No idea how you runners do it.
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hahaha. congratulations you just made me laugh and today is a CRAP day thus far. And you werent even being funny.
Okay maybe you should take shorter strides and try not to strike on your heel. I run more flat and it has really helped. In saying that, running isnt for everyone. If you dont like it and your body hates it, dont do it. You know your body and mind better than anyone else. I dont push running on any one bc its not for everyone although I do always say give it a chance. I love running, even when i hate it.
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Running, and talking about it, seems to make you miserable. I would skip it. Do what you enjoy.0
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When I started running I got on a treadmill and I ran for a little bit, then I walked until I caught my wind and I ran a little bit and continued like that until I could do neither or wanted to move to the ellipticals.
The first time I ran an unbroken (no walking) mile I was ecstatic if not jubilant. I wished I had heard about couch-to-5k because it will get you into running form. It's not about improving your cardio its getting your muscles and bones used to how running is different from walking or jumping rope or whatever, I had to increase my ability to run by trial and error.
Everyone talked already about going to a running store and getting fit for shoes, if you want to run, do this, your feet will thank you. And like you, I spent a lot of time running on my heels and I am working now towards landing on the middle to front of my feet. I was inflicted with Planar Faciatias because I had really bad form and I'm making effort to change that.
That being said, I love running, I'm running/have run something obscene like 20 races in 2013 including a 1/2 marathon, the warrior dash and tough mudder.
If you run on roads, run on the left side of the street so you can see the cars coming towards you (hopefully not right at you). If you decide that you want to run, and you don't want to run on the streets, find a park or the like near you.
Go to http://www.traillink.com/ if you don't know where any trails are around you, you'll be surprised, they are there somewhere...
As mentioned above going to a running store is not an option. They do the test on treadmills which I can not safely use. Tried it once in the past and I couldn't stay on the treadmill. My stride was all over the place.0 -
Is your heel striking when you run? Sounds like it - there shouldn't be so much impact. Keep your strides short & quick and land on your forefoot directly underneath you. Find a trail or "greenway" type path near you where you can run without worry. Try C25K so you can start off with short runs and build from there.
There are no paths near me. I have a single block long stretch of road to work with that I can run up and down. That is it. Regarding how I land, I sort of don't have much control over that.
You completely control your stride. And if you are landing so hard that you are jarring your bones then I know for a fact you are heel striking, because I used to heel strike and that is the reason why I hated running for the longest time. In January I started doing the C25K (which I suggest you give a look into) and now I love running, run 4 days a week, and have completed 2 5Ks without stopping to walk.
Also, going out and trying to run 3 miles while having not really ran before is dangerous and can lead to serious injury if not careful. That is why I suggest doing the C25K. As far as running on the road, I would suggest getting some reflective clothing and some running blinkers (they clip onto your shoe laces and are caution lights) and then run AGAINST traffic. Always against traffic, that way you see what is coming in front of you. And if some other car swerves all the way over just to hit you, well then that is attempted murder and I hope it is someone with a lot of money so you can own everything they have (that is what I always think when I run at least lol).
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Every suggestion someone has given you, you have come up with some excuse or some problem. Sorry, but above is the only advise I will give because it sounds like you aren't really looking for an answer and are trolling.0 -
I'm a runner, but I know how it is to have a workout that you just don't like -- me, I hate biking! I know everyone loves it, but I just can't get into it. I also know it'd be better on my joints than running, but I just love running so much. I think everyone has something that just doesn't work for them ... the best part is you tried it!0
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i can't believe you guys are buying this trollololol's story.0
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Have you ever considered going to a chiropractor? If you are that off balance, they might be able to help you with that... My daughter was continually spraining her ankle and twisting it... We went to the chiropractor for a car accident, the chiropractor said her hips were off balance, did a few quick adjustments, and my daughters ankle felt instantly better (my chiropractor specializes in sports medicine). She also sprains it less now... (fyi-- we are a clumsy, uncoordinated family-- I run because I am too uncoordinated to do much else). It's worth a shot if you are saying your balance is that bad...0
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Don't know if it has been mentioned or if you already have tried it but get fitted for actual running shoes at a running shoe store. They will determine how your foot hits and what kind of support you need. My arches collapsed and I had a pretty good bout of PTTD. My running shoes and running have never hurt my feet because they are the 'right' shoe for me to run in. Can be pricey but if you want tostart running, highly recommended.
Read above. It's not consistent at all. Plus they use treadmills which I cannot use.
YOU CAN! My dad has severe nerve damage in his feet and legs. Legs give out, ankles hurt. Knee hurts. and no consistant gait almost had to give up golfing this year even with the use of a cart. All while being parially numb. He FINALLY listed and went to a running shoe store to see if the can help. Guess what, while he will never be a runner, but less that two weeks with these shoes, he is walking better and his pain is getting better. This is a man that should have been wheelchair bound a long time ago. If you want it bad enough you find a way to do it. It hurts nothing to go into the store and talk to them and see what they think, and what they would recommend based on the issues you are having.0 -
i can't believe you guys are buying this trollololol's story.
I don't troll on these forums, thanks.
The problem is that the suggestions everyone has suggested do not apply to me. They are very conventional suggestions that have been tried in the past. Facts:
1. I do struggle with basic movements, from walking to running. I'm okay with sprinting and jumping. It is neurological in nature.
2. I would like to try to find a way around this to start running. But the main suggestions people have come up with do not apply to someone with this particular issue. Go to a running store to check stride for shoes? They make you use a treadmill which I cannot safely use. My stride is inconsistent because it stems from very poor basic motor control which stems from overactive senses. Therefore learning to control it is difficult if not impossible because my motor control is directly tied to my senses of hearing, touch, and sight, which vary in hyperactivity by the day.
No trolling, just trying to find "outside the box" suggestions. I have no interest in taking up running long term. I am trying to get up to the point where I can run a 5k for reasons involving experimentation.0 -
i can't believe you guys are buying this trollololol's story.
We are a helpful and well meaning bunch. Yes we are easy targets for trolling, but we support each other and if occasionally we've been had, well pbbbbttttt
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Is your heel striking when you run? Sounds like it - there shouldn't be so much impact. Keep your strides short & quick and land on your forefoot directly underneath you. Find a trail or "greenway" type path near you where you can run without worry. Try C25K so you can start off with short runs and build from there.
I need to try this as well; I jog, but hate it! Love the results though...my legs stay looking mean..ha ha...I have a HUGE respect for runners0 -
2. I would like to try to find a way around this to start running. But the main suggestions people have come up with do not apply to someone with this particular issue. Go to a running store to check stride for shoes? They make you use a treadmill which I cannot safely use.
The ones I have gone to have me walk, jog and run outside. No treadmill required.0 -
Since you're unique enough that the advice that works for the vast majority of people is inapplicable, I suggest you find a sports therapist who specialises in people with dyspraxia as they will be able to suggest strategies which will help you.0
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It sounds like you need to visit a doctor about your equilibrium, perhaps there's something else going on with you to affect your balance. If you don't have an actual problem there, then you are just making excuses. It wasn't easy for most runners to become runners, they just went out and did it and pushed through their discomfort. As it's been pointed out, there are numerous great suggestions here, and you seem to have a rebuttal for every one of them. It's plain and simple, you either want to run and find a way to make it work, or you don't want to run and you just don't do it. This isn't a debate.
Diagnosed w/ Asperger Syndrome & Dyspraxia. My basic motor control is very spotty and varies depending on the day. Basically, I have to "re-learn" how to move every day because when I go to sleep at night it resets to a random severity. Some days I can run okay, other days I can't safely use stairs. Sounds, lights, and seeing movement throw off my balance as well. Fine with doing things that require generating explosive force and leaving it at that, but for anything requiring more control I choke.
^^^^ do people on these threads actually read all the posts?
dyspraxia is not "making excuses" it's a neurological disability. It varies in severity with different individuals, but clearly the OP is severely enough affected by it to make it really difficult to go running, and most of the usual advice won't work.
OP you should have stated that from the start, you would have got more helpful replies that are appropriate to your situation instead of the same advice that you tried before but doesn't help. Maybe a physio who specialises in dyspraxia would be able to give you more helpful advice.0 -
c25k did it for me
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Is your heel striking when you run? Sounds like it - there shouldn't be so much impact. Keep your strides short & quick and land on your forefoot directly underneath you. Find a trail or "greenway" type path near you where you can run without worry. Try C25K so you can start off with short runs and build from there.
There are no paths near me. I have a single block long stretch of road to work with that I can run up and down. That is it. Regarding how I land, I sort of don't have much control over that.
Running the same block repetitively does not sound like fun. Are there really no paths/trails you could use?
And you have a lot of control over your running form. It's just a matter of "practicing" it.
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I missed this post:Diagnosed w/ Asperger Syndrome & Dyspraxia. My basic motor control is very spotty and varies depending on the day. Basically, I have to "re-learn" how to move every day because when I go to sleep at night it resets to a random severity. Some days I can run okay, other days I can't safely use stairs. Sounds, lights, and seeing movement throw off my balance as well. Fine with doing things that require generating explosive force and leaving it at that, but for anything requiring more control I choke.
That obviously changes the relevant advice.0 -
I agree that I like indoor running better. Way less stressful on the feet.0
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i can't believe you guys are buying this trollololol's story.
I don't troll on these forums, thanks.
The problem is that the suggestions everyone has suggested do not apply to me. They are very conventional suggestions that have been tried in the past. Facts:
1. I do struggle with basic movements, from walking to running. I'm okay with sprinting and jumping. It is neurological in nature.
2. I would like to try to find a way around this to start running. But the main suggestions people have come up with do not apply to someone with this particular issue. Go to a running store to check stride for shoes? They make you use a treadmill which I cannot safely use. My stride is inconsistent because it stems from very poor basic motor control which stems from overactive senses. Therefore learning to control it is difficult if not impossible because my motor control is directly tied to my senses of hearing, touch, and sight, which vary in hyperactivity by the day.
No trolling, just trying to find "outside the box" suggestions. I have no interest in taking up running long term. I am trying to get up to the point where I can run a 5k for reasons involving experimentation.
I hope you can understand why people are so cynical after you failed to mention this rather significant factors in your initial post. I mean, why complain you cant run when from the sound of things you are having problems walking which is far more debilitating.
This is either a medical issue and you need to get it looked at professionally or its an excuse and you need to follow 'standard' advice.0 -
All I can say is that I am glad that the OP did this thread, given I just bombed a 5k mud run last weekend, partially because I re-injured my back, and partially because I didn’t PROPERLY train for the jogging part of it.
I initially started in January with the C25K program on my phone, and then the weather turned to crap, so I did a lot of elliptical, instead. Learned the muddy way that this is no substitution for actual running.
Not a huge fan of the run, but then, I’ve never really gotten good at it, and am going to try another mud run in November, with the PROPER training under my belt, so I thank all of you runners for your suggestions, because I’m going to be referring back to this thread.
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All I can say is that I am glad that the OP did this thread, given I just bombed a 5k mud run last weekend, partially because I re-injured my back, and partially because I didn’t PROPERLY train for the jogging part of it.
I initially started in January with the C25K program on my phone, and then the weather turned to crap, so I did a lot of elliptical, instead. Learned the muddy way that this is no substitution for actual running.
Not a huge fan of the run, but then, I’ve never really gotten good at it, and am going to try another mud run in November, with the PROPER training under my belt, so I thank all of you runners for your suggestions, because I’m going to be referring back to this thread.
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Those mud runs look fun. What kind of obstacles do they have?0 -
OP, if possible you should edit your first post. A lot of people may respond without reading every post in a long thread. I just happen to catch a post or two above mine.
For others who are here because of the title (not OP), to get better at running you have to run more. A schedule with gradually increasing faster or longer runs with realistic goals helps. A good playlist that covers your entire run is good too.0 -
i can't believe you guys are buying this trollololol's story.
I don't troll on these forums, thanks.
The problem is that the suggestions everyone has suggested do not apply to me. They are very conventional suggestions that have been tried in the past. Facts:
1. I do struggle with basic movements, from walking to running. I'm okay with sprinting and jumping. It is neurological in nature.
2. I would like to try to find a way around this to start running. But the main suggestions people have come up with do not apply to someone with this particular issue. Go to a running store to check stride for shoes? They make you use a treadmill which I cannot safely use. My stride is inconsistent because it stems from very poor basic motor control which stems from overactive senses. Therefore learning to control it is difficult if not impossible because my motor control is directly tied to my senses of hearing, touch, and sight, which vary in hyperactivity by the day.
No trolling, just trying to find "outside the box" suggestions. I have no interest in taking up running long term. I am trying to get up to the point where I can run a 5k for reasons involving experimentation.
I hope you can understand why people are so cynical after you failed to mention this rather significant factors in your initial post. I mean, why complain you cant run when from the sound of things you are having problems walking which is far more debilitating.
This is either a medical issue and you need to get it looked at professionally or its an excuse and you need to follow 'standard' advice.
Currently seeing a neurologist. The main issue we are having is that it varies in severity pretty erratically which makes it difficult to learn to compensate for it, because the "amount" I would have to compensate is constantly changing. It is somehow tied directly to my sensitivity to light and sound, which is also constantly changing. The neuro is not used to working with patients where it changes erratically like this. It is usually more consistent.0 -
OP, if possible you should edit your first post. A lot of people may respond without reading every post in a long thread. I just happen to catch a post or two above mine.
For others who are here because of the title (not OP), to get better at running you have to run more. A schedule with gradually increasing faster or longer runs with realistic goals helps. A good playlist that covers your entire run is good too.
Too late to edit it otherwise I would =(0 -
please explain more about this so-called "experiment" you are trying to perform by running.0
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please explain more about this so-called "experiment" you are trying to perform by running.
i want to see first-hand that endurance gained from doing high intensity, HIIT-type workouts translates directly to improving performance on more moderate intensity, longer duration activity such as running.
EDIT: In essence, I am obviously not a runner. However, I do jump rope. All of the cardio I get comes from short duration/high intensity activity such as jumping rope for high intensity intervals. Does that translate to building up the kind of endurance needed to run a 5k? I've seen evidence saying it does, but I want to see it first hand.0 -
You are just denying and arguing with anything anyone says to help you. If you don't want to run, then don't. Just be jealous of all of us that can go out and run 6 miles then
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You are just denying and arguing with anything anyone says to help you. If you don't want to run, then don't. Just be jealous of all of us that can go out and run 6 miles then
No jealousy, please read above posts on this last page thanks.0 -
please explain more about this so-called "experiment" you are trying to perform by running.
i want to see first-hand that endurance gained from doing high intensity, HIIT-type workouts translates directly to improving performance on more moderate intensity, longer duration activity such as running.
EDIT: In essence, I am obviously not a runner. However, I do jump rope. All of the cardio I get comes from short duration/high intensity activity such as jumping rope for high intensity intervals. Does that translate to building up the kind of endurance needed to run a 5k? I've seen evidence saying it does, but I want to see it first hand.
Ummm okay then. If you want to run, run. If you legitimately can't (or just don't want to), don't run. There has been plenty of advice given thus far.
Good luck.
Seacrest, out.0 -
I have to admit i just started running myself..or JOGGING rather that running. I just take my time, go slow and focus more on my breathing that i do anything else. I have also learned from this post that there is a correct way to land on your feet. WHAT? REALL? I didn't know this. I am sooo going to pay attention the next time I am out. Thanks for all the good advice everyone. I never knew this.
Every little piece of advice helps me. I will be adding all these little tid bits of info in daily. And becasue I do I WILL BE A DAMN RUNNER!!!!!
Have a good day everyone!!0
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