaten a lot of random stuff living in asia, but not camel. and i want to!
calories to protein ratio for camel seems pretty decent: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/generic-camel-meat-60775098 :-)0 -
I have a baking/pastry class once a week. It's 5 hours, and I'm usually running around the kitchen for about 4 hours of that time. Some of the equipment is really heavy. I might log a few hundred extra calories for that because it's out of the ordinary (100-200), but that's it.0
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I burned 1500 calories just trying to chop up a butternut squash. Those bishes are hard.
AMEN!0 -
I don't count stuff that I do on a daily basis, becuase my body is already used to burning those calories - but, for example, raking leaves and shoveling snow are things I don't ordinarily do that do provide a nice burn. Last fall when I raked leaves, I realized that I hadn't been working out all of my arm muscles, because I was sore in the upper arms and back the next day. A couple of years ago my town got almost two feet of snow over about 18 hours. I spent four hours SHOVELING (not snow blowing) layers of snow off the walk at not only my house, but seven of my neighbors' houses, and THEN we shoveled out close to 15 cars so they could be moved for the plow (which was difficult because the guy kept coming by and plowing us back in), and then walked a block through more snow to shovel out an elderly neighbor. I'm pretty sure that counts as a workout.
As for logging "food preparation," I don't log it when I'm making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich or something normal; I log it when I'm spending 30-45 minutes cooking, ESPECIALLY when I make cakes. The logic is as follows: I am a sitter; I like to do everything sitting down. When I make food, I'm standing up - which is already burning more calories than I normally do - but then I'm also moving around. I'm back and forth between drawers and bowls and the fridge and the cabinet. I also don't have a mixer (hand or stand mixer) so I mix all of my batters by hand. This may have been normal for my great grandmothers (and seeing how chunky my dad's side of the family is, I'm guessing his grandmothers had excellent arm muscles), but for me, stiring batter until it's all mixed in and clump-free is a decent arm workout - and I get both arms involved because it can be tiring.
When I joined MFP, I thought the idea of considering a day-to-day activity (like walking from the car to the house) an "exercise" was silly - but you have to realize that there are people who eat out three meals a day or don't leave the house very often and these small things actually do have an impact on them. You should also realize that there are people who log it as part of work; I was the cashier at a slow, yet seriously understaffed pizza place -- meaning that if we got an order for anything more than 2-3 pizzas at a time, I was also the cook, and sometimes the back-up delivery person. I could be running back and forth between phone calls and three different kitchens (one for pizza, one for salads and sandwiches, and the third for pastas and fried foods - and I mean run, because you can't miss a call or burn the food). While the average person shouldn't fool him/herself by including "food preparation" as a daily activity, it's hardly going to make a difference, because I'm guessing most people only spend as much time "prepping food" as it takes to make one meal. In other words, they probably don't get much out of logging it, because it's a small burn. All the same, if it bothers you that much, delete the people who do that.0 -
You burned approximately 5 calories typing this message. Assuming it took you around 5 minutes to type this, that is.
you should probably log that.0 -
You burned approximately 5 calories typing this message. Assuming it took you around 5 minutes to type this, that is.
you should probably log that.
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OK, I understand, but say someone weighs 300+ pounds, and really normally does NOTHING, all day. ANYTHING that they start doing, ie food prep, house work, is a plus to them. You can't judge someone else because you don't live their lives. And like someone else said...IF they are cheating anyone, its themselves....not you.
Its ok to rant...lol...I do it all the time :bigsmile:
Exactly...Maybe it's a big deal for someone very heavy and inactive. Every movement counts for them! More power to them!!0 -
You burned approximately 5 calories typing this message. Assuming it took you around 5 minutes to type this, that is.
you should probably log that.
:laugh:
Madam, you just burned 1.3 calories per a minute of laughter right there.
Add that to your writing and that response and we are looking at a whole 2.3 calories!!! Way to go!!!
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Honestly...why does it bother you what they do? Its not hurting you. It doesn't affect you at all.
It bothers me because these people want to change their lifestyle and are unhappy, but are just cheating themselves.
But it still isn't hurting you. They might be fooling and cheating themselves, but it still doesn't affect you. So why does it bother you what someone lese is doing when it has no impact on you.
There are things you care about (this appears to be one) and things you control (this isn't one). Wouldn't it make more sense to concentate your energy on things you care about AND control?
Of course, your rant doesn't really affect me--you're just getting yourself upset.0 -
Am I 'allowed' to log shoveling 8" of snow off two driveways?*
*Just kidding. I'm not really asking. I'll log whatever the hell I please.0 -
I can't answer for every one and I know you are not talking specifically about me (cause I don't know you at all). But in my case, I log food prep every so often because I work at a kitchen for my kids school. I do spend 3-4 hours that day on my feet, constantly moving and lifting heavy pans and kettles. But I usually only log half the actual time. Same thing with cleaning, my other job is to professionally and thoroughly detail the inside of Rvs, so when I spend 6-80 hours per day cleaning and climbing up and down, in and out of tight spaces, I log half that time.
I do agree though that some people over log.0 -
OK, I understand, but say someone weighs 300+ pounds, and really normally does NOTHING, all day. ANYTHING that they start doing, ie food prep, house work, is a plus to them. You can't judge someone else because you don't live their lives. And like someone else said...IF they are cheating anyone, its themselves....not you.
Its ok to rant...lol...I do it all the time :bigsmile:
Exactly...Maybe it's a big deal for someone very heavy and inactive. Every movement counts for them! More power to them!!
^^This
Up until last November, I was in an office job, sitting on my *kitten* for 8-10 hours a day. ANY activity would be more than I did then. Now, I am a homemaker, doing things I didn't do normally. (Sorry folks, but housecleaning was done by my hubby until he went back to work - not me...)
If I'm hurting myself, so be it... But, down 27 pounds in the short period of time is no small feat... AND that's with logging the "silly" things like housecleaning and food prep (where it is a lot of chopping, mixing, blah blah blah...) Oh, and I don't log to eat the calories back... That, to me, would be counterproductive.0 -
Uh, I give up. No one actually reads my response and lists their *special* case. Of course there are special/different cases with everything (a 5 hour cooking class) or healing from health problems and so on. Please read my further responses before continuing to attack.
Yes it doesn't affect me as such, but hey, this is a place where we are meant to help each other, so for the people cheating themselves and saying 'oh but it took me 150 calories to get the cookies out of the fridge so it's ok' (yes exaggeration I know), it's just sad. I don't want to see that.
Sign out, if no one will read properly then I give up! Bye ya'll0
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