Emotional affair-need advice!

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  • Alex_is_Hawks
    Alex_is_Hawks Posts: 3,499 Member
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    Look, I'm not condoning his behavior and I don't know how old this man is. However, I am 48 and by this age, you learn a few things. First of all, you haven't said if you and he were married. If, after 17 years you're not, why? Second, it is human nature to want to be attractive to others, especially after being in a relationship for that long. Are you taking good care of yourself and presenting your best self to him? Do you compliment him and make him feel like he is the only man in the world you are attracted to? These things are very important to men, yet most of them won't ever tell you. I wouldn't suggest dumping him....yet. Take all things into consideration. We don't know you or your man and there are two sides to every relationship. Be honest with yourself and really take a serious, hard look at your relationship...the last 17 years and what it is today. Are your needs being met and are you meeting his? If he is happy with you, he won't be interested in anyone else. If you are honestly doing all you can to make him happy and he still has other women on the brain...it's time to get out. Don't waste another day!

    why? cause not everyone wants to get married...

    i have never wanted to be married...it has nothing to do with my love...and everything to do with I just don't care about the idea of being married...

    not being married doesn't imply a problem....it just doesn't.
  • lbesaw
    lbesaw Posts: 267 Member
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    That's a really tough one. Since it is his second go round he must not have learned anything the first time. I would sit him down for one final time to find out what the problem is. If there is nothing wrong within your own relationship that you can work on then I would call it quits and start fresh with someone that "deserves" you. You deserve nothing short of total commitment and fidelity from the one you are married to. All bets are off when the commitment and the ability to trust is gone. So sorry you have to endure this. Emotional affairs are just as bad as the actual thing. By confiding in another you rob your spouse and yourself the opportunity to create a very close and meaningful bond. :frown:
  • nokanjaijo
    nokanjaijo Posts: 466 Member
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    If a couple has been together for a long time, lots of times it's difficult to leave because of fear. I don't disagree with getting out if the issue doesn't seem it can be resolved, but for many who are in this situation, they have no idea on how to do it. Splitting up assets, who gets what, someone's got to live somewhere else, can they survive on just their own income..........

    This whole thing seems to have come as a bit of a surprise to the OP. So, her SO hasn't made much of an effort to even let her know that he is unahappy, feeling unloved, ignored and mistreated...if he is.

    How about a heads up at the very least? You don't have to leave to say, "You treat me badly. If I can't get what I need from you, I think I should be able to look elsewhere for it. And I might."

    Saying the OP may have driven her SO to this really just goes out of the way to paint him as though he has no agency.

    Honestly, if I said my employee stole from me, would anybody say, "Maybe you drove them to it. Possibly by not paying them enough." If somebody did that, wouldn't most people assume that person was a thief? It's just such a left field thing to say.
  • majoki
    majoki Posts: 151 Member
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    Sounds like he has been a dog from day one.

    On behalf of dogs everywhere, I am offended! Woof! =)

    As far as my advice: If you're okay with him cheating on you again after this, then by all means stay with him. If you aren't willing to forgive him when he cheats again, then you should leave.
  • winterswish
    winterswish Posts: 162
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    Go to counseling individual( both of you) and couple counseling. Try to work it out. 17 years is a long time to be together.

    Second worst reason to stay together right after "for the children". If he's a dog or the two of you are unhappy, you've already danced this dance for 17 years. End it now so that you can spend the next 17 doing what's good and happy making for yourselves.
  • lele104
    lele104 Posts: 12 Member
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    Check out this site http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/ it may help you discover some of the why's of what he is doing. She references how married men will sometimes want this ego boost and go about finding "lost loves" or childhood sweethearts to rekindle with...not for the purpose of leaving their currrent wife but to make themselves feel better. As others have said this "problem" may not ever go away but you should remember to take care of YOURSELF first and foremost. If you think counseling will help then try it but if you would be better off on your own without the drama and worry then find a way to make that happen. Best of luck to you whatever you decide.
  • tsdaughe
    tsdaughe Posts: 88
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    Hearing one side of a story and making suggestions on it is being subjective and not objective. To be objective, we'd need to hear his side.
    Why? Well, it could well be he is a flat out cheater, or like a friend of mine who was very devoted to his wife, he got tired of being ignored/mentally abused by his wife and found comfort and speaking with another female who thought he was a good guy.

    Point is, it's NOT always the guy.

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    I completely agree with this. There is always two sides to the story. Sometimes the other side is the GUY is truely a cheating *kitten*. However, I have known men devoted to their wives who worked hard and went out of their way to show them love only to be mentally and emotionally abused and be cheated on. Too the point he found comfort elsewhere.
  • Skiing914
    Skiing914 Posts: 27
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    Look, I'm not condoning his behavior and I don't know how old this man is. However, I am 48 and by this age, you learn a few things. First of all, you haven't said if you and he were married. If, after 17 years you're not, why? Second, it is human nature to want to be attractive to others, especially after being in a relationship for that long. Are you taking good care of yourself and presenting your best self to him? Do you compliment him and make him feel like he is the only man in the world you are attracted to? These things are very important to men, yet most of them won't ever tell you. I wouldn't suggest dumping him....yet. Take all things into consideration. We don't know you or your man and there are two sides to every relationship. Be honest with yourself and really take a serious, hard look at your relationship...the last 17 years and what it is today. Are your needs being met and are you meeting his? If he is happy with you, he won't be interested in anyone else. If you are honestly doing all you can to make him happy and he still has other women on the brain...it's time to get out. Don't waste another day!

    why? cause not everyone wants to get married...

    i have never wanted to be married...it has nothing to do with my love...and everything to do with I just don't care about the idea of being married...

    not being married doesn't imply a problem....it just doesn't.



    Just wondered...trying to get a bit more info. Wondering why this guy doesn't just leave if he wants other women. Sometimes men stay and cheat because they don't want to get taken to the cleaners!
  • missyj1115
    missyj1115 Posts: 1,220 Member
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    His actions do not support his promises.....boot his *kitten* out.
    Defiantly this!!!!!!
  • Hellbent_Heidi
    Hellbent_Heidi Posts: 3,669 Member
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    Hearing one side of a story and making suggestions on it is being subjective and not objective. To be objective, we'd need to hear his side.
    Why? Well, it could well be he is a flat out cheater, or like a friend of mine who was very devoted to his wife, he got tired of being ignored/mentally abused by his wife and found comfort and speaking with another female who thought he was a good guy.

    Point is, it's NOT always the guy.

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    I completely agree with this statement....there's always three sides to these things...his, hers, and the actual truth!

    That being said though...sneaking around and cheating is a cowardly and crappy thing for anyone (man or woman) to do. When you've made a committment to someone, you should get out, or at least start the process of getting out, before getting involved with anyone else.
    If a couple has been together for a long time, lots of times it's difficult to leave because of fear. I don't disagree with getting out if the issue doesn't seem it can be resolved, but for many who are in this situation, they have no idea on how to do it. Splitting up assets, who gets what, someone's got to live somewhere else, can they survive on just their own income..........

    A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
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    Yes, I'm sure this is very true and a very difficult situation to be in. It usually takes two to make or break any relationship. My gym buddy and I were having this very conversation just this morning....a friend of hers is married with a new baby and she's been really cold and emasculating towards her husband more or less since the time she found out she was pregnant (a year ago). I actually said "it sounds like she's going to drive him to leave or cheat if she's not careful"..... Without REALLY knowing the OP's or her partner's actions or behavior in the relationship....none of us can really make any informed judgement, so its wrong to assume he's the devil and she's an angel who has done nothing wrong.

    The only thing I will say is that without trust, you have nothing, and he's already done this to her at least the one time that she knows about. Regardless of who is to blame...perhaps both of them would be better off without each other. :ohwell:
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,637 Member
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    UM, how about if a guy is unhappy in a relationship, he takes an HONORABLE approach and either leaves the woman on better terms, or tries to work it out?
    There a lots of women that aren't happy with their relationships, but stay in it. I know because I've gotten to hear it from them during sessions over the years. Some have left, some haven't. But of the ones that didn't leave, it was because of children, income, fear, etc.
    A guy being unhappy in a relationship doesn't always means he wants out. He may not be very well a communication (lots of men aren't) and may not know how to express how he really feels.
    Long relationships are hard to get out of. Think of your parents if they had a long relationship, then you find out that your dad did this. Think it'd be easy for you mom to just bail out? I know if it happened to my parents, it'd would be tough for either.
    In retrospect, if the person is a flat out cheater and not committed, then I'd expect she should move on. But again, we only know one side of the story.

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  • dmpizza
    dmpizza Posts: 3,321 Member
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    Whether or not he has done anything with these women or just "sexted", its still wrong.
    He has gone waaaay over the line.

    If you think you can fix the relationship, then by all means try, but be prepared for a breakup.
  • Timshel_
    Timshel_ Posts: 22,834 Member
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    Hearing one side of a story and making suggestions on it is being subjective and not objective. To be objective, we'd need to hear his side.
    Why? Well, it could well be he is a flat out cheater, or like a friend of mine who was very devoted to his wife, he got tired of being ignored/mentally abused by his wife and found comfort and speaking with another female who thought he was a good guy.

    Point is, it's NOT always the guy.

    Cheating and stepping outside a relationship is always the fault of the person who does it. It doesn't matter what the situation is, that is the choice the person having the affair or one night stand makes. They can give every excuse in the book of why the other person is to blame, but it still doesn't justify it, which is all they are trying to do.

    If you are unhappy to a degree you want someone else, leave....or be a cheater. While the situations are all shades of gray, the act is black and white.
  • Hellbent_Heidi
    Hellbent_Heidi Posts: 3,669 Member
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    awww, FFS...she deactivated already????

    Since I'm sure she's still reading using her normal login...please be advised:

    If you're going to make a fake account to post a story, at least keep the account active long enough for the thread to run its course :grumble:
  • micabrito2012
    micabrito2012 Posts: 103 Member
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    17 years
    "Don't let man seperate what God has united".

    This is all up to you, it's easy for me to say leave! I don't know your life or his so all I can say is This is all up to you!
  • edge_dragoncaller
    edge_dragoncaller Posts: 826 Member
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    I've been in a relationship 17 years. I do love this man, as any couple we've had our ups and downs. Probably about 5 years ago he was in a period where he was drinking too much and was sending horrible messages to a woman that works in our same organization about wanting to meet for you know what. As you probably figured out, I found out. Huge heart to hearts and drinking stopped and we rebuilt and moved on.
    Fast forward to today. I find messages on his phone from his high school sweetheart. Asking her to call at 0100. I was at work. Next email he said what a sexy voice she had. Another said that she has the best you know what's he's ever seen.....hands down. Now I know she lives hours away.......but how do I handle this situation??? Thanks for listening!!!!!!!

    He's cheating on you, sexting is cheating. Do you what a relationship that you always have to monitor his phone and emails to see what he's up to? I couldn't live with that level of mistrust. I'd leave him and move on!

    That this is cheating is YOUR opinion. The OP may, or may not, agree. For example, I've been with the same woman now for 8 years, 3 of them married to her. We have a good and strong relationship and keep nothing from one another. We both agree that if you have sex with another person, that's cheating. Cybersex...it's more like "Choose Your Own Adventure" porn. She can look at a guy and tell me he's damn hot...and I can do the same with women.

    For anyone, it's nice...no...Wonderful...to be able to talk with another person and hear that they would love to have you. It's an enormous ego boost to hear that somone covets your body, and as far as ANYONE on the subject knows...that's what he is doing. Getting an ego boost.

    Not sure about the rest of you, but if I'm in a funk, nothing cheers me up like hearing someone want to ride me until the saddle breaks and the shoes fall off.

    I guess what I'm saying, is...

    To the OP : I get and I understand your need to vent and let it out. Great Idea before you actually talk to him. Try to keep in mind that 5 years after his last problems with drinking, you're still going through his phone. If, five years later, my wife was still rooting through my stuff...I would do something just because she's obviously never gonna trust me and yes...I would do it out of pure bitterness.

    To everyone else : There have been some really good responses, and some...not so good, then some, down-right ignorant. Those of you that are advising in short little comments like this...

    "Get out of the relationship." or "He's a cheating loser."

    You're basically sabotaging the OP's marriage. STFU.
  • BinaryPulsar
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  • NicS69
    NicS69 Posts: 40 Member
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    Think about it.....these are the things you found out about. How much do you think there is that you haven't found out about. He is neither faithful nor loyal and you deserve much better.
  • majikmiker
    majikmiker Posts: 291 Member
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    Everyone realizes that this is a TROLL topic right? The OP joined this month, and has already deactivated her account after posting. Just trying to stir up crap. :huh: :grumble: :angry: :mad: :explode:
  • teamdj1
    teamdj1 Posts: 265 Member
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