OMG! Home food pump for obesity, medically assisted bulemia?

Seriously...? The very concept is disgusting.

Crazy. And wouldn't work on me anyway. My cravings and binges have to do with brain chemistry. Chemicals in binge foods never reach brain=what's the point?

Or maybe they hope it will teach people to disassociate junk food with the brain buzz it gives you?

Better to teach them to replace that buzz with an exercise buzz instead.

My face is all like this: :noway: plus a little more horror and disgust.

That is such absolute mindf***ing madness that I thought this was a joke thread.

ETA: and it breaks my heart what people are willing to do to themselves instead of taking a slow, sane, loving approach to changing their bodies. There's a self-loathing happening there that honestly makes me sad.

I'm sorry to say, this is NOT a joke thread. I couldn't believe when I saw it on the show this morning & I have since Googled it to read more of the awful details. This is already being used. See e.g.,

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-01/04/self-stomach-pump-for-dieters

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/01/09/dr-manny-dont-go-pumping-my-stomach-yet/

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/stomach-pumping-machine-makes-calories-disappear/story?id=18164739

To quote from that article:
"One female patient lost 38kg over the course of the 59 weeks she used the system. She "aspirated" after every meal: "the patient uncapped [her] tube, connected a 60 cc syringe and extracted food from her stomach twice. This resulted in a siphon effect, which permitted the subject to freely drain the stomach by allowing the open tube to empty into a bucket."

Ya its a dumb idea, but sadly the people using it will have wasted money and time before they realize that this isn't the answer and be left even more defeated. I am learning that to lose weight it has to come from a change in habits, and in thinking. The fact that weight loss is big business and makes people alot of money is why things like this are created and so called health professionals endorse it for the same reason.

Wow thanks for this post. On my way home now and was pondering what to eat and if I should cheat as its Friday. Well, just lost my appetite. No mood to cheat now

My face is all like this: :noway: plus a little more horror and disgust.

^^^^this^^^

Is this not bulimia ponced up?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulimia_nervosa

Except you wouldn't have the esophageal damage of vomiting. You could still have the malnutrition though. I've seen a couple of MFP posts about this and I must say I have mixed thoughts on it.

If someone is desperate enough to try this, then I think it is absolutely better than vomiting or laxatives. One reason is less damage to the digestive system, but another is that you would be required to see a doctor. Hopefully it would be used only as a tool in a multi-step process leading to a healthier relationship with food. Though, I'm sure not all doctors will be so scrupulous.

Sorry to say it , "but only in America" [raises eyebrows *& tuts ]c ould such a thing be countenanced

It's not been approved in America as of right now. But it has been used in Sweden and "select regions of Europe".

"Some people manage to lose weight on a diet, but the kinds of changes you need to make to keep it off are probably not sustainable for many," she said. "There's a lot to be said for people being in the driver's seat with their own body, with their own health. This allows a patient to do that while under the care of a physician." Quoted from http://abcnews.go.com/Health/stomach-pumping-machine-makes-calories-disappear/story?id=18164739

I cannot believe someone actually said this in defense of this. How about taking control of what you put into your body to control your weight. This just really disturbs me. There is no accountability anymore.

Next on Dr. Oz... the pump. All I can say is WTF

That is such absolute mindf***ing madness that I thought this was a joke thread.

ETA: and it breaks my heart what people are willing to do to themselves instead of taking a slow, sane, loving approach to changing their bodies. There's a self-loathing happening there that honestly makes me sad.

I'm sorry to say, this is NOT a joke thread. I couldn't believe when I saw it on the show this morning & I have since Googled it to read more of the awful details. This is already being used. See e.g.,

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-01/04/self-stomach-pump-for-dieters

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/01/09/dr-manny-dont-go-pumping-my-stomach-yet/

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/stomach-pumping-machine-makes-calories-disappear/story?id=18164739

To quote from that article:
"One female patient lost 38kg over the course of the 59 weeks she used the system. She "aspirated" after every meal: "the patient uncapped [her] tube, connected a 60 cc syringe and extracted food from her stomach twice. This resulted in a siphon effect, which permitted the subject to freely drain the stomach by allowing the open tube to empty into a bucket."

Ugh! I think I'm about to aspirate my breakfast into the toilet after reading that. Bleh!

^^^ :sick:

Wow! :noway: my head just blew up! :explode:

Sorry to say it , "but only in America" [raises eyebrows *& tuts ]c ould such a thing be countenanced

It's not been approved in America as of right now. But it has been used in Sweden and "select regions of Europe".

"Some people manage to lose weight on a diet, but the kinds of changes you need to make to keep it off are probably not sustainable for many," she said. "There's a lot to be said for people being in the driver's seat with their own body, with their own health. This allows a patient to do that while under the care of a physician." Quoted from http://abcnews.go.com/Health/stomach-pumping-machine-makes-calories-disappear/story?id=18164739

I cannot believe someone actually said this in defense of this. How about taking control of what you put into your body to control your weight. This just really disturbs me. There is no accountability anymore.

It's so easy to say that when you have never had an eating disorder. Some people are literally killing themselves with food and are unable to stop without help. Sometimes getting weight down by any means necessary is step one in saving someone's life, and this method is unlikely to be less unhealthy than bariatric surgery.

I agree that people with eating disorders are in need of medical help. However, the largest portion of that medical assistance should be mental health care. Those issues are psychological. No matter the method (pumps, bypass, lap band etc) it will not "cure" the person's thought processes and mental associations of food/body without addressing the bigger picture of mental health. I don't think it's going to help anyone overcome their issues with food by telling them "oh eat whatever you want you can just pump it out in a while." It's the same as "go binge and then just purge later." It's not battling eating disorders, it's encouraging them.