Diet sodas are not bad after all!!!

this implies that you feel that you have done enough research. enlighten me, please.

Enough to know that I'd rather stay away from it. What do you want to know? You can message me. I'm open to discussion. I don't want to keep checking this thread though. Too time consuming.

Likewise. I truly don't care that you don't want to consume aspartame. That's completely your business and it makes no difference to me what you do. But not everything one company makes is inherently bad, and it gets tiresome (not to mention childish) to see Monsanto thrown around like that name is some kind of proof that your position is right.

Just because it doesn't relate to "spikes in hunger" doesn't necessarily mean it's not bad for you.

I agree. And it's full of disgusting, toxic artificial sweeteners.... gag. Don't believe everything you read on the internet bb

Hopefully you avoid dairy, fish, chicken, and citrus fruit because those all contain the metabolites of aspartame is MUCH higher quantities.

There are studies to suggest that aspartame in diet sodas are linked to neurological deficits (ex: blindness). For every study that says, "Just joking guys, it's okay!" You find another study that says the opposite. I'd rather have real sugar and count the calories than a chemical-laden beverage into my body...

I refuse to use an artificial sweetener I have one teaspoon of sugar every morning in my coffee. When we stop using empty calories that quick fix our problems such as sweet cravings instead of addressing the real issues that are causing the sweet cravings then we will all be much more healthy. I just don't understand why anyone would put something so unsure as artificial sweeteners in their body on a daily basis it totally contradicts the whole point of living a healthy lifestyle. A crash dieter who cares only about looking skinny I get it..but for the long term healthy lifestyle change it makes no sense. I might as well start smoking again and use the excuse it prevents me from eating....it is BS and the only ones falling for it are the ones doing it.

I'm pretty sure that aspartame is the single most studied substance. There are decades of research and the only ones that show any negative effects are the ones that test extraordinary amounts of the stuff on rats. As in, their body weight in aspartame fed to them daily. Occasionally some random study pops out of some less than reputable lab and the internet is on fire that aspartame is "bad." And then the study is discredited because of their methodology or data and everything goes back to normal.

There is nothing "unsure" about aspartame except in the minds of people who take in their information from garbage sources.

Name an actual way that aspartame negatively affects health and back it up with a peer reviewed study. There are thousands on aspartame so it shouldn't be hard. Otherwise, as a very low calorie beverage, it fits into a healthy lifestyle whether there are chemicals in it or not. There are chemicals in everything that's how the world works.

If it is so great how come Dannon took it out of their light and fit yogurt? It is genetically modified bacteria for the most part. It still comes down to the plain and simple facts....stop trying to replace everything with empty calories that you cant be certain won't biologically affect you in the long term when there are clearly safe, proven, natural methods at hand. Too each their own I have always been the type of person who can't wait to yell..."TOLD YA SO!".....so if all you fake sweeterner drinkers want to continue to be globally walking lab rats be my guest. Good luck in 2 yrs it will mark 50 yrs since aspartame has been consumed massively by ppl so we will see how much longer until they figure out if it is safe or not lol BTW just because they say it is safe to consume....everything in a grocery store food wise is safe to consume as well. Just because ti is government tested and labeled safe doesnt mean it is good for you. If I went by that logic I would be able to eat anything I want and be skinny lol it just doesnt work that way

Funny thing is that people asking for proof, are basically trying to justify their position by saying that no studies saying the opposite must mean their side is correct.(Like chocolate ice cream in the smoking movie)

Here is the thing. They can't actually preform the studies that would be required to PROVE one or the other on people. It breaks all the ethics rules.

Best that can be done right now is correlation studies and as we have seen those can change drastically based on set up, duration, and objectives of the researcher.

So right now we have no PROOF one way or the other and arguing either is a waste of time.

It boils down to this: If you think it is bad: Is it better than the other things you were planning on drinking, or would be drinking otherwise? If you think it is perfectly fine, are you willing to risk that diet soda might be bad in the long term for you(in other areas that sodas have problems, like with acidity and tooth decay)

There is no right or wrong in this case, it is simply the choice you want to make and the risks you want to take.

I often wonder what drives the participants in a back-and-forth such as this. Is it because you truly feel that you can sway the other participant? Is it because you truly feel that you are "right" and you want the other person to know that they are "wrong"? Is it an ego thing? Is is a passion thing? I see it often and I don't understand what drives MFP members to do this. No one ever persuades the opposition.

For me personally, it's about trying to combat opinion with fact. The internet is rife with opinion that all too often is interpreted as fact. I'm not "pro" or "con" anything, except pro truth. Rampant hysteria is why this aspartame issue exists in the first place. Aspartame has been studied to death and yet we still argue about it when we consume and are in contact with thousands of other things per day that have way less long term data associated with them. That's scary to me.

Why is diet soda being discussed on a food and nutrition forum? It is neither and shouldn't belong here.

I'm glad you found an article to justify your addiction to diet soda. Enjoy.

Thanks, no need to be rude. And also, who told you I was addicted to diet soda? I never said that, lol. Why shouldnt it be discussed on a nutrition forum? Just read the article and everything else it mentions.

Anyways just thought I would share, because I've read million of articles about the dangers of diet sodas... this is the first one of the kind!!!

I have read a few of the comments he likes to post on peoples topics, dont take it personal he is usually rude!!!! or maybe having a crappy month and feels a better than every else attitude is the way to put sunshine in his life!! :happy:

Why is diet soda being discussed on a food and nutrition forum? It is neither and shouldn't belong here.

I'm glad you found an article to justify your addiction to diet soda. Enjoy.

Have you found an article to explain why you are right about everything OTHER people put into their bodies. For that matter, open up your diary and stop being so negative on EVERY POST.

Why is diet soda being discussed on a food and nutrition forum? It is neither and shouldn't belong here.

I'm glad you found an article to justify your addiction to diet soda. Enjoy.

I have only read 3 of your posts. I am curious,,,, are you always so negative?

Just want to see people be as healthy as they can be! I don't like BS and don't like seeing others fall for the BS either. Maybe I'm completely wrong about everything but you know what, I know what it feels like to be sick and I know what it feels like to live at a 10. If someone shouts at the top of their lungs that diet soda is "not bad after all" and shows me a random study, then I feel they are missing the entire point. Just look at anything you are putting into your body and ask yourself if it will add vitality to your life. The answer should be simple. Nutrition becomes simpler. Every single time I eat the healthiest food on the planet (produce) I've felt like a million bucks (except for those medjool dates that had larvae in them :sick: ). I think we should strive to eat as close to nature as possible --- why bother with anything else? That's when you see REAL results. There's much more at stake than numbers on a scale. Drinking a diet pop a few times a week might strike you dead one afternoon or it might not be harmful at all, who can really prove it either way? But I do know that life brings life and diet pop just does not fall under the guise of health/food/nutrition. Happy Friday to you, sir. :flowerforyou:

Why is diet soda being discussed on a food and nutrition forum? It is neither and shouldn't belong here.

I'm glad you found an article to justify your addiction to diet soda. Enjoy.

Have you found an article to explain why you are right about everything OTHER people put into their bodies. For that matter, open up your diary and stop being so negative on EVERY POST.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^ :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile:

If it is so great how come Dannon took it out of their light and fit yogurt?

As if that can even be considered to be a remotely logical or relevant argument.

I don't know why you care so much about people drinking diet pop personally. Whatever works. Team IIFYM

Aspartame
Monsanto
FDA
Arrogance
Tin foil hats

This thread has it all.

You can find a study to support almost any view, good or bad.

Just because one study says someting is ok doesn't mean it is.... and for the record, I am not against diet pop at all.

That is so unbelievably true. I'm a marketing writer, and I read health studies all day, every day. Coffee is a big one that gets defended and attacked constantly.

I LOVE Diet Coke, but the key to anything is moderation, right?

The study even says, "But they don’t prove pounding back diet drinks is harmless." So, don't go overboard in celebration.

So does chocolate.

Thats one small part of many statements I have made on this subject.....still doesn't change the FACT that it isnt as good as water and other natural options. Doesnt change the fact it is chemically altered and has empty calories to satiate a craving that has an underlying reason for being a craving and isnt getting dealt with. Aspartame is only one aspect of why soda isn't good for you we havent even touched on the other things in it that cause other problems to your over all health.

Well we don't have to make all our drink choices based on a comparison to water to be healthy.

And I've seen you mention empty calories twice now but diet pop has barely any calories... Also what is inherently bad about "chemically altered"? I didn't think that phrase had a natural negative connotation to it.

I don't care if you don't like it, or have something against it - fair enough whatever works for you. Your tone is just a bit arrogant - and for someone who capitalizes FACTS you haven't really presented any...

Thats one small part of many statements I have made on this subject.....still doesn't change the FACT that it isnt as good as water and other natural options. Doesnt change the fact it is chemically altered and has empty calories to satiate a craving that has an underlying reason for being a craving and isnt getting dealt with. Aspartame is only one aspect of why soda isn't good for you we havent even touched on the other things in it that cause other problems to your over all health.

Well we don't have to make all our drink choices based on a comparison to water to be healthy.

And I've seen you mention empty calories twice now but diet pop has barely any calories... Also what is inherently bad about "chemically altered"? I didn't think that phrase had a natural negative connotation to it.

I don't care if you don't like it, or have something against it - fair enough whatever works for you. Your tone is just a bit arrogant - and for someone who capitalizes FACTS you haven't really presented any...

Your opinion is just that an opinion but instead of trying to comment about my comments why dont you comment on the topic genius? Not all diet sodas are zero calories but contain aspartame so empty calories is what that means. I am not for or against sodas and if you find arrogance in my typing tone that sounds like a personal problem YOU need to deal with sir lol I am however for better choices and being aware of what is really going on with a persons body and understanding that and dealing with it and not just grabbing the quickest fix you can to mask it. So sorry that my FACT that water is always the best option isn't a fact for you lol So sorry that my FACT it is genetically engineered in a lab and sent out to consumers isnt the a fact for you. I stated water was the best option I never stated all the other options just as readily available as diet sodas are. So before you find someone else to pick out of the crowd because YOU think they are arrogant and then contribute nothing other than that you lost weight drinking diet soda because it stopped your cravings (which I have clearly stated over and over is an underlying issue that needs to be dealt with through diet) good luck to you lol You can have my share of diet sodas because I have better smarter options that my body appreciates more.

Honest truth.......diet coke with Vanilla Vodka is yummy and I call it a skinny bi*ch It is a fun treat on a night out once in a while!