Fasting diet

Hey all, I've just started, am on my 2nd fast day. Have been saving most of my calories for diner. Am considering doing 3 days a week instead of 2, just to get the ball rolling (prob Mon, Wed and Fri) sticking to btw 1200+1500 on non-fast days. Good luck to you all, hopefully it works as well as the book suggests!

Day 1 of the fasting diet, I had porridge this morning for breakfast and aim to have a chicken salad for dinner, trying to stay motivated however I am quite hungry now!

As far as I am aware, and there may well be studies out there that do show it, there is nothing to show that the benefits of this type of diet are anything more than those you get from calorie restriction. The studies are evolving but I have not seen anything compelling.

As far as I am aware, and there may well be studies out there that do show it, there is nothing to show that the benefits of this type of diet are anything more than those you get from calorie restriction. The studies are evolving but I have not seen anything compelling.

agreed. Just another tool for dietary compliance.

The difference between 5:2 & LG is that LG is everyday fast for 16 and eat for 8 and they have more guidelines for macro breakdowns (however I believe this is unnecessary and can be done with straight cals/macros also). 5:2 just cuts cals on 2 days creating your deficit. You still have the regular P&F requirements but they just say to "eat normally" on the 5 days. That is the bit that a lot of MFP users get wrong and eat at a normal deficit which will obviously make a very large weekly deficit.

Also, as far as I'm aware 5:2 has little information about including resistance training to preserve LBM. I don't know if they assume people know this as it's the case for all people in a calorie deficit.

My understanding about the 5:2 plan is that you're supposed to eat at or near TDEE/maintenance on your non-fasting days. The whole point of the 2 days of lean is that it's balanced out by 5 days of plenty, and you don't give your body the signal that the great famine has arrived and it had better store everything as fat. Fasting for two days and also restricting for the other 5 days is just going to send your metabolism into slow-motion over the long term.

My understanding about the 5:2 plan is that you're supposed to eat at or near TDEE/maintenance on your non-fasting days. The whole point of the 2 days of lean is that it's balanced out by 5 days of plenty, and you don't give your body the signal that the great famine has arrived and it had better store everything as fat. Fasting for two days and also restricting for the other 5 days is just going to send your metabolism into slow-motion over the long term.

Yup!

You're right in that the studies are still in their infancy. I haven't seen anything about adding in resistance training (but then, the assumption is that the 5 non-fasting days would be your usual routine, so resistance training might be already in there).

Aside from just caloric restriction, the point about fasting is that it allows your body to repair existing cells rather than just constantly make new ones. This is supposed to bring about many health benefits, and in fact weight loss is just a side effect. Dr Michael Mosley, who first proposed the 5:2 approach in a BBC documentary last year, is continuing with a 6:1 approach to maintain his weight but still get the other health benefits.

Nothing on the BBC doco about resistance training because it was primarily about the supposed health benefits not weight loss. That is also why they talk about lowering protein amounts for life longevity. (which I don't agree with)

Calorie deficit + no resistance training + low protein = a possibly longer life (of skinny-fatness)

I'm just gonna stick to eating awesome clean food and exercising regularly. That's your health benefits right there. Not starving yourself.

I am currently doing a different cleanse now. The Master Cleanse. It's controversial, but I have done extensive research and have tried it twice, I did NOT gain all the weight back and thus 7 mos later am trying it a third time. I begin in the morning and will end April 4th. I did it to cleanse from the allergies I some how adopted. I had migraines due to that too. The cleanse made me feel like a new person. I LOVED the way I felt. No allergies either. It call came back though.

wrong thread.

fasting =/= cleansing

I did it ten yrs ago and lost 30 lbs. I loved it. bc it worked for weight loss. I would lose 3 lbs a week from it, but gained 1 lb back by week's end so it was a 2 lb deficit. I didn't notice any health benefits to it. If they happened, I wasn't aware of them.

I am currently doing a different cleanse now. The Master Cleanse. It's controversial, but I have done extensive research and have tried it twice, I did NOT gain all the weight back and thus 7 mos later am trying it a third time. I begin in the morning and will end April 4th. I did it to cleanse from the allergies I some how adopted. I had migraines due to that too. The cleanse made me feel like a new person. I LOVED the way I felt. No allergies either. It call came back though.

So you're gonna go an entire month not eating solid food, or if you are, in pitifully small amounts? With your only nutrient source coming from a glass of syrup and cayenne pepper?

That's a bad idea. Really, really bad idea. At least with 5:2 fasting you have ample chances to get your food in and eat it well.

I did it ten yrs ago and lost 30 lbs. I loved it. bc it worked for weight loss. I would lose 3 lbs a week from it, but gained 1 lb back by week's end so it was a 2 lb deficit. I didn't notice any health benefits to it. If they happened, I wasn't aware of them.

I am currently doing a different cleanse now. The Master Cleanse. It's controversial, but I have done extensive research and have tried it twice, I did NOT gain all the weight back and thus 7 mos later am trying it a third time. I begin in the morning and will end April 4th. I did it to cleanse from the allergies I some how adopted. I had migraines due to that too. The cleanse made me feel like a new person. I LOVED the way I felt. No allergies either. It call came back though.

So you're gonna go an entire month not eating solid food, or if you are, in pitifully small amounts? With your only nutrient source coming from a glass of syrup and cayenne pepper?

That's a bad idea. Really, really bad idea. At least with 5:2 fasting you have ample chances to get your food in and eat it well.

The Master Cleanse can only be critiqued by medical professionals or by experienced cleansers who have also read the book. Thank you though for your input. Trust me, I'll come out healthier. I will be consuming 1200 calories a day, loaded with nutrients, but not a variety of nutrients. Lemon juice on an empty stomach has been proven to balance ph and kill cancer cells for one.

Lemon juice has been proven to kill cancer cells??

Link ?

I did it ten yrs ago and lost 30 lbs. I loved it. bc it worked for weight loss. I would lose 3 lbs a week from it, but gained 1 lb back by week's end so it was a 2 lb deficit. I didn't notice any health benefits to it. If they happened, I wasn't aware of them.

I am currently doing a different cleanse now. The Master Cleanse. It's controversial, but I have done extensive research and have tried it twice, I did NOT gain all the weight back and thus 7 mos later am trying it a third time. I begin in the morning and will end April 4th. I did it to cleanse from the allergies I some how adopted. I had migraines due to that too. The cleanse made me feel like a new person. I LOVED the way I felt. No allergies either. It call came back though.

So you're gonna go an entire month not eating solid food, or if you are, in pitifully small amounts? With your only nutrient source coming from a glass of syrup and cayenne pepper?

That's a bad idea. Really, really bad idea. At least with 5:2 fasting you have ample chances to get your food in and eat it well.

The Master Cleanse can only be critiqued by medical professionals or by experienced cleansers who have also read the book. Thank you though for your input. Trust me, I'll come out healthier. I will be consuming 1200 calories a day, loaded with nutrients, but not a variety of nutrients. Lemon juice on an empty stomach has been proven to balance ph and kill cancer cells for one.

Lemon juice has been proven to kill cancer cells??

Link ?

There are pages and pages of links for this. You want me to copy and paste them all here? How many would you like? Is ten enough or more? Or you can Google the following, "lemon juice kills cancer cells". Or rather "lemon juice kills cancer". Either way, let me know and I'll go to Google and then type that in and then do all of the copying and pasting for you.

I am currently doing a different cleanse now. The Master Cleanse. It's controversial, but I have done extensive research and have tried it twice, I did NOT gain all the weight back and thus 7 mos later am trying it a third time. I begin in the morning and will end April 4th. I did it to cleanse from the allergies I some how adopted. I had migraines due to that too. The cleanse made me feel like a new person. I LOVED the way I felt. No allergies either. It call came back though.

wrong thread.

fasting =/= cleansing

I am FASTING. The Master Cleanse is a fast because I am not eating any food.

I am so disappointed you removed the bit that said " I would NEVER post about anything I didn't know about"

Lemon juice killing cancer is a well known hoax - you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet.

The fact that someone said it is a hoax is something that maybe you shouldn't believe that you read on the Internet. Look maybe you can put me on ignore and I'll do the same for you.

I am currently doing a different cleanse now. The Master Cleanse. It's controversial, but I have done extensive research and have tried it twice, I did NOT gain all the weight back and thus 7 mos later am trying it a third time. I begin in the morning and will end April 4th. I did it to cleanse from the allergies I some how adopted. I had migraines due to that too. The cleanse made me feel like a new person. I LOVED the way I felt. No allergies either. It call came back though.

wrong thread.

fasting =/= cleansing

I am FASTING. The Master Cleanse is a fast because I am not eating any food.

I am so disappointed you removed the bit that said " I would NEVER post about anything I didn't know about"

Lemon juice killing cancer is a well known hoax - you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet.

The fact that someone said it is a hoax is something that maybe you shouldn't believe that you read on the Internet. Look maybe you can put me on ignore and I'll do the same for you.

Why would I put you on ignore?

I find your posts hilarious!

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