thoughts about the children of overweight parents

laura11248
laura11248 Posts: 49 Member
edited September 21 in Food and Nutrition
OK...so I have been struggling with this one for quite sometime. Do you limit what your kids eat...setting out meals/snacks for them for the day...or do you let them take as they wish?
I guess my struggle comes from my childhood when my parents "closed the kitchen" so to speak and limited my access to food. I think this is why I overeat...never knowing when the kitchen will be open again.

Do you also not bring sweets...cookies...ice cream into the house? Does this make them crave it more? Do they ever learn how to deal with temptation?

Please realize I am not blaming my parents because they struggled with these issues as well...I just want to do right by my kids!
BTW...My oldest daughter(10) has always been a bit on the heigher end of the scale as my youngest(8) has always... up until recently...been within her scale.
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  • RedneckWmn
    RedneckWmn Posts: 3,202 Member
    I will say that I was allowed to pretty much have anything I wanted and whenever. My parents didn't buy much junk food such as sweets and what not. I was always a little overweight as a kid. I think unfortunately you have to find a happy balance in between the two. You don't want to restrict them too much but then again don't let them have anything and everything they Want. I don't have any kids so I really can't say. It's probably a lot easier said then done. I know my niece has access to just about anything she wants but just doesn't care for sweets. She would much rather be eating green beans then a candy bar. But I definitely agree if you cut it off completely it just makes them want it more.
  • jrich1
    jrich1 Posts: 2,408 Member
    Trust me, my wife and I this runs through our head all the time, we try to get them to eat the best we can, but they are kids, they are both very active and currently not overweight. What we do stress is eduction. My 6yo knows what a calorie is and will constantly ask us how many cals is in this or that and if its too many. I dont think a lot of kids understand this, but we decided to make them eat the best they can, buy heathier snacks, but educate them on exercise (mine go to the gym with us and see us exercising several times a week, although they go into a day care which is highly active). I think going forward, them seeing us losing weight and understanding that if you eat you do get fat is the best we can do
  • stormieweather
    stormieweather Posts: 2,549 Member
    We do not close the kitchen.

    We also do not have HFCS, MSG, artificial coloring, flavoring or preservatives. It really limits the amount of 'junk' food my children can get into.

    There is, however, plenty of fruit, raw veggies, milk, cheese, peanut butter, popcorn, hummus, and occasionally, whole grain crackers. I keep juice pops (homemade-just frozen all-natural, no added sugar, juice) and Newman's Fig Newtons, whole grain, for desserts. Once in a while, I'll make cookies or bake a pie or make ice cream. Usually, this is for a special occasion, like a holiday. One thing my family loves is homemade fruit salad with a small organic whipped cream on top. Delish!

    Personally, I don't eat anything my children can't have nor do I serve them anything I should not eat. I simply monitor my calorie intake. My children are all very healthy...good weight, never sick.
  • 4lafz
    4lafz Posts: 1,078 Member
    I do not have kids - but come from the closed kitchen too! My niece does this really well with her kids. Pack the house with lots of healthy alternatives. Get the kids involved with making healthy snacks, cookies, homemade popcicles, sorbets and DINNER! I think the parents job is to teach healthy choices - not be the food police. Hope this helps!
  • Koshie
    Koshie Posts: 61
    I don’t have any children and never will have children but I am not going to be all up on my high horse about how people raise their kids. But I will say this. My Grandmother let me eat whatever I wanted when I was a child. I was rather thin until that summer I went from a 4t to a 6X and I was only 5 yrs old. Since then I struggled with food and why I eat what I do (I am an emotional eater) All I can say is that Your the parent You have to control what they cannot. They have not been taught what healthy food limit is and the consequences of grazing can be. Your child should not have access to the fridge 24 hrs but if you know they need a snack before a certain time (8:30pm) then by all means let them have it. Don’t feel guilty

    I don’t bring sweets that often into our house because I act like a rat and eat them all in one setting. when I do I try to bring in a healthier version of the sweets such as Nana’s chocolaty Chippy Bars. I ate 4.5 bars in three days! But it wasn’t that bad due to the way they were made.

    Please if your daughter is 10 and on the hefty side make sure she is eating the right foods she is at a delicate time and may need the extra calories for growth ect. But by all means don’t be the food Police Just be a parent who wants healthy habits for their kids.
  • kittytrix
    kittytrix Posts: 557 Member
    Wed don't close the kitchen but we do monitor.

    If my kids want a late snack, I make sure it's a bowl of fruit or some cereal.

    We don't keep many sweet in the house and if you do we don't keep them within the children's reach.

    All three of my kids eat healthy foods, but they all have different body types. My two oldest are thin as rails and our youngest is built like a little tank. He's 2 and wears 5-year-old clothes! He doesn't eat any differently from the other two and not any more.

    I personally don't talk about calories to the kids, but I do tell them what is healthier for them and what isn't. They're kids and they're going to want a Happy Meal, but I let them know that's a treat for once in a while and not once a week and definitely not everyday.

    It's for sure a balance.
  • cskalaj
    cskalaj Posts: 94 Member
    A lady I used to babysit for had, what I thought, was a really good approach to handling her kids' eating. They couldn't have anything without asking, but when they did ask, instead of immediately saying "no" she asked them if they were REALLY feeling hungry. (It had to do with a common sense "diet" plan that she was in where they taught you to listen to your body for signs of hunger as opposed to eating when you THOUGHT you were hungry or bored or whatever and to really evaluate what goes into your body.) If they insisted that they really wanted/needed this thing, they could have some, but there were obviously portion limitations. I think it really helped them to start thinking about the things that they ate and it didn't deprive them AND taught them portion control from an early age.
  • I can say that I, in the beginning, did not focus on my kids and what they ate....i pretty much still would go through the mcdonalds drive thru etc allowing them to just eat.....but as a parent, i love my kids....i know how I got where I am today and I do not want my kids to have that same struggle; therefore, I have been more cautious of their food intake....

    No

    I have not taken mcdonalds and candy away; however, I have moderated it.....i allow my kids to eat at mcdonalds once a week and they can have an unhealthy snack, once a week, but for the most of it, my oldest daughter has now been told to work out every day for a few minutes a day....and my 2 year old is very active....lol
  • CFAITH_WARD
    CFAITH_WARD Posts: 281 Member
    I son needs to be outside as much as possible.....I was allowed most anything as a kid but we did have a garden and we ate alot out of it....I wasn't big as a kid i guess I wasn't super skinny either...I think the real difference is video games and the lack of gym for the kids....My son only has gym 2-3 a week and they don't take them outside enough at school...They have to push our kids too much...exercise isn't important to our schools now....They say they are trying to help with the children being overweight by cutting back what they can take to school for parties but they still serve them crap in the school. This is a major pet pev of mine...I am willing to pay more for them offer healthy food. I pack my son luch as often as possble but it is hard sometimes.
  • simona1972
    simona1972 Posts: 355 Member
    My nieces and my nephew live with me. I do the grocery shopping and share the cooking with their mom/dad. I make sure the fridge is always stocked with fresh fruits and veggies that they like. My nephew loves apricot and strawberries and string cheese. All good stuff.

    I do buy "treats" like granola bars and every once in a while I'll buy chips or cookies. I try not to do it every week because I dont want that to be a regular part of their diets. Plus, it's expensive.

    We dont have a locked kitchen policy in my home - my mom let us eat whatever whenever we wanted. I think as long as I buy healthy foods, they'll be better at making healthier choices.

    Now...that's MY take on it. My brother's is different. He gives them an allowance and they immediately go to the store to buy junk....usually candy, chips and chocolates. This drives me nuts but I tell him, not them. I try to be careful with that because while we didnt have a locked kitchen, I was constantly criticized for eating [I was the only fat one in the family] so I never want them to feel self concious about food or eating.
  • h_eloise86
    h_eloise86 Posts: 124
    I think this is difficult. I grew up in a house with a very restricted kitchen. There were no snacks. There was breakfast, lunch, and dinner. If we didn't like it, there were no other options. Twice a month we would go out to a restaurant or fast food. I had to clear my food choices with my mother and she set a limit on soda. We never had soda in the house, unless it was a birthday.
    My problem was that my parents bought themselves treats to eat. My dad always had big bags of chips that he would gorge on in one sitting on the couch. My mother would sneak a bag of candies when she thought me and my sisters were in bed. It made me constantly question why I couldn't eat what they ate. Why was I being "singled out". Because as a child that is how I felt. I think a parent has to not only set a standard for a child but follow it themselves. How can we expect our children to make healthier choices if we do not?

    I now have a son, thank goodness he is only 5 1/2 months. I tell my hubby all the time that he needs to work on his eating habits or we are going to have a problem. I eat pretty well now. My hubby is a junk food junkie. I know I won't tell my son he can never have McDonald's but I don't want him having it everyday (like my hubby would want, lol). It really is finding a medium. If you restrict it could end up with a child going wild at the first chance (I got my first job at a fast food place and went bonkers spending my money on fast food) but if you do not set up rules and help them .... well I just see a future with potential health problems.
  • CoachFoland
    CoachFoland Posts: 564 Member
    I'm sorry, I didn't have time to read all of these responses, so if I'm saying the same things as others...

    I don't like the idea of having "bad" food around children. I also don't like a closed kitchen. Having better food is the key, and I don't think not having sweets around will make a kid (as an adult) go crazy with these foods. Using that mindset, you could apply that to cigarettes/drugs/alcohol, and that just doesn't fly. Children are a product of thier environment. If the parent(s) struggle with weight and food choices, more than likely the kid will too (use abusive parents as an example). If the parents are active, and healthy, the children will feel that that is how a normal family/person should act.
  • Laceylala
    Laceylala Posts: 3,094 Member
    I wasn't overweight until the summer between 7th & 8th grade. I stopped moving around that summer and basically sat on my butt in the house and ate. I've been overweight since.

    In our house my 3 1/2 year old can eat when she wants but she has to have a piece of fruit or a veggie or cheese stick first. She is hungry all the time, but at the same time, she never stops moving. I hope this continues and am making my best efforts to keep her going and setting a good example by going to the gym and going on walks, etc. with her so she see's her parents being physical as well.

    I grew up pretty poor and while my mom did her best to make sure we ate healthy, we were never encouraged to do sports or anything like that because they couldn't afford the cost of it. We ate alot of canned veggies and hamburger helper growing up. It was what we could afford.

    Now I am lucky enough to be able to afford to buy fresh groceries and I am truly thankful for that. It also helps in way that my daughter seems to have a wheat allergy and a mild dairy allergy as well. It helps because I have to pack her lunches and we are limited at home in what kinds of foods we bring in as well. Make it much healthier.

    SO, no locked kitchen. She eats at least one to three snacks after dinner. And I also make sure she eats her dinner...no not eating it and then expect to get a snack later on. To me that is important.
  • bennettv
    bennettv Posts: 152 Member
    We have a child with food allergies so we talk about food all the time. Our kids know the difference between good and "bad" food. We don't have banned food---our terminology is "sometimes" food. There are a lot of foods that are sometimes food. In our pantry healthy food is at their level and sometimes food is high up. We use the ask rule. We don't close the kitchen, but they have to ask if they want something to eat - this helps us monitor and guide them if they aren't making good choices. We only say no if we're making a meal. We keep a drawer full of fruit and there is no limit on the fruit they eat in a day. Be warned, this can get expensive!

    Because of the food allergies we have several teaching aids that we keep around as toys. We got them at teacher stores - things like cards with foods on them and nutrition information on back and felt food that the kids like to put into food groups. These have helped the kids build trading skills. For instance, one of them does not like broccoli. Because he knows his food groups he can trade the brocoli at dinner for carrot sticks. We won't make a separate meal, but if they have the skill to trade within the same food group they can get something out of the fridge / cupboard themselves. Our food groups are a little different. We use Protein, Fruits and Veggies, Carbs, and Sometimes Food. We did this because my son with food allergies is not able to have soy, dairy or gluten. It didn't seem right to have 5 food groups and one completely off limits. Also, it didn't make senese to me that eggs (a protein) are in the dairy group. Our grouping method helps them create well balanced meals for themselves.

    We also watch movies about food with them. They found Food, Inc. very intersting and we had to stop the movie several times to discuss what the movie was talking about. Supersize Me helped explain why we don't eat fast food. Our kids are 4 and 6 - both of them are on the thin side. The older one frequently will say things like, I wish McDonalds would stop using toys to sell junk food. I have to say, those are proud mama moments!

    Good luck!
  • lobster888
    lobster888 Posts: 861 Member
    I don't know if this will help. I always cooked dinner for my family. I always tried to have healthy balanced meals. I had healthy snacks in the house, fruit, cheese, yogurt and nuts etc. I tried to watch my son's intake of sugar and artificial foods because he tended to be a little active. So, we didn't keep alot of junk food in the house. We would have treats - homemade oatmeal cookies, jello with fruit desserts and real ice cream (no sugar added). He could always have his dessert if he eat all his dinner. He is 19 now and is tall and lean - maybe it helped or maybe he was just born that way.... I don't think I would have a locked kitchen policy.. but eating late is not a good habit and my mother wouldn't let us eat after 9:00. But we knew that and if were hungry we eat before that!!!!
  • Laceylala
    Laceylala Posts: 3,094 Member
    We have a child with food allergies so we talk about food all the time. Our kids know the difference between good and "bad" food. We don't have banned food---our terminology is "sometimes" food. There are a lot of foods that are sometimes food. In our pantry healthy food is at their level and sometimes food is high up. We use the ask rule. We don't close the kitchen, but they have to ask if they want something to eat - this helps us monitor and guide them if they aren't making good choices. We only say no if we're making a meal. We keep a drawer full of fruit and there is no limit on the fruit they eat in a day. Be warned, this can get expensive!

    Because of the food allergies we have several teaching aids that we keep around as toys. We got them at teacher stores - things like cards with foods on them and nutrition information on back and felt food that the kids like to put into food groups. These have helped the kids build trading skills. For instance, one of them does not like broccoli. Because he knows his food groups he can trade the brocoli at dinner for carrot sticks. We won't make a separate meal, but if they have the skill to trade within the same food group they can get something out of the fridge / cupboard themselves. Our food groups are a little different. We use Protein, Fruits and Veggies, Carbs, and Sometimes Food. We did this because my son with food allergies is not able to have soy, dairy or gluten. It didn't seem right to have 5 food groups and one completely off limits. Also, it didn't make senese to me that eggs (a protein) are in the dairy group. Our grouping method helps them create well balanced meals for themselves.

    We also watch movies about food with them. They found Food, Inc. very intersting and we had to stop the movie several times to discuss what the movie was talking about. Supersize Me helped explain why we don't eat fast food. Our kids are 4 and 6 - both of them are on the thin side. The older one frequently will say things like, I wish McDonalds would stop using toys to sell junk food. I have to say, those are proud mama moments!

    Good luck!

    I like this idea of sometimes foods! We let our daughter have icecream once a week or so and it is hard to explain to her that she can't have dairy every day...so the sometimes food is a good way to go with that. Simplifies it to their way of thinking.
  • autumn130
    autumn130 Posts: 48
    WOW! There are a lot of interesting points of view on this post.
    I do not have kids...yet, but I was raised in military household. My dad was a marine and my mom an ex-marine. I have ALWAYS struggled with my weight. My mom has had eating disorders but even at her biggest has still been tiny. She is a perfect example showing weight is not always a physical thing... it is also very mental!
    My parents educated me at a very young age and I think that hurt my chances of just making better lifestyle choices. I always thought about what I ate and if I did enough physical activity. That brought on depression because I never felt like i did enough. And it didn't help that my sister was a bean pole... and still is! She can eat whatever she wants and never work out and she looks like a model....with sexy curves.
    Looking back, I wish my parents would have kept certain things from me... like the exact amount of calories in foods and the "quick" diet "fixes".
    Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my parents and I am very well educated on health... I just wish I was able to control it more.
  • recipe4success
    recipe4success Posts: 469 Member
    Actually eggs are grouped in with the Meat and Alternatives group (or Meat and Beans in the USA), not dairy.
  • mamaDaisyJ
    mamaDaisyJ Posts: 395
    My kids get snacks when they ask for em, as long as they ate at mealtime and I'm not cooking when they ask.... I don't require clean plates, but everything should be tasted and ate until full. I do try to offer fruit or celery sticks or something healthy before they ask for sweets, but if they want some candy, thats fine too. Long as they know the healthy stuff is around. My daughter has started stealing my hard boiled eggs as snacks, and I think thats cool.
    My kids are still young enough I think that if I can manage my moderation, they still have a chance to naturally learn control. (If Daddy will stop breaking out the giant hershey's chocolate bar!)
  • jheller
    jheller Posts: 194
    I have two kids - a boy 12 and a girl who is almost 9. Being female and overweight in my family is not unusual. My mom struggled with it all her life, my sister has issues, even my eldest brother is starting to pack on the pounds. On my dad's side, the men seem to be lean and the aunts more pleasantly plump. In the last few years my husband and I have made an effort to limit snacking - especially after dinner. Ice cream is usually saved for a weekend treat and evening snack time usually consists of popcorn, yogurt, fruit, and the like.

    My son was chubby up until last year when he suddenly grew 6 inches and gained no weight. 128 lbs on a boy who is 5.9" instead of 5.5" is a big difference. Now I can't keep his jeans up when before I had to trim 6 inches off the leg because of having to buy sizes for taller boys. My daughter is in the upper range of a healthy weight and is the one I worry about the most especially looking back at my childhood. Wearing a Junior size 14 when I was 12 - not fun. I watch what she snacks on more closely now then my too skinny son. She can eat a good dinner and be wanting a snack 90 minutes later. Its something we are working on. Reminding her she just ate and encouraging her to wait. Sometimes she even forgets to get her snack. I have to say that after dinner snacks is the worse thing I've allowed as a parent.

    But we don't harp on food. I now buy more fruits and vegies, organic snacks and less processed foods. Both my kids are active and they participated in triathlons this summer. We go on family walks, hikes and bike rides. We talk openly about the struggles we both have had with weight and emphasize activity. I hope that we aren't creating issues instead of solving them.
  • k_wills
    k_wills Posts: 82 Member
    Striking the balance of allowing them food when they are hungry...but limiting the choices.
    Think about how emotions play a part in feeding rituals and avoid using food as a reward, celebration... comfort....or punishment.
  • lilmissy2
    lilmissy2 Posts: 595 Member
    Controlling what your kids eat is really tough because obviously they need a certain amount to grow and you don't really have any way of knowing what amount that is.

    I would focus more on behaviours really - limiting tv and computer time and encouraging them to be active, not using food as a reward, not forcing them to finish everything on their plate, encouraging them to only eat when they are hungry, sitting down as a family at the dining table for dinner.

    In terms of nutrition, I think the best thing you can do is make sure you have loads of nutritious food on hand and let them eat in line with their appetite. A healthy child is actually really good at regulating their own food intake - it tends to be the influence of others that changes that!

    This post reminds me of a story one of my uni lecturers (and expert paediatric dietitian) used to tell about a study she was doing where they were assessing (blindly) the diets of children. They found one girl who had such a low calorie and low fat diet that they were concerned for her welfare, looked up the child's name etc to notify the parents, only to discover it was her child!! They then started re-introducing full fat yoghurts etc. Just goes to show how tough it is!
  • mhannan13
    mhannan13 Posts: 53
    I'm eighteen years old and have been overweight since I was four. My mom attributes my 4 y.o. weight gain to the fact that her mother got very sick and died and so she was busy being a good daughter and had to put the good mother (i.e. making meals for me) on the back burner for the time being. I would NEVER blame my mom for my weight gain and would NEVER ask her to put me before my grandmother (who was one hell of a woman) but, now, I always whine to her "You should have strapped me onto a treadmill, measured all my food, banned pizza and ice cream and not allowed me to go to birthday parties! SO MANY GOODY BAGS!!!" As a child, adolescent and teen, being overweight SUCKS. It's hard. You get teased, judged, looked down upon and can never quite be like the other kids. I always complain that my mom didn't deprive me then so I could have been happier now.
    ON THE OTHER HAND- every single time my mom looks over at my plate and says, "Monica, should you really have a third piece of pizza?" I look her dead in the eye and shove the whole thing in my mouth and swallow without chewing. It's part of the rebellious side of me, I guess, but the more she tries to monitor me or keep tabs the more I want to pig out as if saying 'HA! TAKE THAT!' She always says, "You're not hurting me, sister," and deep down I know that, but I guess it hurts when you feel like you're being watched like some kind of mental patient on the verge of losing control. Especially when I was dieting and would, say, workout and save calories so that I could have a scoop of ice cream and then when I finally got that ice cream, all cold and glorious in my little bowl, to have my mom say, "Monica, you're doing so well, do you really need that ice cream?" It drives me nuts!!!! I know she's doing it out of love, but it's still so frustrating. I still have tons of guilt whenever I eat a "bad food", and I think a lot of those type of feelings come from the way my mom always made me feel weak or like a cheater for eating them.
    At the end of the day, I started losing weight because I wanted to. I got fed up with struggling and decided to do it for myself. I know that's cliche but it's true. I think the best thing for any parent to do is to start early and teach your kids to love fruits and veggies and to be active. And if they do get to a point where they need to drop some weight, provide them with as much support and as many tools as you can. Cook healthy meals and buy healthy foods. Sign up for an exercise class together or get them a gym membership and maybe even a nutritionist. Be there to listen and talk to them. Praise them. Notice. I never feel better than when my mom will be looking at me and say "God, you're such a tiny little person!" or "Good choice, Moni." And don't point out when they mess up or chastise them. WE KNOW. Be subtle, "Hey, wanna' play some tennis on Monday evenings?" is a lot better than "You've been sitting on the couch all week!" Don't push them, because they're not gonna' do it until they're ready and it honestly does hurt our feelings.
    As kids, we want to make you proud. If you're there for us, that's the most we can ask for!
  • mhannan13
    mhannan13 Posts: 53
    I'm eighteen years old and have been overweight since I was four. My mom attributes my 4 y.o. weight gain to the fact that her mother got very sick and died and so she was busy being a good daughter and had to put the good mother (i.e. making meals for me) on the back burner for the time being. I would NEVER blame my mom for my weight gain and would NEVER ask her to put me before my grandmother (who was one hell of a woman) but, now, I always whine to her "You should have strapped me onto a treadmill, measured all my food, banned pizza and ice cream and not allowed me to go to birthday parties! SO MANY GOODY BAGS!!!" As a child, adolescent and teen, being overweight SUCKS. It's hard. You get teased, judged, looked down upon and can never quite be like the other kids. I always complain that my mom didn't deprive me then so I could have been happier now.
    ON THE OTHER HAND- every single time my mom looks over at my plate and says, "Monica, should you really have a third piece of pizza?" I look her dead in the eye and shove the whole thing in my mouth and swallow without chewing. It's part of the rebellious side of me, I guess, but the more she tries to monitor me or keep tabs the more I want to pig out as if saying 'HA! TAKE THAT!' She always says, "You're not hurting me, sister," and deep down I know that, but I guess it hurts when you feel like you're being watched like some kind of mental patient on the verge of losing control. Especially when I was dieting and would, say, workout and save calories so that I could have a scoop of ice cream and then when I finally got that ice cream, all cold and glorious in my little bowl, to have my mom say, "Monica, you're doing so well, do you really need that ice cream?" It drives me nuts!!!! I know she's doing it out of love, but it's still so frustrating. I still have tons of guilt whenever I eat a "bad food", and I think a lot of those type of feelings come from the way my mom always made me feel weak or like a cheater for eating them.
    At the end of the day, I started losing weight because I wanted to. I got fed up with struggling and decided to do it for myself. I know that's cliche but it's true. I think the best thing for any parent to do is to start early and teach your kids to love fruits and veggies and to be active. And if they do get to a point where they need to drop some weight, provide them with as much support and as many tools as you can. Cook healthy meals and buy healthy foods. Sign up for an exercise class together or get them a gym membership and maybe even a nutritionist. Be there to listen and talk to them. Praise them. Notice. I never feel better than when my mom will be looking at me and say "God, you're such a tiny little person!" or "Good choice, Moni." And don't point out when they mess up or chastise them. WE KNOW. Be subtle, "Hey, wanna' play some tennis on Monday evenings?" is a lot better than "You've been sitting on the couch all week!" Don't push them, because they're not gonna' do it until they're ready and it honestly does hurt our feelings.
    As kids, we want to make you proud. If you're there for us, that's the most we can ask for!
  • TheMaidOfAstolat
    TheMaidOfAstolat Posts: 3,222 Member
    We do not have a closed kitchen, we keep a limited amount of junk in the house (air popped popcorn, halloween candy-two pieces a week, chips are bought once a month and when they are gone-they are gone, ice cream is natural and a treat once a week), she may have as many veggies as she wants, fruit is not limited unless she goes on a binge of it and could possibly have issues later that day. Dairy is optional (we use soy and nut milks every day) Meat is also optional (her father eats it, I do not), she has a choice between the vegetarian option or the omnivore option. There is no white grain products in the house either, all whole grains and usually in grain form (quinoa, teff, amaranth, millet, brown rice/wild rice, oats). At the moment she is at summer camp and she does eat their food but the processed food is limited and they have the option of milk or water for drinks. At home it's the same, water or milk and juice maybe once a week...no soda unless at a party or outing. We've done away with as much processed foods in the house as possible. She also knows what is healthy and what is not, education is the first line of defense for childhood obesity. While neither me nor her father are over weight we believe that eating properly and excersize are key to being healthy not just maintaining a healthy weight. She's limited to 1-2 hours of tv/video games/movies a day. The rest of the time should be spent outside or playing creative games or reading. It's all about balance otherwise I know she would rebel (same way with attire/friends/ect it's about give and take and how it will work out in the long run, not just the right now).
  • robin52077
    robin52077 Posts: 4,383 Member
    My kids have to ask, but the answer is almost always yes, unless it is almost time for lunch or dinner and I'm making something specific, in which case I will ask them to save their appetite because we are eating together very soon. They're usually satisfied with a couple of nuts or a few sunflower seeds in the meantime, just to feel like they're eating something, but not filling up. Halloween candy usually lasts till next halloween, they're not sweet eaters. My ten year old will ask if he can have some broccoli for a snack, or some peanut butter on crackers. They are both at the low end of the scale for weight, I think one is actually underweight, you can count every rib, but he eats constantly. I think it's just the fact of being ten and never stopping for 2 seconds!:laugh:
    They can pretty much choose anything in the kitchen for a snack because I don't buy much junk. Popcorn and frozen yogurt is about the worst of it.
  • LoveMy4Kids
    LoveMy4Kids Posts: 231
    Funny because I always felt the opposite, I was allowed whatever I wanted whenever I wanted and a lot of times as a child I would eat till I got sick!! I don't know how many times I went to bed feeling sick, all because I over ate. I was thin as a young child, got chunky from ages 8-12 and then thinned out a bit, then got heavy after marriage and kids. Anyways, with my oldest three kids (my youngest is underweight) I have watched what they eat but to a point! If I know they are just saying it because they are bored we will find something to do!

    One summer my second son was 5 and went to his grandmas for a month then to his dads for a month (while I was in college) and gained 15lbs!!!!!!! After that I really had to watch him closer and STRESS to my family that NO he didn't need seconds on dinner every night nor desert every night!

    I don't have a lot of crap food in my house on a regular basis, I try to save chips, cake etc. for treats on special occasions or for a movie night etc. I am also lucky because my kids are not big on sweets at all. But I do have fibre one bars, fruit snacks, cups of fruit etc. for lunches at school and preschool. I also don't allow seconds at meal time UNLESS its veggies or salad etc. OR if I just give them a little bit at first to try and they like it then I'll give them seconds. I always serve veggies on their plate even if I know they don't like them! They eat fruit every day too and I buy the veggie fruit juice, but they drink a lot of water as well! I buy 1% milk too!

    Anyways, I don't go over board and freaky about it, but I try to set SOME good examples!
  • supersarah14
    supersarah14 Posts: 170
    I do not have kids (yet) but here's what I experienced...

    I have ALWAYS been overweight...and I mean always. Ever since I poped out of my mother I've been overweight. Both my mother and father are skinny so are my sisters. I have always been the odd one out or as I liked to think "the fat one in the family photos". Both of my parents were in the military until they retired 5 years ago. They would drop us off at daycare/before school care at 7am and pick us up at 6:30pm. Then we would come home, eat dinner (which was usually hamburger helper or pasta with a side of bread and a canned veggie), then watch TV for an hour or so then go to bed. Then repeat. I remember being 11 years at 125lbs. It was rough.

    We did not have a "closed" kitchen in our house but we sure had a guilt/diet kitchen but only to me...not one of my sisters (my mother even put me on slim fast when I was 10). Every time I ate something I would be told by my father how many times I would have to run around the block to burn it off or I would get the sigh and head shake from my mother. I would get half the serving sizes of my little sister and then would race with my dad to see who could eat faster. I was very confused and very upset with how I looked all through my childhood. Eventually I just got fed up. I didn't even try to eat healthier or figure out what was heathy. My mom just kept getting me quick fix diets...like the green tea patches or nutrisystem or slim fast...or whatever. I hated it. So I came home from school every day and drowned my sorrows in a bag of chips or a tub of icecream...not feeling like I was ever good enough. I love my parents and I know that they would never do anything to intentially harm me but it didn't help me either. I didn't even know veggies or fruits didn't come from a can till I was 16 for crying out loud!!!

    I've decided when I have kids that I will teach them at an early age that not all foods are off limits but some foods should only be eaten in moderation (i.e. mcdonalds, mac and cheese, hot dogs, chips, cookies...etc). I will extremely limit the amount of processed food I'll have in the house and I will not treat food as rewards for doing something good.
  • leavinglasvegas
    leavinglasvegas Posts: 1,495
    I'm in a hurry so I can't read all of the posts, but I really needed to say what I was thinking before I left the house,:laugh:

    I was raised in an unrestricted house. A European background, meaning everything was centered around food and saying no was disrespectful. Vegetables came in cans, if there were any beside potatoes. Fruit would be fresh and "snacks" had no limits. All three of my siblings were severely obese by age 12 and I was anorexic.

    What that has taught me, is education is the key. In recovery, the parents are urged not to control food. But to make sure healthy- not low cal/low fat/diet- foods are available. Take part in meal planning and sharing as a family. Not to fuss over calories because if you are offering whole foods, calories are automatically low. It was quite interesting how out of 20 of us anorexics/bulemics, all of us learned "dieting" from our parents. But not one of us were ever taught that food is for nourishment more than enjoyment or discipline. (Quick note, not all 20 patients were underweight either. Several were obese all their lives.)

    What I do with my daughter is a combonation of what I learned in recovery and Love and Logic parenting. (Great book, BTW)

    ~My kitchen stays stocked with whole foods.
    ~Treats are bought, like chips, soda, ice cream- only once per month. If she wants to eat them all in one day, I let the tummy ache do the teaching. I can tell you this with confidence, we only had that problem once. The lesson was learned and poor choice not repeated.
    ~I do NOT talk about calories and fat, but I do teach her to read the labels. What is the portion size listed? Can you pronounce the ingredients? Do you still want that or would you like an apple?
    ~Meals are served and planned in advance. She has a choice to participate in the planning and preparation. When a meal is served, we sit at the table together, say a word of thanks, and enjoy the meal. I prefer that she not take seconds of one thing untill everything is gone.
    ~I have taught hre that each meal should include a protien, a whole grain, and lots of veggies, one of which should always be green. She sticks to this when away from home and that makes me very proud. However, when visiting grandma, the veggies are often replaced with fruit and she learned on her own why veggies are so vital.
    ~We talk openly about food. She tells me about friends who are dieting (10 years old) or counting calories and she worries about them. We live by a motto around here, "We eat to live, not live to eat." While we spend extra time planning or foods, shopping, and being honest- we spend far less time obsessing. We have our days, but they are few.
    ~I do close the kitchen after dinner, simply because I clean it and that is that. If she wants a snack, I won't say no. But she is expected to leave the kitchen as it was when she went in. What the leads to is, "I'm really not that hungry, just bored" Why? Because she has to think about it and work for it. If she really is hungry, she will do it. But in the beginning, that was more habit than anything because I would let her slide on dinner and have a snack later so she didn't go to bed hungry. But going to bed hungry is a valuble lesson and it only took a few times before she understood why making the choice to participate in planning would be to her benefit.
    ~Lastly, because our kitchen is stocked with whole foods and I do not have set rules about restricting (not many) she has learned to feel the difference in her body. She would prefer a snack of sliced bananas and strawberries with a drizzle of chocolate sauce for dessert and carrots and hummus for a snack, opposed to 100 cal packs or candy.


    OK, I'm running late now.............
  • aippolito1
    aippolito1 Posts: 4,894 Member
    I don't have children yet but this is my story. I was first called fat at 9 and after that was always "chubby" or overweight. We were basically allowed to eat whatever we wanted when we wanted. My mom bought specific "treats" for herself that we were never allowed...or if we were, she would say "only 2 or 3" at a time because she wanted the majority to herself. We got ice cream occasionally and would usually share one half gallon with the other siblings while each parent got their own. We could have seconds and were required to eat everything on our plate. There were vegetables but usually frozen or canned. A lot of meals were carb heavy. If there was something in the fridge that we wanted and it was the last one, we weren't allowed because it was usually Mom's. We were never really encouraged to do sports because my parents couldn't pay for it. My parents struggled with money for most of our lives so the cheap unhealthy foods were usually first to get bought. Mac and cheese, hot dogs, sandwiches, etc.

    At my grandma's house, we were only allowed dessert every couple days and that was the only "sweet" we were allowed that day. We were encouraged to play outside and not watch so much TV. We would hike the woods and explore creeks and also swim a lot at my uncle's house while visiting our grandma.

    Soda was always available in my house and almost every Sunday it was usually frozen pizza (which was bought in excess as it was cheaper) and soda or Velveeta cheese and tortilla chips. We also ate a lot of Banquet frozen meals, chicken pot pies, and burritos growing up.

    I didn't know anything about nutrition until I started doing research on my own when I was 16, had gained 35 lbs from summer to winter and started eating healthier and working out from Shape.com's workouts.

    I plan on teaching my children how to eat healthy but GOOD. A lot of people think healthy foods are gross and I've proven to my boyfriend that's not the case and I plan on showing my children that as well as instilling portion control and intuitive eating: when you're hungry, not when you're bored. Also, I think it's important to let children figure out for themselves the difference in how your body feels with different foods. I liked WannabeaCullen's example of her daughter eating all her allowed treats in one sitting and learning her lesson. In fact, I like her whole approach and will try to do something similar with my kids, and hope my boyfriend, should he be the father, cuts down on his junk food feasting!!
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