I am under eating by at least 1000 cals a day?

i say eat what u want just portion it wait sorry no fried foods not good uh uh n every one cant ignore processed even if u can the earth n water n air is polluted theres fluoride in water but more power to ya eat in moderation to certain things n ull be ok idk if it has to do with metabolism type if so find out what urs is

wtf? Metabolism type? There are different types of metabolism now? I kinda thought most of us humans processed food in the same way?

uh yes there is diff types

Such as?

according to mahhh research depends on age also genetics amount of muscle tissue etc like per say u n some one whos the same height n weight if u n that person who u know work out same hours eat bout same one of u can have a better faster than other or that can handle to a certain food diet than the other what works for u wont for em cause their metabolism

Does any of that actually make sense to you? I can;t understand a word of it

according to mahhh research depends on age also genetics amount of muscle tissue etc like per say u n some one whos the same height n weight if u n that person who u know work out same hours eat bout same one of u can have a better faster than other or that can handle to a certain food diet than the other what works for u wont for em cause their metabolism

Does any of that actually make sense to you? I can;t understand a word of it

Literally not a freaking word no. Someone may as well of stood next to me and gone blar blar blar rarrrrrrrrr and I would have understood more to be honest. I will add some raspberry ketones to my different type of metabolism and see how that works....

This thread just got 1000x more entertaining.

The trouble is it's not a sustainable system.

The point of starting at a higher calorific amount , when you are more overweight, is so that you can drop your calories further as you progress and then plateau. It takes a lot more than 2000 to maintain a body that is 200+lbs, so you should be able to drop at that level. As you get smaller, ie. 180,160,140, you need to drop further. If you start out super low (ie 1000), you are hooped when it comes to plateaus. Your metabolism might start to crap out too. And of course, you start to lose muscle in addition to fat - you don't want to lose muscle. Muscles are super sexy trust me.

I mean yea sure go ahead and eat 1000 calories a day but really when you plateau - how far can you cut on an already 1000 calories diet?.

And plus when "life happens" and you eat normally - your body will hold on to the food instead of using it as energy. And you will put on weight - so what's the point of doing all this hard work if after a year, two years, five years - you are back to square one?. Can you see yourself doing this for the rest of your life?. If you can good on ya. But the truth is you can't.

Have you seen a happy successful anorexic?. Chances are they are either dead or have gained weight.
No disrespect to any anorexic - recovering or otherwise.

I mean yea sure, it's only been two weeks or so and you can do it now but really why set yourself up for failure. If you wanna do things properly then do it the right way. Do it with an approach that is pragmatic and real.

Can you see yourself eating "healthily" for the rest of your life? I mean really not even a bowl of ice cream, like even once in your life?.

I get all that - you have lots of time so you work out a lot etc etc. I work out for the same reasons. I am bored to death. I have nothing else to do in life except maybe have a affair ( joking ). I am at the top of my profession right now. I have finished all my education. I am married to a fantastic guy. I work out a minimum of 20 hours a week as I have nothing else to do. And this is not something which I have been doing for a few weeks, a year or two. No I have been the same way for more than a decade.

The reason why it is sustainable is because I eat. I eat an average of 2800 a day. I eat anything as long as it fits my macros.
Not because I have to eat back my exercise calories. Not because I work out a lot.

Because I love my life. I love my brain which allowed me to make a better life for myself and my family.
I love my body which allows me to live happily and doesn't screw with my psyche.
I love my body which allows me to be the best I can in my life and I owe it a huge responsibility to look after it.

I mean do whatever you want, but once you hit a plateau or just go slightly over your calories and you put on weight - don't freak out. Expect it to happen. Because it will. And I really don't know what you gonna do then?. Drop your calories even lower?. You can do that?. Sure?. You will be happy? Still can work out two hours?. Still can hold on a full time job to the best of your ability?. Still can have shiny hair, healthy teeth, skin etc etc?. Wow; am impressed.

Nah you know what, that game is boring. It's too long, too tedious, it's the cop out lazy way.

Do it the proper way. Look after your body and it will return the favour by looking after you - I give you my word.

I went back on my records and found a day which was a bad day for me, eating things like ice cream, cheese cake, roast dinner, chips etc, and it only was 1600 calories!

Considering cheesecake has anywhere between 500-800 calories a slice I don't think this is accurate.

I don't get the 'can't eat enough' argument. I can easily cram in 2000 calories a day. I have eggs, meat or fish and some avocado for breakfast, sweet potato with fish and veg for lunch, meat and veg for dinner and a couple of protein shakes or some meat or nuts as snacks. I had a peanut butter and ice cream milkshake yesterday (I am in now way suggesting that this is good for weightloss,lol) and that was probably around 1000 calories. You could have one with just milk and peanut butter and bam, calorie heaven.

Hi..Im Cindy..Ive lost 85 pounds since Jan 2012 with mfp and exercise..Sounds like you're building muscle which weighs more than fat..and when you aren't feeding your body enough calories, it holds on to the fat for survival..sounds crazy but I speak from experience..after more than a year I stopped losing weight for 6 weeks..reading posts on mfp helped me figure out I needed to increase my calories a little..you also have to eat all meals and snacks to keep your metabolism going throughout the day..pack a take along lunch you can eat in the car if you don't have time for a sit down lunch..good luck to you

She's not building muscle on less than 1000 calories per day.

Yes, limiting your calorie intake so severely is signaling your body that it is starving and so your body is holding on to your fat. And the key is that you are not pushing yourself. While swimming is an enjoyable exercise and reduces the stress on your joints, its not burning the calories that you think. To get a real fitness workout from swimming you need to be swimming fast and hard enough to feel yourself sweat, even under water. Save the pool for the last 10 minutes of your visit to the gym as a cool down but get on a treadmill with a heart rate monitor and get yourself up to 30 - 40 minutes of real, sweaty, miserable, push yourself movement. Then, use the additional hour of your day to plan a healthy meal. You won't need 2000+ calories anymore, but you need to eat according to the MFP recommendations. You have to PUSH yourself to get results. Time does not equal exertion. PS Your strength routine shouldn't take an hour either.

Watch for the fine print when you "Complete your entry" at the end of the day. Just below where it tells you what you will weigh in 5 weeks it will tell you that you need to consult a doctor before continuing to eat so few calories and that you need to consume more calories. I was doing the same thing you were doing, but my family was concerned I was at an unhealthy level. Upon research I discovered, as much as I hate to admit it, that they were right. You can seriously damage your heart by under-consuming calories over an extended period of time. (Like anorexics do!). Err on the side of caution! I was dropping weight quickly when I was malnourishing myself, but I still lose every week while eating at a more healthy level. Take care of yourself, that is the point, right?

I wish there was a resting place for threads like this, where we can go back and re-read them for the lols. I will miss this when its locked and gone.

I was an undereater myself and upped my calories to the 1,665 I am to eat according to scoobysworkshop. I do 30 day shred level 1 for 25 minuets. that is enough of a work out for me. 2 hours of workouts is not good for your body. undereating is not either. that is why I take a class and ask for help on the undereating. I went from 900-1,000 calories to about 1300-1400 calories. I eat 3 meals and 2 snacks if I feel hungry I add more to it.

if you lost 3 inches you are doing excellent stay away from the scale for now and take measurements around yourt waste chest thigh arm and leg measuring the same arm or leg area every week track that for now. Eat healthy. You are building muscel, muslce is heavier than fat. Eventually the more muscle you build the more fat you will shed, you may want to focus more on cardio rite now.

No to the building of muscle on such a low calories diet. Please read up on how you actually build muscle. It's bloody hard work and takes a surplus of calories to do, bar a few rare exceptions of which this is not one.

I do agree with taking measurements though. But only once a month.

Wow, quite the interesting thread. I see alot of comments where people have stated they have problems eating more than 1400 calories. They keep saying they feel full. My response is that feeling full does not necessarily mean you are providing enough fuel or the right kind of fuel for your body. I could eat cucumbers all day long and feel full but that doesn't mean I am providing my body with the nutrients it needs. Hunger is only an indicator it does not tell the whole story. And in fact it can be misleading. If you are working out 2 hours a day your body simply needs more fuel and the best way to get it is through healthy nutrient rich foods.

Best of luck to the OP and I want to say congrats on your dedication to this lifestyle change. I hope you find a way that is healthy, sustainable and provides the results you are looking for.

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