Still think your 1200 or less diet is a good idea?

I can do 1200 for my breakfast.

To quote an earlier thread...That is not a normal breakfast!! Maybe if you're a linebacker!!! You must be one of those ectomorphs!! I know my body!!

My response to all those links:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1454084

Discrepancy between self-reported and actual caloric intake and exercise in obese subjects.
Lichtman SW, Pisarska K, Berman ER, Pestone M, Dowling H, Offenbacher E, Weisel H, Heshka S, Matthews DE, Heymsfield SB.
Source
Department of Medicine, St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital Center, Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, New York, NY.
Abstract
BACKGROUND AND METHODS:
Some obese subjects repeatedly fail to lose weight even though they report restricting their caloric intake to less than 1200 kcal per day. We studied two explanations for this apparent resistance to diet--low total energy expenditure and underreporting of caloric intake--in 224 consecutive obese subjects presenting for treatment. Group 1 consisted of nine women and one man with a history of diet resistance in whom we evaluated total energy expenditure and its main thermogenic components and actual energy intake for 14 days by indirect calorimetry and analysis of body composition. Group 2, subgroups of which served as controls in the various evaluations, consisted of 67 women and 13 men with no history of diet resistance.
RESULTS:
Total energy expenditure and resting metabolic rate in the subjects with diet resistance (group 1) were within 5 percent of the predicted values for body composition, and there was no significant difference between groups 1 and 2 in the thermic effects of food and exercise. Low energy expenditure was thus excluded as a mechanism of self-reported diet resistance. In contrast, the subjects in group 1 underreported their actual food intake by an average (+/- SD) of 47 +/- 16 percent and overreported their physical activity by 51 +/- 75 percent. Although the subjects in group 1 had no distinct psychopathologic characteristics, they perceived a genetic cause for their obesity, used thyroid medication at a high frequency, and described their eating behavior as relatively normal (all P < 0.05 as compared with group 2).
CONCLUSIONS:
The failure of some obese subjects to lose weight while eating a diet they report as low in calories is due to an energy intake substantially higher than reported and an overestimation of physical activity, not to an abnormality in thermogenesis.

I can do 1200 for my breakfast.

don't care about all the posts in this thread

taso, get ready for this:




you're so damn right. :drinker:

My response to all those links:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1454084

Pretty much bang on what I just posted.

Yeah. The idea that your body will stop losing weight if you only give it half the energy it needs is ludicrous to me. Losing weight does slow your metabolism. Severe calorie restriction does not give your body magical properties.

Pretty much bang on what I just posted.

Yeah. The idea that your body will stop losing weight if you only give it half the energy it needs is ludicrous to me. Losing weight does slow your metabolism. Severe calorie restriction does not give your body magical properties.

I guess I shouldn't tell you how as soon as I started eating 1200 cal/day I was able to float around. The laws of physics don't apply to me anymore

Shes one in a million. The average woman dosent look like that. It is like saying there should be no fat girls under 60.

Reading comprehension fail.

She actually supports your argument. She is only eating 1700 calories a day, which if you see how much she exercises, is a pretty low calorie diet.

Or was that not what you were getting at before? (as an aside, a personal trainer I knew in Europe was also over 60 and could rock the bikini better than a lot of women much younger, that includes myself ... I've got horrid stretch marks that aren't going away on the abs.)

don't care about all the posts in this thread

taso, get ready for this:




you're so damn right. :drinker:

26 YO male! What else is new. :laugh:

Hmm....I don't really care what a young man is eating, but this female, just a year and two days from turning 40, working at a desk all day and doing very little cardio is losing a pound a week on 2000 calories.

Great link.
Also, many people don't understand that it's not always about the calories. If you eat fried bacon cheese burgers everyday you will never end up ripped. It's what you eat that matters more than how many calories you eat. I worked my way down to 120lbs once before by eating all the right foods and doing all the right exercises at the right times. I Never counted calories until now and it works for me....which might not work for anyone else...cuz we're all different

I should add, to be completely fair, that I think a lot of younger people who are more active in their daily lives are making a big mistake by jumping straight onto 1200 as their total number for the day. But MFP never intended for them to do that. It is for sedentary people and that means it is not for people who work on their feet, students who cross campus with giant backpacks full of books, and those kids trampling across people's lawns. These hoodlums need to eat more than 1200 every day even if they don't make a conscious effort to work out. Now get off my lawn!

This exactly is the point. Just because 1200 calories a day is the right number of calories for a very petite, sedentary, older woman or someone with a medical issue that slows the metabolism, does not make it the right number of calories for a larger, younger more active person with no medical issues.

If someone genuinely only needs to eat 1200 calories a day, and they punch their data into a TDEE calculator and subtract ten or twenty percent (depending on how much they have left to lose), then the number they end up with will be 1200 calories (or close to it) and they can carry on safe in the knowledge that it's the right number of calories for them. The problem is, the vast majority of the time when people on 1200 calories a day diets do that, they get a really big number, sometimes well over 2000. Some of them think again and work their way up to eating the higher number of calories, and end up feeling a lot happier, healthier and having a lot more energy, and also experience more steady weight loss as a result. Others freak out at the big number, refuse to eat that much and carry on eating 1200 calories a day. Then there are those who refuse to even try to punch their numbers in the calculators. People who genuinely need to only eat 1200 calories a day will not lose anything by punching their numbers into the calculators to see if they really and truly do only need to eat 1200 calories a day.

*tiptoes carefully from your lawn*